But America does still have a conscience, inchoate as it may be at times. Read about it, as documented by Gallup, here: Which Side Are You On? Nevertheless, the gaslighting is intense. All stops out. It’s fairly pointless to try to document it here—it’s everywhere. Instead, for perspective and a possible bigger picture on Security State ops which use State and local thugs as proxies … I take a sharp left turn.
So the “Israeli lobby” is funding the counter protesters, I saw one brief blurb claiming Soros money is funding the Gaza group. So whose money is it? This is not organic, thousands of dollars for REI tents and all?
It wasn't uncommon for social protest movements in the 70s to have their own security cordon to delineate their group from random people joining (troublemakers, infiltrators, etc). I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain it's a practice that existed in the 20s/30s as well and it wouldn't surprise me if it occurred in the mid 1800s.
My point is just that this theme (Max's argument) isn't new.
If individuals are disorganized, naive or manipulated, they can hardly blame other groups for taking advantage.
A few days ago I saw a "viral" clip of NY protestors (Colombia Uni?) who had no idea what they were protesting. Like, "come on man". These are literally useful idiots serving the agenda of others. It's a good distraction.
I was surprised that US government decided to make antisemitism and Israel an issue at the same time this year. In my experience, liberal Jews don't connect Israel with being Jewish. If anything, they sympathize with Arabs. Soros started anti-Israel group J Street years ago. And US government loves Soros.
Gut Feeling - it would be career suicide for anyone in the fbi to target anyone even remotely Islamic related, including pro Gaza protesters.
I appreciate that Max Blumenthal has noted the fbi entrapment in Michigan and the J6 useful idiots, and how there is a double standard.
I would not be surprised if there are outside agitators / forces that want to smear or highlight negative behavior by the pro Gaza protesters, I just don’t believe they are Fbi.
I don't think that's exactly what he's saying about this, although I'm not entirely sure what he IS suggesting. Here's his thesis:
"My thesis holds that certain protest movements are allowed to materialize while others are immediately repressed, depending on how the spectacle can be weaponized by the security state and the threat the movements behind them present to entrenched power. Harsh sentences are often the result of a successful security state trap."
I read that, in the context of his response to the other guy, as meaning that J6 and the MI protest were allowed/instigated so that they could weaponized against a political enemy of the ruling class. I think he's right about that. There's plenty of video evidence and eye witness accounts to confirm that.
The anti-genocide protests, by contrast, fall into the second category. There were no FBI or other provocateurs behind these protests that anyone can point to, so these are different. Instead, Blumenthal states that most of the provocateurs are semi-pro Israel Lobby types. I have seen examples online of these types, who are found to have ties to Zionist outfits and stage provocations, hoaxes.
So the question becomes, as time passes is it possible that the Security State does get involved. My educated guess is that Wray simply lied when he said the FBI was paying no attention. Contrary to your view, I don't for a moment think that it would be career suicide for the FBI to target pro-Palestinian groups. Hamas is on the FBI terrorist list already, after all, so that means they're looking at sympathizers here. Any action taken in this regard would be top down directed. There would be zero career risk in the FBI cooperating with Zionist operatives.
It's fairly obvious from some of the arrest videos that a great deal of this is performative. Cops who in unison glance towards the camera ("have we started yet..?") before proceeding with their arrest, etc. About as convincing as those squabbles over toilet rolls back in the day. Actors frequently carry out similar roles in the UK, the Golders Green area of London is always a popular choice if some "...we don't dare leave our houses..." headlines are being prepared for the weekend rags.
So the “Israeli lobby” is funding the counter protesters, I saw one brief blurb claiming Soros money is funding the Gaza group. So whose money is it? This is not organic, thousands of dollars for REI tents and all?
It wasn't uncommon for social protest movements in the 70s to have their own security cordon to delineate their group from random people joining (troublemakers, infiltrators, etc). I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain it's a practice that existed in the 20s/30s as well and it wouldn't surprise me if it occurred in the mid 1800s.
My point is just that this theme (Max's argument) isn't new.
If individuals are disorganized, naive or manipulated, they can hardly blame other groups for taking advantage.
A few days ago I saw a "viral" clip of NY protestors (Colombia Uni?) who had no idea what they were protesting. Like, "come on man". These are literally useful idiots serving the agenda of others. It's a good distraction.
I was surprised that US government decided to make antisemitism and Israel an issue at the same time this year. In my experience, liberal Jews don't connect Israel with being Jewish. If anything, they sympathize with Arabs. Soros started anti-Israel group J Street years ago. And US government loves Soros.
Gut Feeling - it would be career suicide for anyone in the fbi to target anyone even remotely Islamic related, including pro Gaza protesters.
I appreciate that Max Blumenthal has noted the fbi entrapment in Michigan and the J6 useful idiots, and how there is a double standard.
I would not be surprised if there are outside agitators / forces that want to smear or highlight negative behavior by the pro Gaza protesters, I just don’t believe they are Fbi.
I don't think that's exactly what he's saying about this, although I'm not entirely sure what he IS suggesting. Here's his thesis:
"My thesis holds that certain protest movements are allowed to materialize while others are immediately repressed, depending on how the spectacle can be weaponized by the security state and the threat the movements behind them present to entrenched power. Harsh sentences are often the result of a successful security state trap."
I read that, in the context of his response to the other guy, as meaning that J6 and the MI protest were allowed/instigated so that they could weaponized against a political enemy of the ruling class. I think he's right about that. There's plenty of video evidence and eye witness accounts to confirm that.
The anti-genocide protests, by contrast, fall into the second category. There were no FBI or other provocateurs behind these protests that anyone can point to, so these are different. Instead, Blumenthal states that most of the provocateurs are semi-pro Israel Lobby types. I have seen examples online of these types, who are found to have ties to Zionist outfits and stage provocations, hoaxes.
So the question becomes, as time passes is it possible that the Security State does get involved. My educated guess is that Wray simply lied when he said the FBI was paying no attention. Contrary to your view, I don't for a moment think that it would be career suicide for the FBI to target pro-Palestinian groups. Hamas is on the FBI terrorist list already, after all, so that means they're looking at sympathizers here. Any action taken in this regard would be top down directed. There would be zero career risk in the FBI cooperating with Zionist operatives.
It's fairly obvious from some of the arrest videos that a great deal of this is performative. Cops who in unison glance towards the camera ("have we started yet..?") before proceeding with their arrest, etc. About as convincing as those squabbles over toilet rolls back in the day. Actors frequently carry out similar roles in the UK, the Golders Green area of London is always a popular choice if some "...we don't dare leave our houses..." headlines are being prepared for the weekend rags.