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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

If they successfully steal another election they’ll continue not to have to give a damn what any of think.

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Steghorn21's avatar

They will definitely try, and I sure that as we speak, they are honing their cheat tactics. However, I don't think it would work a second time. As Mark says, there are at least some signs that Americans are waking up.

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NedZeppelin's avatar

When some say they can’t possibly print that many ballots, I say who will stop them. PA where I live there is no DA who will stop them. They will be blatant and in our faces about it, empowered by the lack of civil reaction to the last election in PA. Stole it big time. Philadelphia, Delaware County, Pittsburgh. Without prosecutors, there is nothing stopping them.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

It’s called “refusing to partner “ now.

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Jo1950's avatar

My exact thought. Why not do it again? Criminals justify their acts all the time.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Agreed. Why would they suddenly come over all honest?

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SMH's avatar

Just listened to Tucker’s interview with Doug Macgregor, wow, pretty depressing stuff.

Macgregor seems to think we are on a one way street to regional war which will necessarily expand because of various other interests and alliances, spoken and unspoken. One question that Tucker asked was whether anyone in DC was currently attempting to develop other alternatives and strategies in the ME and he said, “Yes, but none of those people are in positions of power or have any sway with policy makers”. This is not looking good and Macgregor constantly alludes to the fact that no one is “thinking” through anything, they are simply “emoting”. Again, Wow.

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Steghorn21's avatar

McGregor is right. The neocons are still firmly in control. They want to reassert US hegemony and failed miserably in Afghanistan and Ukraine. Now they have another chance to do so.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Maybe the Necon's which includes the US armed forces and allies need to be "swatted" pretty good to learn a lesson. We will suffer some serious losses but seems the only way we'll learn.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Agreed. So many of us today - normies and neocons - live in a bubble of delusion and unreality. Only a firm dose of hardship has any chance of bring us back to reality.

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Steghorn21's avatar

There you go again, Castelleto, with the logical vibes, man! These people are not rational.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

You just identified their plan. When all is said and done the fact remains the issue with Gaza is about money and scarce resources of which lie in massive amounts off the Gazan coast. I believe this is a big reason why we have sent this Naval show of force off the coast line. Neither Israeli's nor the US neocons and their City of London handlers will allow the Palestinians any part of the massive profits that will be extracted while they justify further the destruction of Syria and raping them of their oil. Our military guards the oil fields while the powers that be extract the profit while leaving the Syrians further impoverished and mired in the neocons favorite action....chaos, which enables wealth for them. They are intent on committing our suicide for us. This is how I think of the efforts by neocons, the Democratic party and their small, but powerful leftists who George Soros pays to create chaos everywhere. How do you square the fact that Soros is funding many of the anti-Israel protests? There is something very odd about this Hamas raid that doesn't align with reports coming out from various sources including Israeli's themselves.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

I didn't say he was however; the neocon goals, while not exactly aligned with Soros and all his evil ideologies, they are not far apart and they enable his destruction and then feast on the chaos. Intervention and empire building for whom? Ask yourself who benefits? It certainly is not the constitutional Republic of the United States for which it stands, life, liberty and the pursuit of every "citizen's" happiness. There is a lot packed into my comment beyond Soros. The disinformation and propaganda is creating hysteria while it covers up the what's really happening and why.

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DJL's avatar

Caught this article at Zero Hedge by Tyler Durden: EV Skeptic Toyota Chairman Says People Are 'Finally' Waking Up to Reality of Electric Vehicles.

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/ev-skeptic-toyota-chairman-says-people-are-finally-waking-reality-electric-vehicles

Corporate officers are beginning to see the writing on the wall. Seems like the only way they'll stay onboard is if the government keeps the gravy train moving by shoveling them more cash to keep building their super-expensive duds. But if the reporting is accurate, those automotive companies that got onboard the anticipated EV bonanza are taking it in the shorts. Outside of major metropolitan areas, there is no demand for these lemons.

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Mrhandy's avatar

I wish I could have a job like those "smart" CEOs and make these brilliant decisions.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Buy some stock in Ford. Become a stakeholder owner that way!

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Steghorn21's avatar

Yep. Just like two decades ago many of us said that you can't fuel a modern economy with solar panels and wind panels. Now many CEOs and "thought leaders" are admitting that we were right.

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Retired FL LEO's avatar

The people that work the industry know. Wife’s best friend is an electrical engineer who works the “long lines” grid. She travels the country helping correct and refine on the technical side. An otherwise pretty liberal thinker, has preached for decades that solar and windmills are even close to producing what we need and probably never will. But who is she to tell them their fantasy won’t work.

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I'd make practical, common sense decisions that truly benefit consumers if some vehicle manufacturer wd pay me even a fraction of what those CEOs get. Lol!

Tom Luongo reposts good stuff about the travesty of the CAFE standards that have ruined or eliminated many popular cars & trucks. Trump promises us elimination of all those stupid rules & freedom of choice over what vehicles we buy in many of his campaign speeches. My vote goes to the "promises made, promises kept" guy.

Kinda hot on this topic right now - just spent two wks driving a rental BMW X3 while my 2011 RAV4 is at the body shop. Hoping it's declared totaled - plastic vehicles suck! The electronics in the BMW were ridiculous. Uncountable potential points of failure (once you figure out how to make it drive) that wd require a computer scientist instead of a mechanic to fix!

Anyway, spending the weekend cleaning up the neglected '03 Chevy truck. No bells & whistles, manual windows & a REAL key to put in the ignition once you use it to unlock the door. Whatever I replace the RAV with will have a real key too, more steel & far less plastic.

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Shy Boy's avatar

Regarding the false-flag theory about 10/7, Swiss Policy Research Institute has a concise and well-sourced summary of Israel's relationship with Hamas: https://swprs.org/why-israel-created-hamas/

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SMH's avatar

And Blutto Barr keeps on digging the hole deeper and deeper!! Pardon my French, but WTF is with Barr? Does he really believe that anyone gives a crap what he thinks? Does he really believe that he discharged his duties as AG in an honorable and upstanding manner to the end that he is qualified to pass judgement on his former boss. As my father used to say, Bill Barr wouldn’t make a pimple on a good man’s ass. My apologies to the ladies on the site, but I am sick and tired of this jack wagon running his mouth and acting like he is a paragon of virtue. I took a pole and it was unanimous, everyone thinks that he needs to sit down and STFU!

Never a spare lightning bolt around when you need one.

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NedZeppelin's avatar

Barr has been assigned this duty by his masters. He is not doing doing it on his own. His masters don’t take no for an answer, and like the Mob, you can’t get out.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Makes sense but, of course, doesn't absolve him.

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Amanda R's avatar

Pimple on a good man's ass! LOL!

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

And Los Angeles county is requiring masks in nursing and rehab homes, sigh, if a covid outbreak.

And are still clueless on Covid treatments. I feel sorry for the infected patients. No hcq, vitamin d, ivermectin, etc. pharmacy is out of official treatments.

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Earlier today I was in a coffeehouse restaurant where people linger. While there I saw two young women come in wearing masks. I wanted to ask, is this a new fashion statement or are you genuinely afraid? In truth I didn’t care. I can understand older people living in fear but not young folks. As I was leaving a group of geezers like me were sitting drinking their beverages of choice when one remarked, hey did you hear Fauci got Covid? Another said I hope they put him on a respirator, he deserves it. I stepped back in caught the guys eye and gave him a thumbs up. Got one back along with a big smile.

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Steghorn21's avatar

There are few masks here at present, Thank God. However, all the ones wearing them are young beta men.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Strictly anecdotal, but it does seem like this is a heavily younger woman thing. Not exclusively, but heavily.

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Dave's avatar

Saw a guy at the grocery store yesterday wearing a mask. He also had a t-shirt on over* his jacket that read, "Covid is BS, but my cancer is real."

:0)

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Steghorn21's avatar

I think we can collate all this data under a collective noun: idiots

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

It's definitely social pressure for sure. Women run in circles with other female groups and the "group think" tends to win out; hence going against the group think less you become an outcast. Women in general are more aligned to be followers than leaders. Realize it's a generalization so don't hate on me.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Whatever happened to girl power and I'm a woman, hear me roar? The truly good women are out there just getting on with their lives.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Respect, KLG. I'm married to a similar woman and have two daughters who refused to kowtow either.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

I wonder what legal recourse there is for a mask mandate?

Florida at least has Jeff Childers.

My view it’s elder abuse.

Easy tort.

Trick is finding a lawyer.

I wonder if the la county health official is covered by sovereign immunity?

Nursing home is just following orders.

People voluntarily wearing masks - their choice.

Mandating mask wearing is just elder and child abuse.

I wonder if I should get a T-shirt done:

“ mask wearing is elder and child abuse”

Any suggestions on the legal angle / resources are appreciated.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Love Childers substacks daily. Yes the trick is finding a lawyer that is willing to standup and be counted/go against the grain and willing to take risks.

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Steghorn21's avatar

The "recourse" is when people refuse to wear them. There is nothing they can do about it.

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ML's avatar

Remember those drive-thru pcr’s at CVS? Why don’t they try drive-thru’s with hcq, ivermectin, vit D etc.? Oops!

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ML's avatar

…but I guess CVS is busy just trying to survive:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12682951/shoplifting-crisis-CVS-replaces-stock-photographs.html

Take a picture, it’ll last longer…

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Nice frames too!

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ML's avatar

Yes!

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twingirls49's avatar

When you get a chance read this article from Dr Robert Malone. His research team discovered mRNA and fought the "jabs" relentlessly. He's not only brilliant he's honest.

The White House is Controlled by the Medical-Industrial Complex

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/the-white-house-is-controlled-by?r=983zt&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Follow the money, sigh.

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SMH's avatar

Started following Malone during the “scamdemic” when I found out that he was the one who developed the technology and was not happy about how his work was utilized. He has contacts all over the world and helps wade through all the propaganda that is being printed faster than inflated US dollars. Oh, and his Friday and Sunday funnies are always a treat.

Highly recommend as being trustworthy and worth your time.

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Tamsin's avatar

I do not trust anyone farther than I can throw them. Thus, I don't trust Malone. Looks to be about 150lbs?

I allow myself more trust for the people who have been sharing their thoughts in their writing for many years prior to the covid scam, or people whose writing is in my domain of knowledge.

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Lyon's avatar

I recommend this piece because it lays out how to take out the NeoCons.

https://new.thecradle.co/articles/iran-russia-set-a-western-trap-in-palestine

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

pretty much what I mentioned in a previous post. Pepe should at least give me a credit.

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WayneRH's avatar

G'day Lyon, I've heard Pepe Escobar referenced, here and elsewhere. Generally suggested his posting be taken with a grain of salt, so to speak. I found this article pretty compelling and the concerns possible. Some info, such as the numbers of the Western Derivatives market, etc. may be exacerbated, however the outcome referenced would be severe if not devastating. Even execution of some of these threats are very concerning to me. Where are you regarding Pepe's prospective(s) described in this article? Best Regards, (WrH)

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Steghorn21's avatar

I like to read Pepe when I feel down and the Deep State seems to be winning. However, he does indeed need to be taken with a pinch of salt. He's a deep leftist and big China fanboy. However, he often gets a lot of things right about BRICS.

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Thanks S'21. I appreciate the counsel - so many 'reporters' means so many opportunities for error. I get it, humans have biases and make mistakes so finding those who are 'honest', knowing their basic bias helps me qualify their reports. Hope your weekend was a good one! (WrH)

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Lyon's avatar

I think the 'World Island' is going in for the kill on the EUSSR/USSA NeoCon Club before the next election.

They want the Mafia running the West gone and see this as their opportunity to do it.

There's going to be a Great Reset, just not Klaus Schnob's

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Tnx Lyon. It may be blood that flushes the socialist out of the Western Civ of today. A consequence not considered by the perps of ruining our election trustworthiness I fear. Best Regards Sir. (WrH)

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WayneRH's avatar

G'afternoon Mark and all your MIH followers! Happy Weekend - celebrate what we can, while we can...

I wonder if the diversion-aspect of information being allowed to fall to we minions includes covering not only for war failure (Afghanistan, Ukraine [kenetic AND financial]) but the absolute debacle of the US Economy. It appears the 'Anything related to Trump must be reversed' behavior of Biden et al (since ol' Joe doesn't have the intellect -nor ever did- for running this country a'tall) included financial and world-security wise Trump-stuff. Judging from the extreme tyrannically behavior (from law-fare to phony insurrection's on-going promotion, etc.) ANYTHING Trump-related appears to have no bounds of resistance and/or elimination to include tossing our Constitution totally out. These thoughts remind me of something I just can not fathom - how does almost 1/2 the electorate even admit to being a democrat? Granted, I resist calling myself a Republican Party member - but in spite of the Federal uni-party repubs represent a much better choice, particularly locally. Alas, the human condition doesn't need reason to be debased. Best regards to you and all your readers sir! (WrH)

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Steghorn21's avatar

Read that too. It could have been any Deep State shill speaking. Oh, well. It was good for a few days.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I did write that. And I am disappointed. However, it remains that Speaker Kev fell because he tried to ram through a Ukraine/Israel/Taiwan package, or was preparing to do so. Johnson's first action was to state that there would not be any package deal--separate votes.

Let me be clear--Johnson has been excellent on social issues, but that doesn't ipso facto make my guy. If the Trump years taught me anything, it's to trust no DC critters. Johnson's support for Neocon genocide is a big deal to me. Even if he believes the stupid things you quote him saying, stupidity isn't an excuse at this level.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Cass, there is a reason why this guy got overwhelming support, he's a fully paid up member of the MIC and big pharma. He suffers from archaic cold war views that plays right into the neocons sobbing over Israel and the allocation of more money for Ukraine as our politicians are not yet done stuffing their pockets with cash from the swine trough. He soothes the panic among the Evangelicals who back Israel reflexively and he gives the appearance of a steady hand at the wheel. This is all theater and not a thing has changed except for McCarthy's extreme duplicity.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Yep. The Q brigade were all saying that the patriots strong-armed the RINOs into voting for him. In reality, they were all happy to vote for a squish.

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Tamsin's avatar

No heroes. Take no prisoners? Take no heroes!

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T. Paine Redux's avatar

Not everyone in it though. Believe me, I know 😉

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SMH's avatar

Funny how that is always the case.

Probably just coincidence. I’m sure that it doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that the policies were

ill advised, shortsighted and detrimental to the health and well-being of the country from the outset.

Major eye roll!!

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Steghorn21's avatar

Especially for forever wars. If you push for another useless war, you and your kids head for the front line.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Aka accountable.

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Tamsin's avatar

Less bad for the country as a whole? The subsidiarity principle, but for doing evil -- keep 'em busy at the local level.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Thanks for mentioning that difficult to pronounce but lovely word, Tamsin. Whatever can be done at the lower level shouldn't be done at the higher level. And the lowest level is the individual.

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