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St's avatar
Aug 16Edited

Russia wins a nuclear war too. Unlike USA where you're on your own, Russia actually has nuclear shelters for it's citizens. Only billionaires and high level govt officials have them in USA. The Russian survivors will be in 10s of millions while USA maybe 1 million. We still have a place in Florida but we bought a place in Brasil one reason was figuring they pose no threat to worlds nuclear powers so it will be safe. If you believe in nuclear winter all bets are off but I think it like climate change modeling. BS.

BTW little trivia - Before he became MOD Shoigu was responsible for building and maintaining the civilian shelters - that's a uniform service and why he has all those metals and uniform despite never being in Army.

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Robert Fausti's avatar

It is all vanity, vanity of vanities, all is vanity, thus saith the Preacher.........

Unless NATO intervenes

Here is the deal.... repeated .....in "ad nauseam".

1. Due a number of factors

This War has never been Ukraine's war to win. It has been Russia's War to lose.

2. The Ukie Offensive in Summer 2023 was their Gettysburg. Just like R.E. Lee and the South. The Ukies no longer have the capacity or capability to push the Russians out in a major way. It is the battle of the Long defeat.

3. The Kursk Offensive is the Ukrainian's Operation "Unternehmen Wacht am Rhein" ...Ardennes Offensive'. Like the Germans, all it did was slow the allies/Russians down for a little while.

You heard it here first.

It is a disgusting slaughter fest. And People like Lindsey Graham are geefuly pouring acid into the wound. His last comments encouraging retired F16 pilots to help the Ukies out is telling...

I guess that year long (or longer) glorious NATO US pilot training program was about as good as those 5 men we trained in Syria for 500 million dollars. You cannot make this stuff up. It is truly sickening.

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johnycomelately's avatar

And yet the gas still runs…

I wonder what would happen if Russia turned off the spigot through Ukraine?

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Mark Wauck's avatar

-- GEROMAN -- time will tell -  -- @GeromanAT

Condottiero writes:

The end result of this Zelensky-Syrsky-Kuleba venture was clear from the start. It is impossible to capture territories with mobile armored groups. A wave of second-echelon reserves must follow them, supporting the assault and consolidating.

As soon as the first FABs started falling on the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the state border line, cutting them off from the invading group, the insidious and brilliantly planned plan by the morons in Kyiv collapsed. And continues to collapse today.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces units that entered were "naked". I mean, they had ammunition and food and fuel for three days. And if they are still robbing stores and collective farm gas stations with food and fuel, then with ammunition everything is really bad. As well as with engineering. Add to this the minute-by-minute equipment burners from the Aida SpN detachment Akhmat and Sudoplatovtsev, everything is not going very well. There is nowhere to hide. Safari.

Zelensky, as they write, does not listen and continues to stubbornly push brigade after brigade into the cauldron, removing them from the front. Just some kind of Kremlin agent. There is no other way to explain it.

12:07 PM · Aug 15, 2024

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Do you suppose Zelensky is responding to two masters i.e. the Anglo-Zionists who pressure him to keep burning through his forces leaving little behind and lots of work for Blackrock when they rebuild the new "Greater Israel" in Central Europe?

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Yancey Ward's avatar

I suspect the Russians are trying to entice the Ukrainians to put troops into the salient to try to hold it. You don't often see an army go create its own cauldron in which to boil.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

That's the argument some are making. In favor of that, you have to believe that the Russians have excellent intelligence on the ground in those areas of Ukraine near the Russian border, with loads of Russian speakers. Hard to see how they'd be taken by surprise.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Will Schryver @imetatronink

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Dec 16, 2023

 I figure, by the end of this war, Russia will have lost, killed in action, about the same number of soldiers the United States lost in Vietnam.

But the result to Russia will be the single most meaningful and decisive strategic military victory since the end of WW2.

Will Schryver @imetatronink

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Russia will comprehensively defeat the Ukrainians — and much more rapidly now.

And then even greater perils will come.

The US won't yield the field without at least incurring a very bloody nose. So significant risk will remain even as the Ukrainians crumble.

Or so I see it.

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Roger Pk's avatar

The so-called leaders of ours never got punched in the nose in their lives! They need a serious bloody nose and a hard kick in the ass, but how will they react? pompous pussies like Lindsey Graham may very well want nukes to cover their humiliation.

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