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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Who did it? It's a question that gets much discussed. Somebody to consider that I am not sure has been mentioned yet.......France. Why? Perhaps the action in North Africa and the involvement of Russia via Wagner Group.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Larry Johnson speculates on whodunnit today:

https://sonar21.com/sabotage-killed-prigozhin-who-did-it/

He doesn't suggest foreign actors per se, but others have pointed in that direction. Prigozhin made a lot of enemies and had had his state protections withdrawn after his mutiny.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

I read LJ's article on this subject @TGP this morning. As I said above, lot's of speculation and there are enough characters to point the finger at, but this does not seem a Putin operation. It's just too visible and why do something that would be a spectacle as opposed to quietly to avoid Western propaganda that would paint him as a thug. I suppose in time we'll know. Prigozhin gave me a Jesse Ventura vibe.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Simplicius has a poll on whom did it:

44% - Putin / fsb

36% - mi6/cia

9% - Ukraine

1100 votes so far.

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I was surprised mi6 & Ukraine were not combined. The British and Ukraine seem to do a lot of dirty jobs together.

Cia I don’t think is in the assassination business anymore, the competency / expertise is gone. They are still in the coup and para-military businesses.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Prigozhin took a flight aboard Polonium Airways. Putin hates betrayal. Two people in particular have betrayed him. One is now dead and the other is Zelensky with the Minsk Declarations.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

You mean Tusk, right?

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Of course Tusk wasn't on the plane. That's how we know he was in on the plot, right? You know what I mean? Kaczyński and Duda and Morawiecki are simply stooges. And now the EU wants to sanction Poland. Whose side are you on?

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

From the tenor of your posts, Derek you have a built-in bias against Putin. Most posters here are offering perspectives on Putin, not because they are pro-Putin, but rather in the face of the USA evil empire there is admiration for how he runs his affairs. What world leader do you believe has clean hands and are above ruling with an iron fist and please don’t tell me the Polish. Your historical legacy has plenty of warmongering in it’s past.

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"Putin is solely responsible for shooting down the place in Smolensk"

Sheer idiocy, and even the Polish government report doesn't make such a loony claim. I doubt even your Neocon hero Sikorski would make such a crazy claim.

"Ukraine should be able to join NATO if they so desire, ... Are you denying them the right to self-determination?"

Ukraine corruptly decided to enter into an alliance of aggression against Russia. Russia has the right of self defense, which is very different from denying Ukraine self determination. I say "corruptly" because Zelensky ran on a 'peace with Russia' platform--deceiving the Ukrainian people--and then switched and followed the instructions of his Western paymasters to force Russia into a defensive war.

Also, Poland has always been more than happy to deny the right of self determination to neighbors--like Ukraine.

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