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Steghorn21's avatar

There are rumours that Trump wants to put US troops back in Bagram airbase in Afghanistan. Maybe these are just that: rumours. However, Trump 2.0 is turning out so crazy that they could also be perfectly true.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russias-formal-recognition-taliban-comes-crucial-time-broader-region

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Some are still in denial:

"both Obama and Trump want America to stop being the world’s policeman"

Actions tell the story.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Yep. I'll file that next to the "Trump doesn't want wars" schtick.

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Stephen McIntyre's avatar

There is never going to be a two-step solution simply because Israel doesn’t want that and they never have. They have paid lip service to this for decades, but they never intend to do so.

Back in 1947 when they were discussing the establishment of the Israeli, the Arabs, and/or Palestinians in the area to get along with the Jews proposed that they all become part of the new state of Israel . That was immediately rejected because the Anglo Zionist Cabal did not want that at all..

It took me a while to understand that Israel is basically in an apartheid state . Wow there are non-Jews that live in Israel they are not citizens of Israel. To be a citizen of Israel you have to be 100% Jewish on both sides of your family.

The economy of Israel is in ruins literally , in the almost 2 years of war in Gaza over 50,000 businesses in Israel have closed. Investment capital has fled. They are literally bankrupting themselves out of existence. Without the United States, they would collapse within a week..

My prediction at this point is that the state of Israel as we know it right now, probably will no longer exist in the foreseeable future. The Houthis are bombing Israel it will, Iran can literally unleash a barrage of 500 missiles at any point and take all of Israel’s nuclear capability out.

Then you have Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Egyptian army just waiting for the opportunity to roll in and finish Israel off and I believe that’s possible.

Trump has all of this absolute bluster, thinking that our military somehow can go into the Middle East and help Israel win a war. We just don’t have the capability or the resources.

Now last night, I see a report where Trump is talking about building a military base in Israel, expanding our overseas bases, that is a catastrophic mistake. I have to wonder if all of these advisors around Trump are living in in the real world they’re living in a fantasy situation. it’s bad enough that we have all these overseas bases in the Middle East that can be taken out or attacked at any point in time by Iran and anyone else with the capabilities they have.

Put a United States military base directly on the front line in a Bullseye puts us irrevocably into the war directly. I don’t see any debate about this.

I hate to say this, but the more I look at it the more it seems Trump is becoming more and more erratic and what he says, and what he does.

His threatening of more tariffs, Particularly against the BRICS nations and others that don’t cave into his bullying are self defeating. we are going to find ourselves increasingly isolated worldwide. New trading blocks are forming and they don’t need the United States.

What Trump is going to end up doing is destroying our economy as it is , push us into a recession. I keep saying Trump has blown all of his goodwill and political capital. The implosion of his presidency increases by the day.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Spot on, Stephen. I always appreciate your comments for their clarity and sagacity. Many of us had a hope - no matter how slight - that Trump 2.0 would actually take on the Deep State. 6 months in and we see that he has taken over the Deep state and adopted all its vilest traits. And yes, Israel will cease to exist in the near to mid-term future. The question as ever is how many of us it will take down with it. I know that Martin Armstrong is not everyone's cup of tea, but I feel that he is right with his prediction that we are heading for a broad, generalised war by 2027 at least.

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Tristam's avatar
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"And yes, Israel will cease to exist in the near to mid-term future."

Don't think so.

-Israel in tripart alliance with Azerbaijan-Turkiye (against Iran)

-US building $billion military bases in Israel

-US building largest embassy ever in Lebanon

-Saudis and Gulfies seduced to "Abraham Accord" with Israel (against Iran), "reforming" Islam to incorporate Zionism in the process

- Syria effectively completely lost to Syrian people

Oh, but keep reciting how Wesley Clark said Pentagon will take down 7 states in 5 years.

Clark is a zionist tool, dunderheads! Why recite that absurd statement as if it's some profound disclosure! That is the zionist way: 'revelation of the method' -- part of psychological warfare.

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Steghorn21's avatar

All those factors might give Israel a breathing space, but they won't change the long term dynamics. Israel has lost its reputation for military supremacy, its economy is in dire straits and support for it in the US is fading over time. Furthermore, its demographic situation is dire. Apart from a million Jews leaving in recent times, it is being out-birthed by its Muslim nations. As Adam Smith said, there's a lot of ruin in a nation, and Israel can stagger along for a while yet. However, its overall future is grim.

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dissonant1's avatar

"Put a United States military base directly on the front line in a Bullseye puts us irrevocably into the war directly. I don’t see any debate about this."

Perhaps that is the idea?

https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/07/08/1500240.html

Well, I suppose they will be called Israeli bases but it will be OUR money and military support that builds and maintains them. Agreed on the tariffs. IMO, a recession is the least of our worries.

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Mike richards's avatar

'Perhaps that is the idea?' I agree - maybe the mayhem of general war is the only coverup mechanism possible for the catastrophic state the West's finances are in. So, how to instigate it without being the 1st to launch is the problem - false flags of sufficient magnitude may not be that easy to pull off. So you just get jerky and erratic, plant ridiculous bases, and hope someone else takes the bait and ruins their legacy.

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Steghorn21's avatar

A recession has an old-world cosy feeling about it. We'll be lucky if it stays at that.

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dissonant1's avatar

I just don't see the impact of religion as being primary on European views toward Israel. First of all, Western Europe has become almost entirely secular, with the partial exception of Italy, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland. Those happen to be the countries that lived through hard times brought about by unreasonable economic demands/extortion by the EU and Germany. They are now bridling under the demand that 5% of their GDP goes to NATO. They like us want their money spent on them, not foreign wars or fantastical threats. Sweden is secular if not Islamic now. The Netherlands is secular if not Islamic now. Could their new citizens have influence on their attitudes toward Israel? Sure!

Aside from that, yeah, it seems that Northern European governments have been compromised more than Southern. But that makes sense, since they have been the center of power economically and politically in Europe for the last 35 years.

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Steghorn21's avatar

As someone living in the heart of Northern Europe I'd say that the level of interest and concern about these events is almost zero. People here are interested in sportball and celebs and little else. I was in the military during the Cold War and back then the level of protest from people here against the threat of nuclear winter was pretty heavy. We had the Greenham Common women, CND and sundry other very active and vocal protest movements. Today, when the threat level is just as great, if not greater? Zilch. Maybe the effects of a 5% of GDP hike in "defence" spending may change attitudes.

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Tristam's avatar

Based on a quick overview, "One Nation" appears to be the largest donor.

It's headed by Mitch McConnell's former chief of staff with "a former Rove deputy" listed as "Dark Money Operative."

https://www.monitoringinfluence.org/org/one-nation/#:~:text=learning%20more%20equitable.-,People,American%20Crossroads%20and%20Crossroads%20GPS.

what could go wrong?

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George's avatar

Okay, but since when has the majority opinion ever mattered? Before World War I, the majority of Americans were against entering the war—same with World War II. The same goes for the Russians regarding the Bolshevik Revolution. Even support for the American War of Independence was murky, to say the least. These surveys mean nothing.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Exactly. Our leaders hold us in contempt. And they are right to.

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Mike richards's avatar

It's very mutual - and we have more right.

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