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G1 Tim's avatar

Why am I not surprised that an Italian navy vessel gallantly escorts the flotilla and executes a 180 maneuver bailing out (elegantly of course) as soon as the shitraelis appear? Of course if it had been a tank it would simply have used its 10 reverse gears and pedal to the metal..ciao bravi!

As for Trump, Bessent, Lutnick and Rubio, give me Groucho, Harpo, Beppo and Zeppo who at least were funny and true pros. What a shtshow!!

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Mike richards's avatar

Heil netanyahu.

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Stephen McIntyre's avatar

Let’s start with the peace plan. That peace plan is not worth the paper. It’s written on , because Israel, if it wants to Will annex Gaza and the West Bank regardless because that’s what they want.

I think it’s evident at this point in Trump presidency that he’s lied to us about these wars all along and the real reason for them. The Ukraine war was designed to try to subjugate Russia and take all their resources.

The same can be said for Iran, we want all of their resources and to subjugate them to our Will.

And then we have to add in the same argument for Venezuela . I have read and heard enough and the argument is we have to take over the resources of these places so that we can pay down or pay off our national debt. There may be a certain amount of truth and all of that because how are we going to pay off the national debt?

The problem that I see is that if we break out in war and one or more places, then the national debt is going to skyrocket because we’re going to have to finance these wars.

The question then becomes who is going to buy that debt certainly won’t be China, India, or certainly not Russia. Western Europe is broke so what does that leave us? Is the reserve going to be the buyer of last resort, we are going to buy our own debt?

I live in Arkansas, which is a very agricultural dependent state . We have a record soybean crop here along with a large rice crop. But because of Trump and his trade policies, the China market is now closed to us. I find it ironic that we have now enabled Argentina to start selling their soybeans to China. Of course you have Brazil who is doing the same thing. Those two countries because of where they are can actually double crop every year. Where is that? Going to leave the United States farmers and their export market?

We have a really interesting Senate race going on here between our incumbent Tom Cotton and this very young woman named Hallie Shoffner who is about 36 years old and is a sixth generation farmer in this state. She is hitting the trail hard on the farm situation and she may make a race of here.

All at all Trump and his trade policies along with his tariffs are hurting this country in a bad way, and it is impacting our export market. We keep looking for enemies that aren’t there.

As far as Israel is concerned, I believe if they start another war with Iran that Iran is going to defeat them and it’s going to be quick we cannot supply enough anti-missile weapons or munitions to stop the destruction of Israel. And I have said this before, but I believe this and that Iran is going to rain down on Israel, a horrific missile barrage that is literally going to flatten the country, then you’re going to have elements of Hamas, certainly Hezbollah and now we find out that Egypt is moving up it’s army to the border ready to go in. Israel literally could cease to exist as a country within the next six months or sooner.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

"That peace plan is not worth the paper"

Nor is it intended to be.

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BRK7_2's avatar

Considering Hamas has roots in US/Israeli proxy terrorism, everything is right on track then to net world hegemony, as we near the completion of the preparatory exercise.

Several ‘how-to” planning documents of explicit disclosure exist, have existed for a long time, if we care to look and can stomach the bluntness of the associated sociopathic minds. All of it traceable to Zion Rock & Roth, self-appointed philanthropic ‘shapers and groomers’ of e v e r y t h i n g contained on this space rock of ours…..and as of late, the universe as well. LOL. Openly flaunting the mental condition.

https://rumble.com/v1rehai-2-tapes-from-1968-revealing-the-plan-for-humanity.html

The New Order of Barbarians (commonly referred to as the Day Tapes) excerpts:

“There was a discussion of terrorism. Terrorism would be used widely in Europe and in other parts of the world. Terrorism at that time was thought would not be necessary in the United States. It could become necessary in the United States if the United States did not move rapidly enough into accepting the system. But at least in the foreseeable future it was not planned. And very benignly on their part. Maybe terrorism would not be required here, but the implication being that it would be indeed used if it was necessary.”

“When the new system takes over people will be expected to sign allegiance to it, indicating that they don’t have any reservations or holding back to the old system. “There just won’t be any room”, he said, “for people who won’t go along. “

“Anyhow, the new system would be brought in, if not by peaceful cooperation, everybody willingly yielding national sovereignty, then by bringing the nation to the brink of nuclear war. And everybody would be so fearful as hysteria is created by the possibility of nuclear war that there would be a strong public outcry to negotiate a public peace and people would willingly give up national sovereignty in order to achieve peace, and thereby this would bring in the New International Political System.”

https://dn720006.ca.archive.org/0/items/new-order-of-barbarians-bookmarked/New%20Order%20of%20Barbarians%20-%20bookmarked.pdf

The “Toronto Protocols” stem from around the same timeframe (1967) and overlay perfectly onto the Day Tapes , though were immediately and forcefully scrubbed from public view - and so was their reporter, S. Monast:

https://ia803400.us.archive.org/29/items/the-toronto-protocols-serge-monast/the-toronto-protocols-serge-monast.pdf

Here is one more, an Ai exercise distilling the content of ‘The Elders of Zion’:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPW1ptSErIs&t=916s&pp=2AGUB5ACAeIHChIIc3Vic3RhY2s%3D

All of it perfectly trackable and stackable.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Netanyahu gives the game away--in Hebrew:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2D8J5UXAAALu4t?format=jpg&name=large

Who thinks Trump doesn't know this?

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Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

- Israel will not occupy or annex the Gaza Strip...

- Israel will not occupy or annex the Gaza Strip.

DD_Geopolitics wrote the above---this is double-speak. The evil intentionality never changes

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Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

Self-correction, below is DD_geopolitics' post which, to me, reads as DOUBLE-SPEAK

"- Israel will not occupy or annex the Gaza Strip...

Under the Trump-Gaza peace deal, Israel will REMAIN within the Gaza Strip, but to a limited security belt."

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Clyde Griffith's avatar

Just learned that Trump's family-of-origin, including young Donald, were adherents to thinking of Norman Vincent Peale.

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Clyde Griffith's avatar

o/t John Helmer w/ Nima Alkhorshid, detail-work on Bibi & Trump at UN & Gaza plan; also, how and why Iranians perceive Witkoff differently from Russia: to Russians, Witkoff is a "bag-man with empty bags" toward whom Russians retain pro-forma politeness. Iranians have bitter experience of Witkoff as a liar, which is how Iranians perceive him. In both venues, Witkoff's utility is Null Set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBosKQABl4U

The conversation is a tour d'force.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

It's not really such a difference. I'm sure the Iranians know that Witkoff lies at Trump's (and his minders') direction, and the Russians also know that Trump lies and Witkoff relays the lies.

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Karl North's avatar

Because the NYT as a flagship journal is the closest representative of establishment thought in the mainstream media, I regard major shifts in its editorial policy such as this as a bellwether, evidence of a factional split occurring in the ruling financial elite itself. To me it indicates that a rising faction has come to regard the use of Israel as a tool of imperial policy as increasingly counterproductive to the furtherance of its long-term interests.

Another example is when the NYT began to publish negative reports on the Ukraine war that contradict the official narrative. These reports mean that a significant faction of the ruling elite has finally written off such foreign policy capers as failures.

However, failed policies are representative of deeply held worldviews not easily surrendered to reason. This creates a political inertia in government and its deep state that will cause it to continue these failed policies for a while.

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Vonu's avatar

I guess I'm being excessively old-fashioned in expecting the traditional convention of using the full name of what is represented by a acronym before using the acronym, such as NYT...

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TomA's avatar

Should Trump proceed to initiate a war somewhere, there will inevitably be a resurgence of antiwar protests around the country. And if the crowds get large enough, and are accompanied by inspiring speeches from many rational cohorts of our population, then that could make a difference. It would send a message that the propaganda campaign is not working and the Zionists within the Federal Government are isolated. Trump is on very thin ice and he will lose MAGA support if body bags start coming home. Most significantly, Trump is a coward at heart and only trash talks a big game. He will buckle if punched in the mouth.

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dissonant1's avatar

They don't even have to be "rational cohorts." 40% of the population (at least) has shown itself to be capable of acting zealously against any positions they are told are bad (whether they are paid to or not) for their perceived partisan benefit. Add to them all of us who ARE rational and anti-war and "Houston, we've had a problem." Could that be part of the NYT's calculation in publicizing these results?

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letterwriter's avatar

Everyone with even the slightest desire for there to be protests should make sure they go, to all of them not just one, and drag your family, friends and neighbors. If you're dating, make it the first date even. There are too many people who think that venting online is magically counted by those who decide how to vote on policy. It is not true.

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Vonu's avatar

Protestors will be designated as threats to national security and they will find themselves in ICE detention until they are deported.

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ML's avatar

Very important, Trump losing Maga support. This NYT poll cuts through all groups, Dems, the young, retired and Repubs. The stance of Net alone and nashing his teeth at the UN was grotesque. I hope, as you say, that protests are next, and not a civil war…

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Trumps maga support is situational, and not blind support.

Ron Unz commented something like, Israeli support in the West may appear powerful, but built on a fragile foundation. Hence the Israeli 8th front.

I did not realize Netanyahu is in his third marriage, just like Trump:

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/what-israel-knows-netanyahus-serial?

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Tamsin's avatar

Ha ha I read that as "Trump's support for MAGA is situational..."

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dissonant1's avatar

Don't tell HIM that, though... he will just deny it.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Which is also true

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Vonu's avatar

Everyone who thinks that the so-called "civil war" was a real civil war would have to have been taught that the CSA tried to overthrow the USA to beleive such a durable fallacy.

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