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K Benn's avatar

Governor DeWine in Ohio signed legislation that allows the Democrat candidate to be on the ballot even if he isn't nominated by the previous August 8 deadline. So that isn't an issue now. In May, Governor DeWine urged Republicans to pass the legislation making the change. They did so. DeWine signed the legislation in June that moved the deadline for getting on the Ohio ballot to the day after the DNC convention ends.

Of course, there are other issues with swapping Biden out but getting on the ballot in Ohio isn't one of them. Biden allies were still trying to get him nominated by August 8 in a virtual "convention" because they want to lock him in as soon as possible.

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K Benn's avatar

We really are in uncharted territory here. If I put on my tinfoil hat, I'd guess that the plan was to assassinate Trump. At that point, the entire state of the race is in chaos and it becomes a LOT easier for the Democrats to swap Biden out. 2 new candidates. Start the race all over.

Fortunately, God seems to have had other plans. Now the Democrats don't know what to do. At least half the party wants Biden gone, thinking he will drag down every Democrat. But the issues with getting rid of him - especially if he doesn't want to go - are legion.

I guess we are living in interesting times, like the old Chinese curse.

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D F Barr's avatar

The ballots have been printed and counted. Done deal. It’s all the land of make believe anymore. I despise the democrat party and their goons.

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Lyon's avatar

The best thing that could happen is for Jill Biden to go rogue and have some FBI Agents raid the homes of all the democrats that have turned on Joe.

Burn it down Jill!

Burn it all down!

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Hopefully good, but some caveats.

It’s a 3 person panel. It can be appealed to a 11 person panel, then Scotus.

I’m don’t know the composition of the 3 person panel. You can tell stances often by who nominated them.

From a timing prospective I think the decision will stand.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

SCOTUS will pass on it

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

David Samuel’s seems to be a classical liberal similar to Matt Taibbi.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Samuels_(writer)

Interesting analysis, but misses how Trump is remaking the Republican Party that should impact his vote amount. JD Vance as vp symbolizes that. Trump is poaching the working class from the Democrats. And may be JD Vance will help with Silicon Valley? And what of Jewish campaign donations?

As a Ca resident, I can’t emphasize enough how I despise Gavin Newsom. He’s been a calamity to Ca.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

So disenfranchise voters is the new norm. Kamala’s supporters will be pissed if power brokers select Gavin. Down ballot ticket impact could be huge. Black voters voices negated. Nancy’s going to age more quickly before our eyes.

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Stephen McIntyre's avatar

While that is an interesting theory on Newsom. You’re leaving out the elephant in the room that is Kamala Harris. Harris is going to expect support for the nomination only because she is a woman and she is the vice president and that cannot be ignored. If she has passed over, then the backlash and the absolute mendacity and the hypocrisy of the Democrat party will be stripped, bare for the world to see.

I can’t believe any reputable candidate, would want to be at the top of the democrat ticket this election cycle, because if they lose and loose badly, then they’re prospects for ever being a presidential nominee again is over. The smart play for the Democrats is to put Harris up and let her run. Concentrate on the downstream elections and just let the top of the ticket go. They just cannot ignore and bypass Kamala Harris.

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ML's avatar

“The smart play for the Democrats is to put Harris up and let her run.” Tell that to Nancy! Another betrayal of one female by another when power is at stake…we’ll see how that works out, as Diss says, “hell hath no fury…” and I’m sure Harris has plenty stored up.

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dissonant1's avatar

We shall see as regards Kamala.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbVn9Xx3YM

Hell hath no fury... unless she negotiates a (no doubt) good deal ahead of time.

To your other point, I think Newsome would go for it. Yes, he probably will not be successful THIS time. But not many expect the Dems to win now, which means that a loss will not hurt him a whole lot but WILL set him up (national name recognition, familiarity, Dem party support) for 2028. If I were him I would probably jump on it (whatever brain damage there is to him aside) - just because it sets him up as the prime candidate for the next election.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Rumor is there are some nsfw pictures of her back in the day with Willie Brown.

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/06/blind-item-8_29.html?m=1

I wonder if that will influence anything?

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Steghorn21's avatar

Blowback?

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Bob C.'s avatar

Lol!!!

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Would Willie Brown ask for NIL funds as a result? Asking for a friend.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Blackmail? Say it isn’t so. Come to think of it isn’t that racist of me? Blackfemaile’. Say it with a French accent.

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dissonant1's avatar

Hmmm. I don't think it would cost her among Democrats, it would probably cost her a little among Reps (who are already largely aware of her relationship with Brown) and would cost her slightly more among Independents). I don't think it would be determinative as far as the election but it might be as far as her personal decision to run.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I'm not leaving it out, I'm just quoting others. I agree--although you don't exactly say this--that this is an obvious double cross of her. I agree that she will be POed. My view is the same as your second paragraph.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I understand why you thought I should've mentioned her, but I've harped on this point so many times since this whole thing blew up ...

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

The democrats have reputable candidates?

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Can i introduce you to the Governor of Maryland. Wes Moore.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Wonder no more.

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K Benn's avatar

Governor DeWine in Ohio signed legislation that allows the Democrat candidate to be on the ballot even if he isn't nominated by the previous August 8 deadline. So that isn't an issue now. But there are a bunch of other issues with swapping Biden out at this late date.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Do me a favor and post your comment on the brand new post.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Good point. And there are a number of other states--GA, WI, NV--that could be problematic. The money problem also remains--the fundraising is governed by campaign finance laws, not Dem party bylaws.

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