“These are bad people, these aren't good people. We have fundamentally bad people”.
Scott was referring to high level bureaucrats in the security services, however, it precisely describes the overwhelming problem with ALL federal government agencies. The government selects specifically for bad people in most, if not all, management positions. This process breeds and selects for liars cheats and thieves and moral corruption. Talentless yes-men are cloned and promoted. This inbreeding guarantees a continually diminishing number of honorable and competent people to run our affairs. This is what it is.
Where he loses me is when he suggests that the guys on the stage with Trump were all in on it. He claims that their reaction was, Whoa! He's still alive, how do we let the shooter have another shot?
No. These guys were literally amateurs--DHS personnel who worked ordinary investigations and were suddenly told: Today your security for the FPOTUS, but don't worry because this is a "loose security event". They looked like amateurs because the WERE amateurs. The locals were also amateurs at this. They may have done crowd control and so forth, but not presidential events.
The place to be looking is the SS chain of command, the timing of competing events and so forth. That's where the real facilitation would have occurred. Who decided this would be "loose security," without the see through protective barriers for Trump, etc.? Congress has to make a BIG DEAL about seeing the Op Plan.
The mistakes made by the subs and the locals who were out on the grounds were the amateur mistakes you'd expect from untrained people trying to do a job they were simply thrown into without prep.
The mistakes that went way beyond what you'd expect, that make this look like Epstein 2.0, are planning and command center "mistakes". If you believed Bluto Barr that Epstein hanging himself with his feet on the floor was the result of a "perfect storm of coincidences", then you'll also believe that the attempt on Trump's life was the result of incompetence that can be blamed on the detail personnel.
“I.e., Ritter goes on to explain that the SS SAC in Pittsburgh should have told the people above him: either give men the resources to do the job or I'll shut this rally down.]”
Used to be the great strength of America, known for its common sense, pragmatism, capability and can-do optimism! No more. The flunkies are in charge.
I saw that just before I wen to bed. So the "loose security" didn't have drones, but the would be assassin did? Probably the subs who were swapped in had no training with drones. I'd be willing to be that drones are standard at non-loose security events.
Robert Barnes is naming names. He claims Mike “Fat Ass” Pompeo was telling delegates ahead of the convention that he was going to be the V.P. nominee. The fact that no one assumed Pompeo was ever on Trump’s list of potential running mates suggests he was privy to the plan to (literally) bury Trump just in time to A) throw up an alternative GOP ticket (Barnes fingers Nikki Haley as the would-be presidential nominee) and, as has been surmised here and elsewhere, B) pin the assassination on Iran as a pretext for war (since Iran refused to play its part in the post-October 7 geopolitical drama). It’s wild to be hearing someone as legally careful as Barnes speaking so publicly about this conspiracy.
Re blaming the Iranians: how preposterous an explanation is that? Even Zhou, in his own mealy-mouthed way, was against engaging in a war with Iran, or being drawn into one by the Israelis. The “blame Iran” scenario just doesn’t cut the mustard - it’s too much like “blame Russia” for Hellary’s loss to DJT…
I think your question is, Will the coverup be successful? Ritter makes the argument that this attempted assassination was a panicked reaction, albeit likely to succeed but for Trump's wildly improbably head movement. I agree with Ritter that this looks like a panicked desperate move. If I have to guess, I'd say that it was too much out in the open for a coverup to convince. How that will affect the nation is another question.
I’m curious to know if you knew that the rally was broadcast live by all the MSM networks, something they’ve never done with any prior rallies. Any thoughts on that?
I did not know that. We'd need to know when that decision was made and, of course, when the decisions re the "loose security event" were made. It is rather creepy in the circs.
“These are bad people, these aren't good people. We have fundamentally bad people”.
Scott was referring to high level bureaucrats in the security services, however, it precisely describes the overwhelming problem with ALL federal government agencies. The government selects specifically for bad people in most, if not all, management positions. This process breeds and selects for liars cheats and thieves and moral corruption. Talentless yes-men are cloned and promoted. This inbreeding guarantees a continually diminishing number of honorable and competent people to run our affairs. This is what it is.
I'm very open to Barnes' theory re Iran--reread if necessary:
https://meaninginhistory.substack.com/p/trump-as-the-new-wmd
Where he loses me is when he suggests that the guys on the stage with Trump were all in on it. He claims that their reaction was, Whoa! He's still alive, how do we let the shooter have another shot?
No. These guys were literally amateurs--DHS personnel who worked ordinary investigations and were suddenly told: Today your security for the FPOTUS, but don't worry because this is a "loose security event". They looked like amateurs because the WERE amateurs. The locals were also amateurs at this. They may have done crowd control and so forth, but not presidential events.
The place to be looking is the SS chain of command, the timing of competing events and so forth. That's where the real facilitation would have occurred. Who decided this would be "loose security," without the see through protective barriers for Trump, etc.? Congress has to make a BIG DEAL about seeing the Op Plan.
The mistakes made by the subs and the locals who were out on the grounds were the amateur mistakes you'd expect from untrained people trying to do a job they were simply thrown into without prep.
The mistakes that went way beyond what you'd expect, that make this look like Epstein 2.0, are planning and command center "mistakes". If you believed Bluto Barr that Epstein hanging himself with his feet on the floor was the result of a "perfect storm of coincidences", then you'll also believe that the attempt on Trump's life was the result of incompetence that can be blamed on the detail personnel.
“I.e., Ritter goes on to explain that the SS SAC in Pittsburgh should have told the people above him: either give men the resources to do the job or I'll shut this rally down.]”
Used to be the great strength of America, known for its common sense, pragmatism, capability and can-do optimism! No more. The flunkies are in charge.
Assassin used a drone for recon.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13653541/Trump-gunman-Thomas-Crooks-flew-drone-rally-site-day-attempted-assassination.html
My guess is secret service had zero protection against a drone attack that day, using Ukraine type technology weoponized Dji civilian drones.
I wonder if potus secret service detail has protection against drone attacks?
And they have a buy American policy on drones:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2024/07/16/where-were-the-drones-during-the-trump-assassination-attempt/
I saw that just before I wen to bed. So the "loose security" didn't have drones, but the would be assassin did? Probably the subs who were swapped in had no training with drones. I'd be willing to be that drones are standard at non-loose security events.
Robert Barnes is naming names. He claims Mike “Fat Ass” Pompeo was telling delegates ahead of the convention that he was going to be the V.P. nominee. The fact that no one assumed Pompeo was ever on Trump’s list of potential running mates suggests he was privy to the plan to (literally) bury Trump just in time to A) throw up an alternative GOP ticket (Barnes fingers Nikki Haley as the would-be presidential nominee) and, as has been surmised here and elsewhere, B) pin the assassination on Iran as a pretext for war (since Iran refused to play its part in the post-October 7 geopolitical drama). It’s wild to be hearing someone as legally careful as Barnes speaking so publicly about this conspiracy.
https://www.youtube.com/live/fp4KvbRlD0Q?si=hhieRxqP53eCXpsH
Probably why the news today Pompeo will be chief lobbyist for Nippon steel's acquisition of US steel.
That would seem to be a good sign--that he knows there's no job waiting for him in Trump 2.0. There is hope.
Mind blowing.
How does one un-see Barnes' theory? I'm not sure I want to know this.
Thanks, I've been wanting to hear his views. I see he gets right into my theory re Iran.
Re blaming the Iranians: how preposterous an explanation is that? Even Zhou, in his own mealy-mouthed way, was against engaging in a war with Iran, or being drawn into one by the Israelis. The “blame Iran” scenario just doesn’t cut the mustard - it’s too much like “blame Russia” for Hellary’s loss to DJT…
As I said the other day, it reminds one of the WMD hoax. Another hoax to get us into war. Trump isn't supposed to be alive today, and we'd be at war.
Yes
Not so fat anymore....good ole diet and exercise he says (read his book)
If they did try to Epstein Trump, is it likely to be covered up or was it just too public for that?
Lone gunman, mistakes were made, improve training.
Does that cover it?
You forgot: hire more “diversity”
Oh, and I forgot the mea culpa: I take full responsibility.
That is, of course, "full" only up to the point when you start talking about consequences.
I think your question is, Will the coverup be successful? Ritter makes the argument that this attempted assassination was a panicked reaction, albeit likely to succeed but for Trump's wildly improbably head movement. I agree with Ritter that this looks like a panicked desperate move. If I have to guess, I'd say that it was too much out in the open for a coverup to convince. How that will affect the nation is another question.
I’m curious to know if you knew that the rally was broadcast live by all the MSM networks, something they’ve never done with any prior rallies. Any thoughts on that?
I did not know that. We'd need to know when that decision was made and, of course, when the decisions re the "loose security event" were made. It is rather creepy in the circs.
Barnes suggests it was to send a public message. I dunno.
Just another indicator (of many) that there was malice aforethought.
Don't worry guys the agency that did Crossfire Hurricane is looking into why another agency almost let someone kill Trump. It's going to be fine.