"The conversation now turns to the Jewish Nationalist war on Russia..."
That's a very valuable term that I have not seen used before. Most Americans are unaware of the deep animus toward traditional Orthodox Christian Russia, to which Putin's Russia seems largely to have reverted, held by much of the world Jewish community. I saw it brought home forcefully in this statement by President Franklin Roosevelt to Rep. Martin Dies:
"While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer with Russia under Communism than under the Czars. Stalin is a great leader, and although I deplore some of his methods, it is the only way he can safeguard his government." See "FDR tipped pro-Soviet Hand Early." https://www.dcdave.com/article5/070415.htm
Franklin Roosevelt, in contrast to his distant relative, Theodore, was hardly a learned man who arrived at his opinions on his own. He was very much the vessel of a coterie of largely Jewish associates, such as his neighbor Henry Morgenthau, Felix Frankfurter, and the Sulzbergers, who owned The New York Times, as I explain in my article, "Was Franklin Roosevelt a Communist." https://www.dcdave.com/article5/140329.htm
Trump's policy with regard to the war in Ukraine might also be regarded, I think, as just a continuation of the Wolfowitz Doctrine, but as far as Russia is concerned, that's pretty much the same thing as Jewish nationalism manifesting itself, I think. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine
Re the mentality going into the war, Mercouris has often recalled what he called the sense of "euphoria" going into the war at the last Munich Security Conference before the war started. It seems they had gone far beyond the idea of weakening as of 2019 Rand. Then there was Biden going to the Polish border with Ukraine to pronounce that Putin must go. It is reported that at their only meeting while Biden was "president", Biden told Putin that America/NATO would crush Russia. So I think the thinking had gone beyond Rand to regime change and defeat for Russia--depending a bit on how you define defeat.
Great post as usual. Thank you, Mark. A few points:
1) I don't think the Bidenites necessarily believed that Russia could be defeated on the battlefield (although they certainly would have hoped for that). As I recall they actually argued in public that between the war and the Western sanctions on Russia there would be enough popular discontent and political pressure to topple Putin (a la color revolution). I believe getting rid of him, who they saw as their greatest obstacle to control of Russia, was their fervent hope.
2) The great frustration with analyzing Trump's actions (to which you have often recently alluded) is not knowing to what extent he is under the influence of others who hold views opposed to his native inclinations or desires. Or if what he is doing is the "real him." Sadly, given the "Russia, Russia, Russia" hoax we perhaps never will know what his true intentions were toward Russia during that period. I do think the fact that he just had a two hour call with Putin is significant. Putin is no idiot and would not have put up with deception or blather from Trump. Also, the Euros and their press reacted furiously to the meeting. So is Trump perhaps becoming sympathetic to the Russian point of view? Or is he simply looking for an escape hatch and Putin is willing to give it to him? I kind of think both but probably more the second.
"Putin [, being] no idiot ... would ... have put up with [likely not] deception [but quite possibly] blather from Trump" in order to obtain the response that did happen: "the Euros and their press reacted furiously to the meeting"?
Wouldn't that tend to keep Trump and Europe antagonistic towards each other, which at this point might result in Europe wasting its resources on a battle it can't win, and spending time it doesn't have, leading to an ever-improving situation for Russia?
I mean it's not like he can change Trump's personality or preferred approach... one works with what one has...
The West believed that huge battlefield casualties would happen due to superior Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) provided by the West to Ukraine, combined with sanctions would cause a color revolution. The problem is they started believing their own propaganda. The Putin/Trump talking, no matter the results, is significant. The Euros anger at the talks is significant. Their was zero talking in the Biden Administration with Russia. It's easier to demonize the other side when there is no talking.
"The conversation now turns to the Jewish Nationalist war on Russia..."
That's a very valuable term that I have not seen used before. Most Americans are unaware of the deep animus toward traditional Orthodox Christian Russia, to which Putin's Russia seems largely to have reverted, held by much of the world Jewish community. I saw it brought home forcefully in this statement by President Franklin Roosevelt to Rep. Martin Dies:
"While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer with Russia under Communism than under the Czars. Stalin is a great leader, and although I deplore some of his methods, it is the only way he can safeguard his government." See "FDR tipped pro-Soviet Hand Early." https://www.dcdave.com/article5/070415.htm
Franklin Roosevelt, in contrast to his distant relative, Theodore, was hardly a learned man who arrived at his opinions on his own. He was very much the vessel of a coterie of largely Jewish associates, such as his neighbor Henry Morgenthau, Felix Frankfurter, and the Sulzbergers, who owned The New York Times, as I explain in my article, "Was Franklin Roosevelt a Communist." https://www.dcdave.com/article5/140329.htm
Trump's policy with regard to the war in Ukraine might also be regarded, I think, as just a continuation of the Wolfowitz Doctrine, but as far as Russia is concerned, that's pretty much the same thing as Jewish nationalism manifesting itself, I think. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine
James Jeffrey: "He [al-Jolani] NEVER apologized, never apologized."
Did Jeffrey ever apologize?
Years ago Jeffrey spoke often about starving Syria of the funds the nation needed to rebuild, a tactic he was pleased as punch to oversee.
He oversaw the destruction of a nation, of people's homes, lives, future.
The man has no conscience, no moral center.
Makes me ashamed to be American.
. It was always irrational exhuberance
I wrote this post February 2023 --- so more than 2 years ago
copy and pasted
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Biden administration thought
300 billion Russia Central Bank Assets Frozen
Destroy Nordstream destroy 40 % revenue
Sanctions destroy another 30 %
And grossly underestimated high quantity and intensity of Russian artillery warfare
So here we are. Failure of all presumptions.
11:12 AM · Feb 26, 2023
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Re the mentality going into the war, Mercouris has often recalled what he called the sense of "euphoria" going into the war at the last Munich Security Conference before the war started. It seems they had gone far beyond the idea of weakening as of 2019 Rand. Then there was Biden going to the Polish border with Ukraine to pronounce that Putin must go. It is reported that at their only meeting while Biden was "president", Biden told Putin that America/NATO would crush Russia. So I think the thinking had gone beyond Rand to regime change and defeat for Russia--depending a bit on how you define defeat.
Great post as usual. Thank you, Mark. A few points:
1) I don't think the Bidenites necessarily believed that Russia could be defeated on the battlefield (although they certainly would have hoped for that). As I recall they actually argued in public that between the war and the Western sanctions on Russia there would be enough popular discontent and political pressure to topple Putin (a la color revolution). I believe getting rid of him, who they saw as their greatest obstacle to control of Russia, was their fervent hope.
2) The great frustration with analyzing Trump's actions (to which you have often recently alluded) is not knowing to what extent he is under the influence of others who hold views opposed to his native inclinations or desires. Or if what he is doing is the "real him." Sadly, given the "Russia, Russia, Russia" hoax we perhaps never will know what his true intentions were toward Russia during that period. I do think the fact that he just had a two hour call with Putin is significant. Putin is no idiot and would not have put up with deception or blather from Trump. Also, the Euros and their press reacted furiously to the meeting. So is Trump perhaps becoming sympathetic to the Russian point of view? Or is he simply looking for an escape hatch and Putin is willing to give it to him? I kind of think both but probably more the second.
Do you think it's possible that
"Putin [, being] no idiot ... would ... have put up with [likely not] deception [but quite possibly] blather from Trump" in order to obtain the response that did happen: "the Euros and their press reacted furiously to the meeting"?
Wouldn't that tend to keep Trump and Europe antagonistic towards each other, which at this point might result in Europe wasting its resources on a battle it can't win, and spending time it doesn't have, leading to an ever-improving situation for Russia?
I mean it's not like he can change Trump's personality or preferred approach... one works with what one has...
No, I don't.
Well said.
There are so many liars btw us and the truth that it's impossible to know anything for sure.
The West believed that huge battlefield casualties would happen due to superior Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) provided by the West to Ukraine, combined with sanctions would cause a color revolution. The problem is they started believing their own propaganda. The Putin/Trump talking, no matter the results, is significant. The Euros anger at the talks is significant. Their was zero talking in the Biden Administration with Russia. It's easier to demonize the other side when there is no talking.
I agree that they probably thought the sanctions would be what toppled Putin.
Join the ranks of history on fighting Russia.
Napoleon and Hitler learned the Hard Way.
Before that, the British found out with the Charge of the Light Brigade.
The Light Brigade was even lighter after that one!