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“The United States derives no benefit from its relationship to Israel. That's what The Lobby is all about. If our relationship with Israel made strategic and moral sense there would be no need for an Israel Lobby. We would just behave the way we now behave towards Israel because it would be in our strategic interest and because it would be the morally correct thing to do. It's because unquestioning support for Israel—up to and including genocide— is not in our strategic interest and because it's not the morally correct thing to do that you have this incredibly powerful Lobby that works overtime to push our policy in a pro-Israel Direction.” Mearsheimer on Judge Nap, conceding that our policy is a purely Neocon/Zionist policy, not the policy of a moral, ethical American republic. Treason anyone?
I have never seen such a disastrous, reckless, feckless, stupid and just pure evil "foreign policy" as this incoherent, genocidal mess by Biden admin in all my 56 years as an American.
I think you covered it all there, Meredith. Their total delusion guarantees that they will lose to the rationalists in Moscow and Beijing. However, the same delusion may push them into doing even crazier things that Putin and Xi won't be able to ignore.
Regarding Eisenhower movements... as of 2 days ago it was still in the Red Sea. According to USNI fleet tracker we have 6 flat tops at sea. None of them are even close to spelling relief for the Eisenhower strike group. https://news.usni.org/category/fleet-tracker
AC are we the only ones who realize that if this situation goes kinetic, a few well placed hypersonic missiles will reduce our flat tops to coral reefs at the bottom of the sea? I just can’t believe how incredibly inept these people are showing themselves to be on a daily basis.
The old saying, “Be careful what you wish for…..” do you suppose anyone has asked the obvious question, “What happens if we actually succeed in starting a war?”
I don’t know about anybody else, but it scares the shit outta me.
I just checked and found that the most popular song in 1991 was Bryan Adams was "Everything I do I do for you". That is the era that these fools are stuck in. They live in a bubble where everyone and everything tells them that the US and NATO are still the top dogs. You are not alone in being fecally challenged on this one, SMH
I wonder if Hezbollah has access to Iran’s naval drones and if the West has adequate counter measures. It seems like Israel will be leaning heavily on US carrier groups.
The Cyprus angle is interesting as it shows Israel is worried about its airbases.
The monumental changes coming may not come soon enough to save the Palestinians but we will all owe them a debt of gratitude for their suffering, which is truly changing the world. The fall of the US and Israel will negatively affect a lot of lives in the US, mine included, but it is necessary for a more just world to emerge. If the Palestinians must endure an attempted genocide then how can I lament the likely to be strictly financial losses I will bear?
Will Israel commit suicide by cop by razing Lebanon? Will the US hang them out to dry or follow them into the fires of hell? I’m beginning to think it’s hang them out to dry. As Mearshimer says, nobody supports Israel from a moral standpoint. Without morality there’s little chance for actual bravery, and actual bravery is required to make the sacrifices it will take to make the world safe for Israel’s aggression. They have no prayer beyond nuclear Armageddon, all conventional roads lead to total defeat. Yes they can do some damage and kill a lot of people but the cost will be the total destruction of the holy land.
Israel as a concept is already finished. There is no scenario in which they can regain the air of safety and invincibility. It’s really pathetic how this has panned out over the years, it’s a cautionary tale of morality. Tricking people into condoning genocide can only take you so far. And relying on the US has only ever led to ruin for any country. This will be no different.
Good post. Yes, the tectonic plates are shifting mightily. Who knows what the lay of the land will be when they stop? Agreed about Israel. Whatever happens, it is finished. Their only hope - and to be fair, it was probably only a faint one - was to sit down with all parties and thrash out some kind of fragile modus vivendi. Now, just like Hitler after Kursk, the odds are increasingly stacked against them.
Yup - the Euros need to grow a pair vis à vis the US, and, if imaginable, the US needs to do the same thing in its twisted relationship w Israel. Macgregor underscores what Mearsheimer said on this issue: if our interests and policies (US and Israel) were aligned, there would be no need to artificially-thru money - “construct them,” make them one and the same. He thinks there will be “hell to pay in DC” one day - if the American electorate ever wakes up - I hope he’s right…about the 41:24 mark.
I kindly disagree. If Trump gets elected his relationship with Netanyahu may shift the discussions, direction and focus. Trump still has some sway with the Saudi’s et al.
I see this as the potential positive in the dynamic. I hope Trump is too smart to go that route but I’m not convinced. He may be pro Israel as long as that’s a net positive for the US but his comments so far are ambiguous. He told the MMA fighter that he would end the conflict in Gaza. Does that mean back to slow(er) strangulation or actual liberation? Trump is good at saying just enough in a sensical way to allow you to believe you’re on the same page but his prior actions in support of Israel speak volumes. Ultimately though, all of this “support” we are giving Israel just amounts to rope to hang themselves with. The backing of the US is the kiss of death and none have escaped it. Only our enemies thrive. It would have been better for Israel to lose the wars and integrate themselves into the neighborhood as an equal but now it’s too late. They can no longer claim any moral high ground or that the terrorist leaders of their past were a symptom of the times. They are a racist, outlaw state enabled by the empire and everyone in the world knows it. The populations of the west may fall for the dissembling, twisted logic that allows them to condone the unthinkable but the rest of the world will never see it that way. Might makes right makes sense when you have the might but the moment they lose it...
The Russians are definitely upping the asymmetrical pressure. I wonder if Kirby and Sullivan ever wake up in the middle of the night thinking, "Hey, maybe we shouldn't have droned those two radar stations." As for Hezbollah and the Houthis, I don't share their religious ideology, but you have to give them credit for being the only people on the planet with the cojones to stand up against genocide.
The 74 year old grandparents are hosting their 5 year old grandson as of right now, in prep for the arrival of a new grandson. Posting will likely be affected.
Congratulations!
Félicitations! After the Mearsheimer/Macgregor double whammy, both grandparents deserve a break!
“The United States derives no benefit from its relationship to Israel. That's what The Lobby is all about. If our relationship with Israel made strategic and moral sense there would be no need for an Israel Lobby. We would just behave the way we now behave towards Israel because it would be in our strategic interest and because it would be the morally correct thing to do. It's because unquestioning support for Israel—up to and including genocide— is not in our strategic interest and because it's not the morally correct thing to do that you have this incredibly powerful Lobby that works overtime to push our policy in a pro-Israel Direction.” Mearsheimer on Judge Nap, conceding that our policy is a purely Neocon/Zionist policy, not the policy of a moral, ethical American republic. Treason anyone?
I have never seen such a disastrous, reckless, feckless, stupid and just pure evil "foreign policy" as this incoherent, genocidal mess by Biden admin in all my 56 years as an American.
I think you covered it all there, Meredith. Their total delusion guarantees that they will lose to the rationalists in Moscow and Beijing. However, the same delusion may push them into doing even crazier things that Putin and Xi won't be able to ignore.
Regarding Eisenhower movements... as of 2 days ago it was still in the Red Sea. According to USNI fleet tracker we have 6 flat tops at sea. None of them are even close to spelling relief for the Eisenhower strike group. https://news.usni.org/category/fleet-tracker
That's a dangerous place for the IKE to be if things get hot with Hezbollah and Iran.
AC are we the only ones who realize that if this situation goes kinetic, a few well placed hypersonic missiles will reduce our flat tops to coral reefs at the bottom of the sea? I just can’t believe how incredibly inept these people are showing themselves to be on a daily basis.
The old saying, “Be careful what you wish for…..” do you suppose anyone has asked the obvious question, “What happens if we actually succeed in starting a war?”
I don’t know about anybody else, but it scares the shit outta me.
I just checked and found that the most popular song in 1991 was Bryan Adams was "Everything I do I do for you". That is the era that these fools are stuck in. They live in a bubble where everyone and everything tells them that the US and NATO are still the top dogs. You are not alone in being fecally challenged on this one, SMH
I’m curious about the 1991 connection that prompted you to look this up..
Really just to show how distant in the past these people live in.
I wonder if Hezbollah has access to Iran’s naval drones and if the West has adequate counter measures. It seems like Israel will be leaning heavily on US carrier groups.
The Cyprus angle is interesting as it shows Israel is worried about its airbases.
To answer your first questions: I suspect yes, and I think definitely not. Cyprus will be a great place to hide behind for those flat tops.
UK has airbase on Cyprus. US has separate drone airbase in central part of the country. Both viable options.
IMO Israel’s use of these airbases would only be used for high tailing it out of their own damaged/destroyed bases. Eg protect their aircraft.
The monumental changes coming may not come soon enough to save the Palestinians but we will all owe them a debt of gratitude for their suffering, which is truly changing the world. The fall of the US and Israel will negatively affect a lot of lives in the US, mine included, but it is necessary for a more just world to emerge. If the Palestinians must endure an attempted genocide then how can I lament the likely to be strictly financial losses I will bear?
Will Israel commit suicide by cop by razing Lebanon? Will the US hang them out to dry or follow them into the fires of hell? I’m beginning to think it’s hang them out to dry. As Mearshimer says, nobody supports Israel from a moral standpoint. Without morality there’s little chance for actual bravery, and actual bravery is required to make the sacrifices it will take to make the world safe for Israel’s aggression. They have no prayer beyond nuclear Armageddon, all conventional roads lead to total defeat. Yes they can do some damage and kill a lot of people but the cost will be the total destruction of the holy land.
Israel as a concept is already finished. There is no scenario in which they can regain the air of safety and invincibility. It’s really pathetic how this has panned out over the years, it’s a cautionary tale of morality. Tricking people into condoning genocide can only take you so far. And relying on the US has only ever led to ruin for any country. This will be no different.
Good post. Yes, the tectonic plates are shifting mightily. Who knows what the lay of the land will be when they stop? Agreed about Israel. Whatever happens, it is finished. Their only hope - and to be fair, it was probably only a faint one - was to sit down with all parties and thrash out some kind of fragile modus vivendi. Now, just like Hitler after Kursk, the odds are increasingly stacked against them.
Yup - the Euros need to grow a pair vis à vis the US, and, if imaginable, the US needs to do the same thing in its twisted relationship w Israel. Macgregor underscores what Mearsheimer said on this issue: if our interests and policies (US and Israel) were aligned, there would be no need to artificially-thru money - “construct them,” make them one and the same. He thinks there will be “hell to pay in DC” one day - if the American electorate ever wakes up - I hope he’s right…about the 41:24 mark.
I kindly disagree. If Trump gets elected his relationship with Netanyahu may shift the discussions, direction and focus. Trump still has some sway with the Saudi’s et al.
I'd like to think that, my woollen-clad friend, but Trump has also been receiving large dollops of dollars from Jewish high finance.
Time will tell.
I see this as the potential positive in the dynamic. I hope Trump is too smart to go that route but I’m not convinced. He may be pro Israel as long as that’s a net positive for the US but his comments so far are ambiguous. He told the MMA fighter that he would end the conflict in Gaza. Does that mean back to slow(er) strangulation or actual liberation? Trump is good at saying just enough in a sensical way to allow you to believe you’re on the same page but his prior actions in support of Israel speak volumes. Ultimately though, all of this “support” we are giving Israel just amounts to rope to hang themselves with. The backing of the US is the kiss of death and none have escaped it. Only our enemies thrive. It would have been better for Israel to lose the wars and integrate themselves into the neighborhood as an equal but now it’s too late. They can no longer claim any moral high ground or that the terrorist leaders of their past were a symptom of the times. They are a racist, outlaw state enabled by the empire and everyone in the world knows it. The populations of the west may fall for the dissembling, twisted logic that allows them to condone the unthinkable but the rest of the world will never see it that way. Might makes right makes sense when you have the might but the moment they lose it...
I judge Trump by his actions, not his words. So, no, he's not going to do anything positive to halt this madness.
The Russians are definitely upping the asymmetrical pressure. I wonder if Kirby and Sullivan ever wake up in the middle of the night thinking, "Hey, maybe we shouldn't have droned those two radar stations." As for Hezbollah and the Houthis, I don't share their religious ideology, but you have to give them credit for being the only people on the planet with the cojones to stand up against genocide.