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It's Just Me's avatar

Yesterday, the 270 to Win website moved Arizona from tossup to lean Trump. They have Trump at 230 electoral votes to 226 for Harris.

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Take a look at Daniel Davis show.... on the possibility of civil war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYoiTA-Wpkg

He states somthing very odd. Both sides expect to win big. Like you, I have heard that atrump is going to win big....but davis has some good points.

Bottom line we will see.

I posted this on face book.....still trying to educate the family

Start.....

Facebook deleted this embedded article in about 15 minuets... That was fast..... So I re-posted it.

One thing to add. This idea that we will not know the election results for a week or maybe even a month after election day, is nonsense. In the 70s and 80s you would be 90 percent sure the night of the election of who won.

Today in the 3rd world they know election results within a day or two. So what happened to our vaunted technological prowess?? I guess that is another disappointing spoof given to the American citizenship. Because if our glorious leaders were right about how "advanced " we are, then we should, AT THE LEAST, be on par with our ability to count election results as well as we did 30-40 years ago.

And if we cannot , then the people (dems and Reps) who legislated changes and put structural change into effect of these election ballot counting systems failed miserably.

https://thelastwillandtestiment.substack.com/p/the-2024-us-election-and-perceptions?utm_source=facebook&sd=pf&fbclid=IwY2xjawGXAZBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHRh_Lmb1pP1KmCbCXwQm6t0Ll0BUIX-b5I3aGcXEoqie6omWKaC3W5Zv-A_aem_y7Iqhod1QUH7-8nQyrPiIA

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Robert Fausti's avatar

you are right......That is one way to look at it, if thier goal was to add more tension into the system

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

This strikes me as interesting.

“This is not just a minor blip; it signals a catastrophic decline in support for Harris, or maybe those weren’t real “people” in 2020.”

Weren’t real people in 2020. Huzzah! Keep peeling the onion.

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ML's avatar

Yeah AC, inclined to share your point of view…but I’ll never forget four years ago when all systems Trump were GO! and then waking up to the impossible…!

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hope's avatar

That was my first thought. It can't be a decline in people voting because they weren't citizens casting real votes. Manufactured phony votes compliments of a corrupt party. Looking forward to anyone changing my mind. Looking at you Fontes in AZ.

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My heartfelt appreciation to all of you fellow wonderful MIH commenters and especially to Mark. Like all of you, I have my own hopes and fears around the election tomorrow.

If you want an ultra-realistic view of where we are militarily now, here is Schryver:

https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/betting-the-farm-on-the-imaginary?publication_id=1085164&post_id=151175365&isFreemail=true&r=rjj5o&triedRedirect=true

If you want a view of the current macro economic and geopolitical and cultural implications of the U.S. election, Tom L. and Alex K. are in very good form here (26:00 - 45:00):

https://matthewehret.substack.com/p/us-election-roundtable-special-featuring?publication_id=260045&post_id=151140974&isFreemail=true&r=rjj5o&triedRedirect=true

If you want some more good potential news:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/leaked-nbc-election-night-rehearsal-shows-trump-winning-swing-states

If you want a cautionary view of the current mechanics and the corruption around our current election process:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/exclusive-has-obama-already-stolen-the-election-for-kamala-harris-as-patrick-byrne-claims-alex-jones-responds/

In the end the next few days will tell the tale. What you can do is vote according to your conscience and influence those in your social circle to vote accordingly. May God be with us and increase our faith as he uses us to ensure His will is accomplished on earth. His Will will be done regardless of what WE think should happen or is happening. Thank you.

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It's Just Me's avatar

Yes, to your comments on God. Without Him, nothing is possible. His will be done. Thank you for the reminder and encouragement. I need it!

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Yeah, thanks for the link to TL and AK. Very good.

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Nope

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Sorry mistcr for the delayed response- I'm just catching up. Actually, Luongo and Krainer were responding to Peter Kuznick, not Garland Nixon. It was Kuznick who was excoriating Trump on the basis of personality. Nixon talked more about the views of blacks toward the election.

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Hal's avatar

Empty ballot boxes, like Thanksgiving Turkeys, can be stuffed.

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Manul's avatar

On election night 2020 I went to bed thinking Trump had won. Then I woke up to all of the early morning vote drops for Biden. What does all this late breaking data tell me? Nothing much yet. I’ve had my hopes dashed too many times, most recently by the 2022 red wave that wasn’t even a ripple.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

I’m terrified of this happening again.

I’m believe the gop and Trump are not as naive as they were in 2020. I’m still incredulous at what happened.

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Undine's avatar

I live in blue blue urban Los Angeles County. Before the 2020 election I saw in my immediate neighborhood about 5-6 Biden signs and one Trump. This year, I’ve seen two Trump signs and zero for The Cackler. Make of that what you will.

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hope's avatar

The white educated lib women were the first in my neighborhood to replace their Ukraine flags with Cackler signs. One chick even put up an American Flag out of the blue, I guess to neutralize the stench of the two Cackler signs. Didn't work - once the mask is proudly displayed, there is no going back. No eye contact. Equal amount of Trump signs. Phoenix.

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NFO's avatar

People’s Republic of Montgomery County?

On this side of the River (McLean/Great Falls/FC), Harris/Walz signs are about one-fifth of levels for Ds in the generals and midterms since 2016. Shy Trump move is to place a Torres (CD-8) or Cao (US Senate) yard sign--both compelling guys in their own rights--immigrant backgrounds, Special Forces, self-made as they come, and not, as the Crits once termed it, MAGA “adjacent.” These signs are a polite way of reminding the TDS freaks that they ARE “the baddies” for coming on your property to destroy stuff. While the Harris vs. Cao-plus-Torres signs are probably 5:3 and my down-ballot guys will get crushed in my CD, I think the Commonwealth is thoroughly in play. My CD and Arlington, Alexandria and Loudoun need to come in at 65/35 (D)--not happening. Thanks to Youngkin’s and AG Miyares’ efforts, you all will get an accurate, early read.

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Lived in Chevy Chase, just over the DC line, for many years, back when even a Bush, McCain or Romney sign was considered actionable injury to your neighbors. Can't even imagine what Upper NW and Montgomery County are like now. I'd be willing to bet, however, that there are quite a few yards rockin' the red up toward Clarksburg, Damascus, etc. this go-'round.

Yup, Hogan's a squish, but you do what you gotta do...

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