The question of what is real or not these days is first in my mind. Submersible imploded with 5 rich men inside is fake I think. Wagner turns on Russia also sounds fake. Just soberly looking at the chances of success of either mission leads to SMDH!!!
US Navy knew that submersible imploded same day it launched. They withheld this information. Why? Never let an opportunity go to waste. The submersible was the top news story on all cable news channels the week of Durham and IRS WB testimonies.
Remember that movie Men In Black, and TLJ goes to the National Inquirer for the real news? This is our world now.
Thinking about this further. Prigozhin just stuffed his troop's futures into a wormhole. No one is going to hire them. Venezuela President just responded affirming Putin support. Chechen's also supporting Putin. Think the new Russia/Africa relationships will support Prigozhin and use of his troops in Africa going forward? Expect others to follow suit and those poor followers have no more "Wagner" future IMO.
I think that's a mistake, but I get that that amounts to exile from Russia. While still being within easy reach of the security services of both country.
To me, this is another indication that Ritter might have been right. If so, this episode is probably far from over--6 hrs. ago:
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
BREAKING:
The Wagner Group has announced that most of the Russian Army units in the Lipetsk region have switched sides and joined the Wagner Group military column heading toward Moscow
That didn't happen. Neither did the ploy (if true) to get Moscow citizens out in support of Wagner work. But it definitely suggests a plan, coming from a foreign actor.
I really cannot work out what Prighozin's motive is/was. Interestingly though an American commentator on GB News channel, who seemed pretty mainstream did say it only made sense by drawing the conclusion that 'The West' was behind it in some way because the counter offensive was going so badly for Ukr.
If you're one of the fools cheering on the internal unrest in Russia please raise your hand.
I want to know who you are ...
Mike Pompeo is an idiot. So is Lindsey Graham. They have a right to their opinions but attempting to execute them as policy should earn them a permanent stay in prison -- and in solitary confinement at that.
Again, there are a lot of rumors. Here's an interesting one that, if true, may shed light on how prepared this coup attempt actually was--as Scott Ritter was saying:
Residents of Moscow allegedly began to receive calls from unfamiliar numbers supposedly from PMC "Wagner" - residents are called to "support the Wagnerites and take to the streets," pic.twitter.com/AbJLK963Rx
It was a strategic withdrawal of Wagner from the operation. Wagner was no longer needed in what will now be the endgame of the SMO. So, Prgozhin & Putin put in a little “jazz hands” on what actually was a low drama cessation and withdrawal. The “negotiations” were probably a couple of calls to say hi and chuckle a bit over their little scripted scene to show “solidarity” of the regional players.
That also means that it’s more than likely that what remains of the battlefield in Ukraine is one big trap waiting to be sprung. A very dangerous time.
This tweet will give you Putin's speech, with subtitles. Very tough and direct. However, the "quote" is inaccurate--Putin doesn't ever mention Prigozhin by name.
The question of what is real or not these days is first in my mind. Submersible imploded with 5 rich men inside is fake I think. Wagner turns on Russia also sounds fake. Just soberly looking at the chances of success of either mission leads to SMDH!!!
US Navy knew that submersible imploded same day it launched. They withheld this information. Why? Never let an opportunity go to waste. The submersible was the top news story on all cable news channels the week of Durham and IRS WB testimonies.
Remember that movie Men In Black, and TLJ goes to the National Inquirer for the real news? This is our world now.
Thinking about this further. Prigozhin just stuffed his troop's futures into a wormhole. No one is going to hire them. Venezuela President just responded affirming Putin support. Chechen's also supporting Putin. Think the new Russia/Africa relationships will support Prigozhin and use of his troops in Africa going forward? Expect others to follow suit and those poor followers have no more "Wagner" future IMO.
Russia's perspective on Ukraine given Prigozhin's stunts... "Never let a serious crisis go to waste". - R. Emanuel
Tells me never give down time to a group of mercenaries.
Kremlin says that Putin has personally promised the safety of Prigozhin when travelling to Belarus - TASS
Easier grasp in Belarus for MI6.
I think that's a mistake, but I get that that amounts to exile from Russia. While still being within easy reach of the security services of both country.
Oh, I fully believe that Prigozhin’s expected lifespan has been shortened considerably with this stunt.
BREAKING: The criminal case against Prigozhin will be dropped and he will move to Belarus, Kremlin says - TASS
He must have had Hunter's law team.
Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe.
Who’s going to taste his food for him?
Just remarkable....perhaps it was simple hubris or maybe Prighozin watched Valkyrie too many times.
Unfortunately for Prigozhin, he likely now faces the same ending as Claus von Stauffenberg....
Meanwhile, speaking of insurrections ...
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/06/more_evidence_the_media_got_the_signal_to_turn_against_biden_.html
The western press will have a field day for awhile.
Oh, they were practically wetting themselves most of today in UK. So many faces with egg on tonight...
I was just reading some of the headlines. Unbelievable.
Interesting background info, including suggestions that again support Ritter:
https://www.indianpunchline.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-russian-oligarch/
To me, this is another indication that Ritter might have been right. If so, this episode is probably far from over--6 hrs. ago:
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
BREAKING:
The Wagner Group has announced that most of the Russian Army units in the Lipetsk region have switched sides and joined the Wagner Group military column heading toward Moscow
That didn't happen. Neither did the ploy (if true) to get Moscow citizens out in support of Wagner work. But it definitely suggests a plan, coming from a foreign actor.
I really cannot work out what Prighozin's motive is/was. Interestingly though an American commentator on GB News channel, who seemed pretty mainstream did say it only made sense by drawing the conclusion that 'The West' was behind it in some way because the counter offensive was going so badly for Ukr.
So I've just read Mark's post on Scott Ritter's theory - I should have started with that.
And the turn back has just been reported on GB News programming.
I've just pointed out a couple of possible examples that point toward a concerted plan behind this, involving foreign powers.
KD rants, and there's some pretty good stuff:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=249118
Russia, Internal This Time
If you're one of the fools cheering on the internal unrest in Russia please raise your hand.
I want to know who you are ...
Mike Pompeo is an idiot. So is Lindsey Graham. They have a right to their opinions but attempting to execute them as policy should earn them a permanent stay in prison -- and in solitary confinement at that.
"Mike Pompeo is an idiot. So is Lindsey Graham."
Really? I'm shocked!
https://www.google.com/search?q=casablanca+i%27m+shocked&oq=casablanca+I%27m+shocked&aqs=chrome.1.69i59j0i512l2j0i22i30l3j0i390i650l2.10495j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:062d03a4,vid:HMIyDf3gBoY
Again, there are a lot of rumors. Here's an interesting one that, if true, may shed light on how prepared this coup attempt actually was--as Scott Ritter was saying:
Residents of Moscow allegedly began to receive calls from unfamiliar numbers supposedly from PMC "Wagner" - residents are called to "support the Wagnerites and take to the streets," pic.twitter.com/AbJLK963Rx
— War Monitor (@WarMonitors) June 24, 2023
It was a strategic withdrawal of Wagner from the operation. Wagner was no longer needed in what will now be the endgame of the SMO. So, Prgozhin & Putin put in a little “jazz hands” on what actually was a low drama cessation and withdrawal. The “negotiations” were probably a couple of calls to say hi and chuckle a bit over their little scripted scene to show “solidarity” of the regional players.
That also means that it’s more than likely that what remains of the battlefield in Ukraine is one big trap waiting to be sprung. A very dangerous time.
But look! Yellowstone River!
I'm skeptical of the "psyop" narrative. Listen to Putin's speech.
This tweet will give you Putin's speech, with subtitles. Very tough and direct. However, the "quote" is inaccurate--Putin doesn't ever mention Prigozhin by name.
https://twitter.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status/1672638693834670087