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Tom and Ed are correct. They are pushing for war with China to save their own skins and grab total power. What we/they learned from the Covid scam was if you scare people enough, you can get them to obey any stupid rule you hit them with. If Covid can do that, think how much more power a war could give them! And still the sheep sleep on!

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Then there is this:

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/28/chinas-ccp-warns-elon-musk-against-sharing-wuhan-lab-leak-report.html

Could China have been in cahoots with the Fauci-led deep state to unleash this virus on the world? And then the deep state turns on China and blames them as a basis for war? We report you decide.

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this is anti China propaganda, pure and simple. come on, its cnbc.

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The Covid malarkey suited virtually everyone except Joe Public. Every power player - from Fauci to the CCP - had something to gain from it. May they all rot in hell.

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Actually I've speculated that in the past. I can see that the CPC would be interested in getting rid of the oldies and hope then to encourage the younger people to start reproducing. I think people who think that Russia is the junior partner to Russia aren't seeing the full picture. China has a lot of problems, starting with demography. I'm against US wars on Russia and/or China, but that doesn't mean I'm a fan of China.

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Maybe sometime many would like your thoughts about why you arent a fan of China. thanks.

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Off the top of my head ...

1) I believe China still suffers from Mao hangover, for example the one child and related successor policies;

2) I believe China could gain good will by modifying its maximalist South China Sea claims through diplomatic talks with neighboring countries;

3) while industrial spying is a fact of life everywhere in the world, China's full on approach and lack of respect for intellectual property concerns, as well as its use of its diaspora population for these and also for political purposes presents legit security concerns for all countries in contact with China.

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thanks, Mark, will look further into your points.

I dont see there is any real issue anymore re having more than one child and there never was in the countryside, I believe.

I agree all countries could exercise more diplomacy but the US stirs things up big time in the South China Sea so this makes it tougher for China.

I am not sure what I think about intellectual property, just not sure. Thank you for writing your thoughts.

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I can conceive that the Chinese might have intended it as a weapon internationally, as well. I don't have any evidence in that regard but I think it makes some logical sense.

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China hate, wake up.

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best evidence is that they locked down domestic travel to/from Wuhan and kept international travel open

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These days, Diss, it's probably best to assume the worst.

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It is hard to argue against what you say are the twisted and evil plans of the Davos crowd and the connections between them and COVID-19 and the German greens and Malthus and what they see as a zero-sum game resource wise and economically and demographically. Given that, there are still a couple of things twisting my much limited brain, however.

My questions do not pertain to motive as much as opportunity and method. Luongo has made the point that most of the large commercial banks in the U.S. who work directly with the Federal Reserve are against Davos and have enough influence over the Fed to make it a foil to their purposes. I have wondered why the corresponding European-based international diversified commercial banks would not take the same position - people such as HSBC, ING, ISNPY, SCGLY, etc. Is their influence over the ECB so small that they could not prevent a European CBDC? I don't know. What seems apparent is that the U.S. Fed as currently constituted will never implement a retail CBDC ("over Powell's dead body"). Even if Brexit is reversed, how could you have a global CBDC that works without the U.S. and Russia and China and India and Iran and Brazil and ...?

Aside from that, even if Davos is successful in crashing the economies of the west as a whole (including the U.S.) via sovereign debt defaults, what are the incentives and vehicles through which they intend to facilitate investment in their cause after that? Who would invest in Europe when it has no industrial base and no hard assets and no productivity and all of its individual countries have defaulted on their debts? The U.S. at least would continue to have natural resources and a basis for industrial production - but Europe has been almost totally dependent on Russia for cheap natural resources and China for cheap imports and trade. What then for them?

Power hungry idiots who may only succeed in making life miserable for us all.

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These are things I can't possibly discuss intelligently. However, there is a difference. The Fed isn't actually a central bank. It does seem that the war on Russia and China is part of the effort to force them to forego their sovereignty and submit to the economic and monetary plans of the Davos crowd. They're not willing to do that, as the Fed and the NY guys are not. What's behind this is the European Davos crowd want to run things, but they have no real resources to back them up--not compared to Russia, the US, and other parts of the world. That may explain why the Euro based banks are going along with the ECB and Davos--because they see that as their only hope to remain in the top tier. You're probably right that this is a doomed scheme.

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The impression I have as a European is that our "leaders" are even more deluded and reality-averse than their US counterparts. The WEF/Davos brigade are mostly thinktankers and cloud-based fools - believe me, I mingle with these people. I really don't think they have thought through what they are unleashing.

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Alex Krainer entirely agrees with you.

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Agreed about Davos' effort to enforce a centralized monetary and economic control ("rules based order" if you will). But I don't understand how the Fed is not a central bank and what the implication of that is?

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You all can go for Fauci. I want the real villain, his boss. Arrogant Francis Collins.

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And why stop there? The public hangings should go right to the top of the pyramid.

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You need not substitute very far to see the worlds largest (and decidedly trans-national) pharmaceutical companies as "drug cartels".

Color of law. That's the only distinction.

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"I prefer to see this—and I believe Luongo’s Theory of Everything sees its this way, too—as part of a plan to collapse the world economy."

Spot on! Something I never hear mentioned lately is "The Cloward_Piven Strategy." The strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. Forces for change seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse. We have open borders flooding our country, massive financial give-aways, stressed markets, the beginning of runaway inflation and a lot of this was set off by Covid and the chaos that ensued. Recently we pondered all the destruction through fires and explosions of our critical food suppliers, energy producers. and infrastructure. How much of this is is planned and whether some of it is due to bad actors crossing our southern border to unleash mayhem at Biden's invitation? It surely does make you wonder.

I firmly believe, as I am sure many others here agree, this has been calculated, gamed out, and the acceleration is necessary as people are waking up (to friggin slowly for me) what's going on. One has to wonder about the pivot to war on China as the new talking point among the Oligarch''s and their sycophants in the media. You've got so many leftists touting the superiority of the China model one has to wonder is the U.S. planning a taken over by the Chinese through defeat? I mean they are all bought and paid for and China has nearly unfettered access to our classified information, our universities, think tanks and they are buying up land and companies. An old friend of mine in the tech world has developed some really advanced sensors, cameras and software for the autonomous sector. He has been hired by a Chinese company (RoboSense LiDAR) who set up shop in the heart of our automotive sector in Michigan to use his technology to advance their desire to overwhelm this sector too which includes AI and Robotics. Everything in America is fair game for China while the Chinese will not allow any foreign company to set up shop in China and hold a majority stake.

It seems to me that our Neo-Malthusian Oligarch's and their warm embrace of eugenics are intent on making good on their promises to reduce our carbon footprint, just not theirs. We need to change that.

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Apparently not enough Native Americans stepped forward for the 'emergency' approved 'vaccine' as now there are commercials sponsored by a Native American organization telling parents to get their youngsters vaccinated. This, after all the post-vax ill-effects are finally coming to light.

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“It’s time to rethink our conceptions of the plausible and implausible.“ Yes, it is, especially if Scott Ritter’s pronouncement is true: “America doesn’t have friends. We only have acquaintances that we use for our sole benefit…and then we abandon them.” In this sense, destroying NS pipeline is perfectly logical.

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That’s always been true of nation states.

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Yeah, he's been on fire.

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The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite. ~ Thomas Jefferson

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what would war with China look like?

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The second tweet is right no money!!!

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Dr. Mike Yeadon has opined that the COVID 19 virus exists only on a computer simulation. What if the initial spike in deaths were old people who were killed by Remdesivir and ventilators? What if all they had was the flu, and they were simply culled to feed the pandemic narrative? WHY IS THERE NO OUTCRY OVER THE FACT THAT hospitals received upwards of $100,000 from the feds for every patient that died “with COVID”?

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Let me take a stab at that: Because people are stupid and morally numbed by modern life?

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Morally numbed, yes. But just living life doesn’t have that kind of power over people’s sense of true and false - right and wrong. What seems to be in play is way more nefarious and well designed. Our bettors MAKE us morally numb by design. We make better sheep that way.

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What the "elites" failed to take into account is that the people left standing are the ones who refused to take their jab.

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What Revolution in history ended up the why the perpetrators planned for it to happen? These elites will get eaten very quickly by the unintended consequences of the forces they put in motion. Of courses we’ll be long gone so won’t see it. Too bad.

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