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johnycomelately's avatar

Interesting they targeted probably one of the best defended bases in Israel and still managed to get some hits.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

The drones and cruise missiles were just target practice for Israel and the West. This way both Iran and Israel can claim victory.

I’m curious if hypersonic missiles were actually used.

The ship seizure may actually be more important, with the threat to Israel’s economy.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Now the ball's in Netanyahu's court. Does he up the ante and go for broke against Iran? Or does he take the "moral victory" and go back to slaughtering Gazans? Don't forget: this is mostly about Netanyahu staying out of prison.

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Beth Bart's avatar

From Amir Tsfati in Israel

https://t.me/beholdisraelchannel/30616

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Article about U.S. funding of pro Ukraine propaganda.

I noticed most of the same people criticizing Ukraine, have also been accused of anti Semitism.

Not mentioned are:

The Duran

Gonzalo Lira

I guess outside the scope is the U.S. deep state backed Russia, Russia narrative including the censorship by the Internet giants of any so called Russian backed disinformation (anything that questions the narrative of Ukraine winning).

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-helps-pro-ukraine-media-run-fog-machine-war-lee-fang

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Mark Wauck's avatar

For those who ever doubted that it's all tied together.

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D F Barr's avatar

If open borders are good enough for the USA, they should be good enough for our friends the Israelis.

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Bash's avatar

Don't you think Netenyahu will retaliate? The whole point of this goes up in smoke if there is a belief that Israel can be deterred. I mean, they have turned Syria into a pinata for the past 15 years because Al-Asaad is too weak or cowardly to defend his country.

There is almost no upside to Bibi calling it a day. While Biden has done his best to get him to stand down, we all know he is bluffing; and if it goes to another round of tit-for-tat the US will absolutely, without a doubt, participate in Israel's defense.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

One reveal--for those not already convinced--is that Israel is a creature of the US. That's IF/WHEN the US decides to draw a line and assert its own interests. If Netanyahu is forced to stand down, that will be a huge tell that the US is alarmed at where its been led by Israel. As for Syria, it was ganged up on by the US and assorted NATO hyenas. IMO, Assad has done a remarkable job.

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Steghorn21's avatar

If N takes the pretend victory, he will still have to sell it to the increasingly dissatisfied Israeli people.

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ML's avatar

Well, looks like Bibi has done just that, called it a day on striking Iran:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-called-off-retaliatory-strike-on-iran-after-call-with-biden-new-york-times/

See what a little diplomacy can do?!

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Steghorn21's avatar

Bring on the next pandemic!

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D F Barr's avatar

Hypersonic missiles. Who has, and who doesn’t have? I don’t recall the U.S. ever successfully even testing such technology. Let alone proper air defense against such missiles. Short term versus long term thinking. The long term doesn’t bode well for the empire.

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Meredith Hobbs's avatar

That link is to an older report from 2021. Here is the link for USA's 2021-2023 ops:

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/papers/2023/USCounterterrorismOperations

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Steghorn21's avatar

How will they do that? Do think Iran hasn't gamed out that possibility?

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Iran's nuclear facilities are buried beneath mountains--literally--just like much of Hezbollah's infrastructure. Even Hamas' tunnels are indestructible short of nukes. Plus Russia and China have Iran's back. Any more bright ideas?

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ebeast's avatar

Or maybe try diplomacy for a change? The odds of negotiating some framework where Iran and Israel can live in relative peace are long, but surely better than the nigh impossible task you propose.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Waste of space free zone.

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Not an Amercian's avatar

Good one! Off the charts sarcasm.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Biden was never a neocon, that’s a misidentification. Biden uses war mongering for political advantage and he’s a true blue brain dead Dem. Bide’s a John McCain type without the military background. Biden was barely a lawyer like McCain was barely a military man. Neither were accomplished until they found politics suited their malevolent character.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Imagine how peed of Nuland must be right now. No WW3! At least not this week.

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