Bibi's ludicous statements about the history and stauts of Gaza, and similarly about Hamas being murderers and rapists, and about the protests of genocide on US campuses, would actually be hilarious in a way if this were not so lethally real.
Imagine some character actor on Saturday Night Live conjuring such ridiculous, self-serving sophistry. It's right up there with "Springtime for Hitler, and Germany".
I need to pinch myself to realize that I am not in some whimsical daydream and that all of this death and destruction and threat of even worse is really happening. with the support of my country.
From all evidence war with Iran by the U.S. and Israel would be insane. Aside from that it would kill MAGA. I certainly hope that Trump is looking for an agreement with them he can "take credit for" rather than simply being Israel's stooge. I would really love to see Iran's “responsible, generous, and wise offer” publicized so that if it is turned down we will know just how unreasonable the warmongers are.
On a scale "Biden" is a 0 and everything else is a positive number. So it is kind of hard to compute the percentage of relative improvement... lol/crying
I envision 3 rooms in an Oman hotel with connecting rooms where Oman has the middle room with a special speaker to talk to the Iranians on one side and Willy Witkoff of the US on the other side Translations aside of course.
This would be “indirect talks”. How do you say pass the salt in Farsi?
Netanyahu: "Gaza is a closed, besieged place, and we are not the ones besieging it. All we seek is to enable the residents of Gaza to have the option of leaving for other countries.”
Who does BIbi think is besieging Gaza? How gracious of Bibi to “enable” those he bombed out of their homes and survived to leave for other countries. What if they don’t accept that “option”?
Trump should have kicked Bibi to the curb as he did Zelensky for these psychopathic remarks. Why didn’t he?
Is it reasonable to hope that the genius economy re-set Trump may be showing some high skill in global diplomacy with Iran? Iran's nurturing of political alliances who practice conflict instigation against parties that threaten Iran's ability to live, and thrive among the family of nations----isn't that the same identical method of operating by the USA and Israel?
Hello Tristam, and my apology for so long a delay in responding. I re-read Mark's article, and my thoughts were, and still are, that Iran has strengthened itself in current apocolyptic times by nurturing its existing good relationships with Russia and China with additional alliance bonding. The allies might be needed (like "security guards") only to remind aggressors, who seek to ruin Iran, that aggression would be an unwise choice--because of destructive consequences. The USA and Israel have always played the "security guard"/"ally" game; but now the Zionist bullies are confronted with being bullied themselves. Trump surely sees this; and he's very practiced (New York international real estate business owner) at playing "with and against" all parties to the game. I think Trump wants Russia's "friendship" in global affairs (but Not China), and Trump is comfortable creating disorder in order to camoflauge his intended game plan.
Thank you for thoughtful reply. Agree, or at least in sync with your wishes, up to "Trump surely sees this ..." DJT's callous remarks about "Gaza waterfront" tempt me to agree with Mearsheimer that Trump "lacks a moral compass," and that for all that we, at least I, attempt to explain his behavior, what it might be necessary to confront is that he is a sociopath, accomplished only in making NY style complex real estate deals & other ways of manipulating money markets to enrich his gang.
I see what you mean in all regards, and particularly worry about what Trump will choose to do for, or against, the people of Palestine. His speech is ugly as much as it's deadly for leading the Anglo-Zionists to carry on with murdering innocents, as they are---children, mothers, and men whom are non-combatants. Immoral as a king-maker businessman who just wants to "win" the deal he's involved in. I also recall that his daughter rejected her faith in the religion of her parents in order to become Mrs. Kushner. But I cannot put all the moving parts about Donald Trump, the loving and loyal family man, the New York real estate champion, the persecuted anti-some establishment issues' politician, and the human being who needs all the love that he asks for by playing the "lovable media entertainment genius" to every person who self-desribes as one of his MAGA supporters. The man has a big heart simultaneous with being fowl-mouthed and perhaps vengeful. I don't know. I'm continuing to pray that the good human being Trump wins over his ego.
If, God forbid, Bibi orders Don to send in the Goy Brigade, there may well be more opposition than either expects. The idea that the future of our kids is dependent on Bibi’s legal issues is revolting.
No chance the US is going to bomb Iran, all bullshit. B2 is a pile of shite, B52s worse, can't see many air force crews jumping into their cockpits full of patriotism and gusto when they know what they're up against. All this Iran nonsense is cover for the clearing of Gaza, nothing more.
Realistically, trying to penetrate Iranian air space looks really dangerous, so cruise missiles look like the only viable alternative. Given Iran's size and the range of our JASSM cruise missiles (~230 miles), you'd probably need to place launch platforms within range of Iran's AD systems. Tomahawks would probably be launched from the Ohio class sub that's out in the Arabian Sea, because the range limit for T'hawks would probably put surface ships within range of Iranian long range anti-ship missiles. That sub would have ~154 T'hawks max. I'm no expert, but I have seen claims that T'hawks would not fare well against Iran's AD.
Iran has been testing their EW this past week, denial of GPS, etc. I assume Russia would give Iran plenty of advance warning of any attack, at a minimum. You might even have Russian pilots in Iran's Su-35s to do interdiction with fairly long range AAMs--longer range than ours.
Bibi's ludicous statements about the history and stauts of Gaza, and similarly about Hamas being murderers and rapists, and about the protests of genocide on US campuses, would actually be hilarious in a way if this were not so lethally real.
Imagine some character actor on Saturday Night Live conjuring such ridiculous, self-serving sophistry. It's right up there with "Springtime for Hitler, and Germany".
I need to pinch myself to realize that I am not in some whimsical daydream and that all of this death and destruction and threat of even worse is really happening. with the support of my country.
From all evidence war with Iran by the U.S. and Israel would be insane. Aside from that it would kill MAGA. I certainly hope that Trump is looking for an agreement with them he can "take credit for" rather than simply being Israel's stooge. I would really love to see Iran's “responsible, generous, and wise offer” publicized so that if it is turned down we will know just how unreasonable the warmongers are.
But you have to admit this is way better than the Zhou Biden foreign policy approach of appeasement.
On a scale "Biden" is a 0 and everything else is a positive number. So it is kind of hard to compute the percentage of relative improvement... lol/crying
Zero has a higher information content that Biden's cognitive brain so, sorry, you are going to have to rebase to -10..
I envision 3 rooms in an Oman hotel with connecting rooms where Oman has the middle room with a special speaker to talk to the Iranians on one side and Willy Witkoff of the US on the other side Translations aside of course.
This would be “indirect talks”. How do you say pass the salt in Farsi?
They need the Cone of Silence...perhaps two.
As long as they are not using Signal, things should go well!
Well played!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel goes off script and forces Trump’s hand.
They will try.
Netanyahu: "Gaza is a closed, besieged place, and we are not the ones besieging it. All we seek is to enable the residents of Gaza to have the option of leaving for other countries.”
Who does BIbi think is besieging Gaza? How gracious of Bibi to “enable” those he bombed out of their homes and survived to leave for other countries. What if they don’t accept that “option”?
Trump should have kicked Bibi to the curb as he did Zelensky for these psychopathic remarks. Why didn’t he?
Please forgive me for these anti-Semitic remarks.
AIPAC
Hamas
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proposing a diplomatic solution "similar to what was done ... TO ... Libya."
Is it reasonable to hope that the genius economy re-set Trump may be showing some high skill in global diplomacy with Iran? Iran's nurturing of political alliances who practice conflict instigation against parties that threaten Iran's ability to live, and thrive among the family of nations----isn't that the same identical method of operating by the USA and Israel?
Yes. And reasonable too.
Beg your pardon: What point are you making? Sarcasm?
Hello Tristam, and my apology for so long a delay in responding. I re-read Mark's article, and my thoughts were, and still are, that Iran has strengthened itself in current apocolyptic times by nurturing its existing good relationships with Russia and China with additional alliance bonding. The allies might be needed (like "security guards") only to remind aggressors, who seek to ruin Iran, that aggression would be an unwise choice--because of destructive consequences. The USA and Israel have always played the "security guard"/"ally" game; but now the Zionist bullies are confronted with being bullied themselves. Trump surely sees this; and he's very practiced (New York international real estate business owner) at playing "with and against" all parties to the game. I think Trump wants Russia's "friendship" in global affairs (but Not China), and Trump is comfortable creating disorder in order to camoflauge his intended game plan.
Thank you for thoughtful reply. Agree, or at least in sync with your wishes, up to "Trump surely sees this ..." DJT's callous remarks about "Gaza waterfront" tempt me to agree with Mearsheimer that Trump "lacks a moral compass," and that for all that we, at least I, attempt to explain his behavior, what it might be necessary to confront is that he is a sociopath, accomplished only in making NY style complex real estate deals & other ways of manipulating money markets to enrich his gang.
But I try to 'suspend judgment.'
I see what you mean in all regards, and particularly worry about what Trump will choose to do for, or against, the people of Palestine. His speech is ugly as much as it's deadly for leading the Anglo-Zionists to carry on with murdering innocents, as they are---children, mothers, and men whom are non-combatants. Immoral as a king-maker businessman who just wants to "win" the deal he's involved in. I also recall that his daughter rejected her faith in the religion of her parents in order to become Mrs. Kushner. But I cannot put all the moving parts about Donald Trump, the loving and loyal family man, the New York real estate champion, the persecuted anti-some establishment issues' politician, and the human being who needs all the love that he asks for by playing the "lovable media entertainment genius" to every person who self-desribes as one of his MAGA supporters. The man has a big heart simultaneous with being fowl-mouthed and perhaps vengeful. I don't know. I'm continuing to pray that the good human being Trump wins over his ego.
" I don't know. I'm continuing to pray that the good human being Trump wins over his ego."
Amen
Probably just observation, IMHO. Joanne is thinking optimistically.
If, God forbid, Bibi orders Don to send in the Goy Brigade, there may well be more opposition than either expects. The idea that the future of our kids is dependent on Bibi’s legal issues is revolting.
No chance the US is going to bomb Iran, all bullshit. B2 is a pile of shite, B52s worse, can't see many air force crews jumping into their cockpits full of patriotism and gusto when they know what they're up against. All this Iran nonsense is cover for the clearing of Gaza, nothing more.
Yeah, agree with that. not sure wtf they are doing but don’t think it’ll be a bombing run at Iran.
It is hard to see.
Realistically, trying to penetrate Iranian air space looks really dangerous, so cruise missiles look like the only viable alternative. Given Iran's size and the range of our JASSM cruise missiles (~230 miles), you'd probably need to place launch platforms within range of Iran's AD systems. Tomahawks would probably be launched from the Ohio class sub that's out in the Arabian Sea, because the range limit for T'hawks would probably put surface ships within range of Iranian long range anti-ship missiles. That sub would have ~154 T'hawks max. I'm no expert, but I have seen claims that T'hawks would not fare well against Iran's AD.
Iran has been testing their EW this past week, denial of GPS, etc. I assume Russia would give Iran plenty of advance warning of any attack, at a minimum. You might even have Russian pilots in Iran's Su-35s to do interdiction with fairly long range AAMs--longer range than ours.
And that's without getting into the issue of Iran's highly probable retaliation.
And so, the suppression of criticism of Israel looks like battlespace prep.
I guess one could hold out hope that deportation of critics is a feint to scare Iran more than merely sending B2s to Diego Garcia.
True. Though it is a strategy.