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Joe Biden doesn’t recognize the little brown guy (Prime Minister of UK) and pushes him away to salute the old white guy. The look on the face of @RishiSunak is priceless

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It's not about "Poor Trump," no one in the Beltway 'fears' him, and every minute spent discussing him is counterproductive. Per Angelo Codevilla, 9/23/2020, “Let there be no doubt: the ruling class’s focus on Donald Trump has been incidental. America’s potentates do not fear one pudgy orange-haired septuagenarian. They fear the millions of Americans whom they loathe, who voted for Trump, who gave his party control of House and Senate, and who will surely vote for folks these potentates really should fear." 9/23/20, “Revolution 2020,” Angelo Codevilla, American Mind...As to the 2020 election, per Tal Bachman, 2/9/2021: “In the two years prior to [Nov. 2020] election day, Trump repeatedly announced that Democrats were going to try to rig the 2020 election against him. He said it at rallies. He said it in interviews and tweets. If we take him at his word, he knew perfectly well an attempt was coming. And so I ask: What was Team Trump’s fraud prevention plan? What did he actually do to reduce the chances of ballot-stuffing, voting machine manipulation, fraudulent mail-in ballots, Chinese election-tampering, etc.? From what anyone can tell, the answer is: nothing. It should have pushed for the abolition of computerized vote-counting machines altogether, since their vulnerability to error has been amply documented for decades....Add to all this…an odd passivity underneath all the vituperative language.”…2/9/2021, “Tal Bachman: A Quick Post-Mortem.”...In 2016 Trump said to elect him because he was the one person who could bring bureaucrats to their knees. So we voted for him but he gave us the opposite, starting w. making Jared de facto pres. and being a worse neocon than McCain. If "Poor Trump" couldn't or didn't do what he promised 2016 voters-for whatever reason--and he cared about the country, he should've resigned and told his voters that US is a fake country, that it doesn't allow presidents any power. But Poor Trump didn't resign, created a new way to leech off small donors. His new job requires him to do nothing but keep his name in headlines 24/7 and millions will roll in for the "Poor Trump" industry, "institutes" and PACs stuffed w. Jared pals. The RNC/WinRed/Trump/Kushner Family & Girlfriends profit centers are a cancer that needs to removed.

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"What was Team Trump’s fraud prevention plan? What did he actually do ..." The elections are run by the individual States, per US Constitution. He would have been impeached (again, again) had he done more before the election imho. (Same with the Covid scam; another set-up! The Donald does not walk in to a set-up?)

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Re: The states, "Poor Trump" would've been impeached again, Tal Bachman saw you coming: "Most conservatives continue to give Trump a pass on this on grounds it is the states, not the federal government, who run the election process.

But the fact is, Trump and the RNC could easily have helped coordinate anti-fraud measures among Republican Party machines (and Republican governors and state legislatures) in swing states.

Yet they didn’t.

That effort could have, and should have, coordinated legislative and lawfare swing state

countermeasures against last minute changes to voting processes designed to make fraud easier.

It should have initiated legislative efforts to make voting methods more secure overall.

It should have sent RNC money to anti-fraud squads.

It should have organized and scheduled designated poll watchers (and local media) at high-risk polling stations.

It should have pushed for the abolition of computerized vote-counting machines altogether,

since their vulnerability to error has been amply documented for decades.

It should have organized state law enforcement supervision at all polling stations.

It should have organized federal law enforcement attendance at various polling stations under the rationale they were enforcing federal voting and civil rights laws.

And last, but not least: Trump should have had a top-tier team of legal experts standing by on election night to challenge any dubious results, just in case that national anti-fraud effort failed.

But he didn’t organize anything like that. Instead, as noted, he spent his time trying to get Bob Woodward and Chris Wallace to like him,

rambling for hours at Covid press conferences,

and, in short, all sorts of other things which

just were not as important as ensuring the integrity of the 2020 presidential election.

For Trump supporters, maybe the most heartbreaking thing of all was that

even with that dereliction of duty, Trump could conceivably still have salvaged victory.

Overstock.com billionaire Patrick Byrne has written an entirely plausible, and perfectly frustrating, account of his own attempts to ensure election integrity after election day. What he found was

a shambolic Trump legal team

headed by a hard-drinking, disorganized, near-octogenarian Rudy Giuliani, who has no expertise in election law, and whose legal strategies were never going to induce a court to overturn a state vote count.

And even when he could still have snatched victory from the jaws of defeat,

Trump declined to replace Giuliani, declined to follow Byrne’s sensible suggestions,

and declined to fire White House lawyer Pat Cipollone, who by various accounts,

held Trump in contempt,

leaked constantly,

and did everything possible to obstruct Trump’s hopes of winning re-election.

It never seemed to occur to Trump that if, as he claimed, he had proof hostile foreign entities

had conspired with domestic traitors to rig the election, that constituted an act of war meriting military response. We are left to wonder whether that proof actually existed. If it did, Trump failed in his first duty of protecting America. If it didn’t, he wasn’t telling the truth during an emotionally fraught, high-stakes time."...2/9/21, "Tal Bachman: A Quick Post-Mortem"

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As to "Poor Trump," "same with the Covid scam, another set-up:" What was set up? On March 13, 2020 he unilaterally declared a national emergency, suspended the Constitution, said children should remain home from school. This meant he was forcing millions of Americans to quit their jobs to stay home with children. Never in history have healthy people been forced to lockdown. How was "Poor Trump" fooled? He did nothing more than copy what UK was doing. Can Trump read English? On March 22, 2020, UK's Covid "expert" Neil Ferguson posted on his twitter that his "Covid computer model" was actually a model he'd written 13 years earlier for a different disease, influenza. Yet 5 days after that was published, on March 27, 2020, Trump signed $2.2 trillion virus bailout. Trump should be jailed for life. One GOP Rep. asked if Trump would give them a day or two to read the bailout bill, and Trump said the Rep, Massie "should be thrown out of the Republican Party." In late March 2020 Trump alone went on tv and ordered another month of "social distancing," which is a euphemism for lockdown.

From Neil Ferguson twitter:

neil_ferguson @neil_ferguson Mar 22, 2020

"I’m conscious that lots of people would like to see and run the pandemic simulation code we are using to model control measures against COVID-19. To explain the background –

I wrote the code (thousands of lines of undocumented C)

13+ years ago to model flu pandemics…”

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Wow Susan you got a lot of pent up anger toward Trump that seems to have been unleashed here. Thanks for bringing up the essay by Angelo Codevilla. As a long time subscriber to CRB and it's affiliate the American Mind I was a real fan of Mr. Codevilla and he was spot on in this essay as in so many others. He is missed

I re-read the piece and beyond the stuff you quoted above about Trump the article really highlighted the dilemma we find ourselves in and the path to recovery looks like an impossible uphill task unless/until we stand up and fight back. The American people seemed to have relinquished their freedoms and their sovereignty without even knowing it until now. The classic slow boiling of the frog who doesn't realize his fate until it's too late. Are we too late?

I'd like to think not, but recalling Zhou's comments at the beginning of his regime where he claimed you need F-35s and nukes to overturn the progressive tide. These people (Penthouse Bolsheviks and NEOCONS and a complicit GOP) have pushed us into the ghetto's of powerlessness and irrelevance and our fate, if we choose to do nothing, becomes eradication. We are dealing with psychopaths drunk on their own pretensions of superiority and this sort of thinking breeds evil.

I agree there are many reasons to be not just disappointed in Trump, but furious as well as you have cited. I share your feelings and I watched with incredulity as to how he was steamrolled again and again by those within his own party let alone the progressive beasts. I feel he did himself a real disservice by including Ivanka and Jared Kushner on his insider team. They are part of the establishment looking out for themselves and their interests never coalesced with the interests that Trump professed to share with "the deplorables." who supported him and still do.

I do not find DeSantis, at this time, to be any sort of savior. I like what he has done as governor of Florida and he demonstrates a will to challenge the status quo, but would that translate into a fighter in the white house? I don't know. There is this uneasiness that he would just be Mitt Romney with a spine. Fully funded by rich oligarch's who want a return to normal, whatever that is supposed to mean. Seems to me they want someone who willnot make waves and they can return to increasing their wealth unencumbered by political conflict which means we are not part of the way forward, but an after thought. Is this fair? I don't know, but money rules as do connections to the right sort of establishment people who will wink-wink at any sort of push back knowing it signifies nothing meanwhile our rights will continue to erode and the select few who serve their progressive leaders will be a protected species (Jews, Blacks, Muslims and LGBTQ) while the rest of us will be fair game for the purges to come. We've seen the movie (Hunger games, The purge) to know they mean to eliminate the hated middle class and the religious.

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Which is true:

1. Trump is unelectable so we need to make him the nominee

2. Trump is dangerous because he attracts blue collar working class of all races for a populist coalition that is a majority that threatens the uniparty, and all the grift in DC. He must be destroyed at any costs, ignoring and censoring him did not work. He still had huge success in the midterms, even with his own party backstabbing his candidates.

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Trump has proven that he's not unelectable. In the past. For the future? Dangerous to bet against him.

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As I understand it, the alternative to government is no-government. What could possibly go wrong?

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If one listens to Michael Malice (author of the recent book The White Pill), the option to government is anarchism - which is perhaps the alternative MR below suggests and what Malice advocates. However, I don't see how anarchism sustains itself in the end. People will always demand that an outside authority with sufficient coercive power (government) control the behavior of others when that behavior is detrimental either to individuals or to society as a whole. So I think in the long run, we have one of three choices: strong government, no government, or significantly weakened/restrained government.

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Yes, I like him too because he offers a different viewpoint to consider. There are certain features of his anarchist position that appear positive, but I'm not sure how it would work in the end. But you are correct about moving the Overton window.

I'm guessing that actions which would normally be accomplished via volunteerism and self-organization tend to be less pursued as the role of government in those pursuits increases. For consideration, below is an interesting article about the ethics of wealth redistribution - presumably by government (as opposed to individual charity) - as a means of eliminating poverty:

https://lawliberty.org/classic/the-malign-ethics-of-equality/

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Yes.

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So you'd abolish the police. No problems there ...

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