As readers will know by now, DoJ has appealed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals to stop Judge Cannon (at the District Court level) from appointing a special master to review the materials seized by the FBI on their raid of President Trump’s residence.
"They’re also claiming there could be harm by sharing it with a special master."
Can't disagree here. I mean gosh, the Special Master might call up the WaPo and leak details about them or leak funny staged pictures of them.
One of the worst aspects of the corruption of our institutions is we used to be able to, as a nation, trust them to be tolerably even handed. That of course created great distrust among progs who trust nothing they can't control. So they corrupted them and made them reliably biased in their favor and now the rest of us can no longer trust them for the foreseeable future. Even were they returned to a relatively nonpartisan nature it would take decades to restore the trust the progs destroyed.
The Left is going to get Trump at any cost before the elections. Doesn't matter what laws and legal niceties are in their way. Too many people just aren't getting where we are at. Do we really believe that the Dems are just going to fold up their tents and go home if some 11th circuit judges stiff them? This is war by other means and the Dems are never going to give up power willingly.
While the media still runs cover for our version of the Gestapo, each escalation against Trump (and now his supporters) shines light on their treachery. Their timeline is short, so a decision has to be made by whoever is running this cabal as to how much risk they are willing to take with their crusade against Trump. The Russian Hoax playbook isn't working this time, particularly with those legal pundits (Dershowitz, Turley, and others) who acquiesced to the possibility of Trump being somehow tied to Putin. Now, these pundits are openly questioning from the beginning the actions of the DOJ/FBI and the leaks to news media. Perhaps the next raids will be conducted on these pundits. We are reaching that point.
I don't think the psychopaths have that level of restraint or nuance. They have their goal and will use any measure to achieve it. They're also coming out of 2 years of Covid tyranny where most Americans rolled up their sleeve and took a jab of spike protein poison without a murmur. Oh, and they know they will get no resistance from the GOP, who are on the same side. Like all fanatics, they will go all the way. The only question now is what kind of resistance they will get from us.
We & DOJ will have an opportunity to see what cloth the 11th Circuit is cut from. Six of the eleven judges came in as Trump admin appointments, so I have my fingers crossed they'd stick to originalism & equal application of the law.
This rage to enforce/bend the law simply "because it's Trump" has worn thin.
“Articles of clothing.” I know Melania is pretty hot—not my type but damn, but seriously DOJ, getting a warrant for a panty raid?
What I don’t understand is this—these guys couldn’t be bothered to take a proper inventory of the items they were seizing as they were packing it up and transporting it back to their field office. How can they now claim it will be dangerous for anyone to independently review it? Are they going to be more reckless than y’all were, keep sloppy records or none at all, establish no chain of custody—IANAL here but I would assume there would be problems if a prosecutor tried to introduce into evidence seized items in his possession that weren’t recorded on a receipt at the time of seizure?
How the deep state, the media, and the current president have treated Trump reveals that all the pious talk of Our Democracy™ is a pretext and a lie. For four years, they bent and broke every rule in the book in order to keep the people’s choice from governing. Today, they are breaking every rule to prevent him from becoming president again. This is the very opposite of democracy.
We may soon see if your prediction on an earlier post is proven true; that judges read the news too and see the danger of a politically consumed DOJ/FBI taking unthinkable actions against a former president - and that they could be next. Judge Cannon may be the first example should she defy those that must be obeyed. The Eleventh Circuit should rule wisely.
"They’re also claiming there could be harm by sharing it with a special master."
Can't disagree here. I mean gosh, the Special Master might call up the WaPo and leak details about them or leak funny staged pictures of them.
One of the worst aspects of the corruption of our institutions is we used to be able to, as a nation, trust them to be tolerably even handed. That of course created great distrust among progs who trust nothing they can't control. So they corrupted them and made them reliably biased in their favor and now the rest of us can no longer trust them for the foreseeable future. Even were they returned to a relatively nonpartisan nature it would take decades to restore the trust the progs destroyed.
The Left is going to get Trump at any cost before the elections. Doesn't matter what laws and legal niceties are in their way. Too many people just aren't getting where we are at. Do we really believe that the Dems are just going to fold up their tents and go home if some 11th circuit judges stiff them? This is war by other means and the Dems are never going to give up power willingly.
The DS certainly hasn’t folded up its tents: Redstate has the abhorrent details:
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/09/09/bombshell-report-dozens-of-trump-allies-raided-or-served-subpoenas-by-fbi-n625209
It's not just the Left.
Interesting what ifs.
While the media still runs cover for our version of the Gestapo, each escalation against Trump (and now his supporters) shines light on their treachery. Their timeline is short, so a decision has to be made by whoever is running this cabal as to how much risk they are willing to take with their crusade against Trump. The Russian Hoax playbook isn't working this time, particularly with those legal pundits (Dershowitz, Turley, and others) who acquiesced to the possibility of Trump being somehow tied to Putin. Now, these pundits are openly questioning from the beginning the actions of the DOJ/FBI and the leaks to news media. Perhaps the next raids will be conducted on these pundits. We are reaching that point.
I don't think the psychopaths have that level of restraint or nuance. They have their goal and will use any measure to achieve it. They're also coming out of 2 years of Covid tyranny where most Americans rolled up their sleeve and took a jab of spike protein poison without a murmur. Oh, and they know they will get no resistance from the GOP, who are on the same side. Like all fanatics, they will go all the way. The only question now is what kind of resistance they will get from us.
We & DOJ will have an opportunity to see what cloth the 11th Circuit is cut from. Six of the eleven judges came in as Trump admin appointments, so I have my fingers crossed they'd stick to originalism & equal application of the law.
This rage to enforce/bend the law simply "because it's Trump" has worn thin.
“Articles of clothing.” I know Melania is pretty hot—not my type but damn, but seriously DOJ, getting a warrant for a panty raid?
What I don’t understand is this—these guys couldn’t be bothered to take a proper inventory of the items they were seizing as they were packing it up and transporting it back to their field office. How can they now claim it will be dangerous for anyone to independently review it? Are they going to be more reckless than y’all were, keep sloppy records or none at all, establish no chain of custody—IANAL here but I would assume there would be problems if a prosecutor tried to introduce into evidence seized items in his possession that weren’t recorded on a receipt at the time of seizure?
The FBI thugs and their DOJ masters operate from the premise their actions cannot and should not be questioned. Or so it appears.
I get that, but I’m also old enough when they at least used to go through the motions.
https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/08/for-the-deep-state-trump-was-never-president/
How the deep state, the media, and the current president have treated Trump reveals that all the pious talk of Our Democracy™ is a pretext and a lie. For four years, they bent and broke every rule in the book in order to keep the people’s choice from governing. Today, they are breaking every rule to prevent him from becoming president again. This is the very opposite of democracy.
We may soon see if your prediction on an earlier post is proven true; that judges read the news too and see the danger of a politically consumed DOJ/FBI taking unthinkable actions against a former president - and that they could be next. Judge Cannon may be the first example should she defy those that must be obeyed. The Eleventh Circuit should rule wisely.
We live in dangerous times.
Exactly. Special Trump standard--but you sure don't want precedent for that going forward. Judges should slap this down.
"It is a very very dangerous game that could easily destroy the country."
Which is why the Republicans don't respond in kind.
And to think that I had attributed their near universal silence to cowardice, complicity, and battered wife syndrome.