So the US deep state, in charge of the deep military which is actually competent and not woke, decides who "lives" with energy and who "dies" without energy?
This takes the concept of the petrodollar to its logical conclusion, I guess.
"Russia has the resources to quickly and inexpensively create such a security system."
So, why did they not create a security system? Or perhaps they did, and that's why Russia has remained tight-lipped--are they letting the guilty dig themselves a hole backfilled with BS?
Does anyone have the straight scoop (I know, that's a lot to ask in this crazy conflict) on the volume and type of gas that was in the NS1 and NS2 pipes when they exploded? For a pipeline that was minimally/provisionally operating and another that wasn't even commissioned, there was a heck of a lot of pressure welling up to the surface. I get that even inoperative pipelines require pressurization/equalization for structural integrity, but was what was (is?) bubbling up to the surface actually days' worth (at $600+ mill a pop) of actual Gazprom natgas or some inert pressurization gas? I've seen both reported. If the former, why so much gas in those pipes? Just surprised that the Greta choir isn't apoplectic all over the news right now.
Yes, NS1 was at 20% max since about July, but was taken down entirely in early September due to maintenance issues after the turbine repairs and may or may not be operating at all now, so who knows? I guess the bigger question is what is coming out of NS2 and why? I have no idea.
Understood. I've seen reporting that both pipes (at roughly 7-10 bar pressure depths) were pressurized to somewhere between 200 and 300 bar and dropped to around 7-10 bar almost immediately with the explosions. Just curious whether that was natgas or inert pressure gas, because there seemed to be A LOT of it.
Yes, I'm sure Russia has thought through every eventuality and will act accordingly. Of course, the globalists want Team Putin to over-react so they can go all Shock and Awe. As for the Germans, I expect nothing good from their government. Their only hope is some kind of popular uprising.
As I said the first time, the actor was one who could get away with it. Poland can't get away with it--except with US backing. It remains that the US gave the go ahead.
The answer is, No. Also, the Norwegian reserves are nothing close to the Russian reserves, and Poland could find itself looking for a new source in the not too distant future--with not too many nations interested in doing business with them.
"Immediately after the explosions rocked the Northern Stream pipelines, a symbolic ceremony of launching the Baltic Pipe gas pipeline took place in Poland. The pipeline connects fields on the Norwegian shelf in the North Sea with Poland via Denmark. The valve was turned by Polish and Danish authorities, with loud claims that the era of Russian dominance in the gas industry is coming to an end.
"From 2023, the throughput capacity of the Baltic Pipe should be 10 billion cubic meters of gas per year. For comparison, the actual capacity of Nord Stream-1 alone was more than 58 billion cubic meters per year.
"The terrorist attack on the Nord Stream may be the first direct use of the US and British armed forces against the Russian infrastructure. The obvious purpose of the sabotage is the internationalization of the military conflict. The main beneficiary is the United States. The attack on Russian gas pipelines binds the EU to American LNG supplies. Europe remains the main victim."
The Polish angle gives US some degree of deniability, but not much.
So the US deep state, in charge of the deep military which is actually competent and not woke, decides who "lives" with energy and who "dies" without energy?
This takes the concept of the petrodollar to its logical conclusion, I guess.
Nord Stream 2 requires military protection
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"Russia has the resources to quickly and inexpensively create such a security system."
So, why did they not create a security system? Or perhaps they did, and that's why Russia has remained tight-lipped--are they letting the guilty dig themselves a hole backfilled with BS?
Does anyone have the straight scoop (I know, that's a lot to ask in this crazy conflict) on the volume and type of gas that was in the NS1 and NS2 pipes when they exploded? For a pipeline that was minimally/provisionally operating and another that wasn't even commissioned, there was a heck of a lot of pressure welling up to the surface. I get that even inoperative pipelines require pressurization/equalization for structural integrity, but was what was (is?) bubbling up to the surface actually days' worth (at $600+ mill a pop) of actual Gazprom natgas or some inert pressurization gas? I've seen both reported. If the former, why so much gas in those pipes? Just surprised that the Greta choir isn't apoplectic all over the news right now.
Methane gas. 80% ability to dissolve in water. Relatively harmless.
I thought I read that NS1 was still operating at about 20% capacity, but I'm not sure.
Yes, NS1 was at 20% max since about July, but was taken down entirely in early September due to maintenance issues after the turbine repairs and may or may not be operating at all now, so who knows? I guess the bigger question is what is coming out of NS2 and why? I have no idea.
Understood. I've seen reporting that both pipes (at roughly 7-10 bar pressure depths) were pressurized to somewhere between 200 and 300 bar and dropped to around 7-10 bar almost immediately with the explosions. Just curious whether that was natgas or inert pressure gas, because there seemed to be A LOT of it.
This wasn't just an act of sabotage; it was an act of war. I agree, Mark. This doesn't bode well.
Like Germany vs Poland? Russia doesn’t care now.
Who knows?
Will Germany and more importantly Russia respond as such?
I can't imagine Russia did not war game this possibility of sabotage throughly and have their plan of action.
Yes, I'm sure Russia has thought through every eventuality and will act accordingly. Of course, the globalists want Team Putin to over-react so they can go all Shock and Awe. As for the Germans, I expect nothing good from their government. Their only hope is some kind of popular uprising.
Really? We all knew who did it... Cui bono?
As I said the first time, the actor was one who could get away with it. Poland can't get away with it--except with US backing. It remains that the US gave the go ahead.
The answer is, No. Also, the Norwegian reserves are nothing close to the Russian reserves, and Poland could find itself looking for a new source in the not too distant future--with not too many nations interested in doing business with them.
Via Southfront:
"Immediately after the explosions rocked the Northern Stream pipelines, a symbolic ceremony of launching the Baltic Pipe gas pipeline took place in Poland. The pipeline connects fields on the Norwegian shelf in the North Sea with Poland via Denmark. The valve was turned by Polish and Danish authorities, with loud claims that the era of Russian dominance in the gas industry is coming to an end.
"From 2023, the throughput capacity of the Baltic Pipe should be 10 billion cubic meters of gas per year. For comparison, the actual capacity of Nord Stream-1 alone was more than 58 billion cubic meters per year.
"The terrorist attack on the Nord Stream may be the first direct use of the US and British armed forces against the Russian infrastructure. The obvious purpose of the sabotage is the internationalization of the military conflict. The main beneficiary is the United States. The attack on Russian gas pipelines binds the EU to American LNG supplies. Europe remains the main victim."
The Polish angle gives US some degree of deniability, but not much.
I am not sure Poland would have the military capacity to have actually set the explosives? They were definitely set on a timer.
I've read that they do, although they would probably have needed technical and intel help.