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‘Total Victory’ grants a reprieve to ‘Final Solution’, or are some more equal than others?

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In the words of the current President of the United States our support for Ukraine is based on a great battle for the principles of freedom and democracy by their greatest proponent, the United States of America.

Joe Biden says that the Ukraine conflict is a clear test for democracies around the world and part of a "great battle for freedom."

Biden says there is no justification for Russia's brutal war of aggression in Ukraine and has openly called for the removal of Russian President Vladimir Putin from office.

“For God’s sake this man cannot remain in power,” Biden has said.

Biden has called Putin a "butcher” and a tyrant.

Biden says that Russia is trying to crush democracy at home and endanger it in its neighbors.

He says that democracies around the world must prepare for a “long fight ahead” and all freedom-loving countries must commit to safeguarding democracy over the long haul.

https://www.rferl.org/a/biden-ukrainian-refugees-putin-butcher/31771985.html

So Joe Biden says. He talks a good game. But here is the other side of the coin of the way the United States often conducts its foreign policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinations_by_the_United_States

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When you think about it for more than a minute...it really doesn't matter one little bit what positions Kamala Harris might have taken in the past since if she is elected she will be no more than the next mouthpiece for the blob which has selected her. No different than Joe Biden. She will do what she is told. And if she fails, she only has to look at the end of Joe Biden to know what lies in store for her.

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Cass, you’ve got to stop with this Vulcan Mindmeld Thing, it’s creepn me out, you took the words right out of my mouth!! :-). I was reflecting on the horrible mess that we are in and realized that with Biden still being a placeholder till Kama takes over, the real controllers have business as usual and all the political spectacle going on is just more distraction. With the situation in the ME growing more volatile by the day, it seems that their plans continue undisturbed.

Maybe I’m just too cynical, but I still have a really bad feeling about the next few months.

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It’s interesting that little mention has been been made of Juniper Oak 23.2, the largest joint US Israeli exercise in history with 140 aircraft and 4 b-52 bombers. Apparently they gamed bombing Iran’s nuclear program with 100 tons of tnt.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20230125/massive-us-israeli-war-games-aimed-at-iran-top-us-general-suggests-1106668758.html

General Michael Kurilla, “What we think this exercise demonstrates is we can walk and chew gum at the same time.”

Presumably this means fighting on multiple fronts.

Obviously CENTCOM has planned hitting Iran’s nuclear program for a while, now we’’re just going through the escalation ante.

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Must start wars that Trump can’t stop. Too big to cancel.

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After the Israelis hit the Iran embassy there were obviously a lot of back-channel discussions going on between Iran and DC to calm things down. I wonder if the same conversations are taking place over this? However, at some points the Iranians are going to blow. No nation can take this kind of provocation lying down for any length of time. I hate to sound like a neocon warmonger, but I'm at the stage where I hope that Hezbollah and Iran do call Israel and the US neocons' bluff. It's a sad and tragic fact that the only way these gangsters will back off is if they get a kinetic thrashing. That's where we are, folks.

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We know that Netanyahu, Israel, and the United States through Qutar starting in about 2012 fundal money to Hamas in Gaza thinking they could put them in political control and then control them somehow.

Fast-forward to 2023 when the attack took place in Israel. at the time I had severe reservations and questions about how that attacked happened given that there were supposed to be IDF troops guarding those borders along Gaza. How was it? The IDF was not in that sector when the attack happened?

I have thought all along that there were a lot of questions, not being answered, and that Netanyahu was using this as the excuse, he needed to invade and go after Hamas, which ironically is his own creation?

What is Israel done instead of retaliating and then negotiating for the return of the hostages and ending this? He has expanded this war and now it is viewed by the world as a genocide happening in real time.

Because of this continuing war, Israel has sacrificed all of the Goodwill it had all of the support it had and is now become viewed as a war, mongering genocidal nation. Because Netanyahu will not stop and not negotiate I believe that Israel, in a real sense, has crossed the Rubicon as far as coming back and commanding the kind of support and respect it once had.

Add to that that they have not been able to achieve the goals they wanted in totally annihilating Hamas. They have weakened the IDF to the point, they cannot pivot and invade to take on Hezbollah and win. They have stretched their resources to thin and the opposition knows it. If it becomes a war of attrition, Israel will lose.

I am of the opinion, given the current circumstances that a widening of the war in the Middle East end badly for Israel, and may just push Israel into the heap of history as a country. Basically Israel has been at continuous state of war to survive as a country since 1947.

Netanyahu‘s Legacy may well be that of the end of Israel as a country. I do not believe that the United States as a whole has any interest in sending our men and women to the Middle East to die for this cause more than I think we should send anyone to Ukraine. So perhaps we are seeing The last days of Israel, all due to the constant megalomania of Netanyahu and those that support him.

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Excellent comment. "Because of this continuing war, Israel has sacrificed all of the Goodwill it had all of the support it had and is now become viewed as a war, mongering genocidal nation." The rest of the Middle East, China and Russia are seeing Israel as a mad dog that has to be put down before it infects them too. Like you, I think Netanyahu is burying the state of Israel.

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Imagine the outcome if Israel manages to lose the war Netanyahu seems to be planning in the Middle East? Is that so far-fetched? Many observers are saying the unthinkable out loud. Israel cannot defeat an all out onslaught from the combined forces of its numerous enemies.

As long as we are trying to guess where things go from here, how about this *preposterous* 'conspiracy theory' espoused by 'Anymike' (a commenter on Ron Unz's latest post on the state of the American Empire over at his Unz Review) which links up the wars in Israel and Ukraine:

"Early in the Russo-Ukraine conflict, I made note of the possibility that the way was being prepared for the creation of an Israel 2.0 (presumably) in the central area of the present Ukraine. This, I said, would be the case regardless of the outcome of the present war.

"I pointed out ... several purposes this postulated new Israel could have. One is that it could serve as a new destination for European-descended Jews who wanted to leave whatever country they are residing in but who do not want to immigrate to Israel. Now that the United States is losing its allure as [a] destination, a new destination is needed.

"Another reason is simply to catch the overflow from the present Israel.

"Another reason is to provide a place where the Israeli population can be evacuated to in the event the Arabs develop the military power to defeat Israel or if it becomes necessary for the Israel population to be evacuated for some other political reason. Once again, the fact that the United States is no longer so appealing as a destination in an underlying reality.

"Finally, there is the demographic future of Israel itself. The time is going to arrive when the majority of Israelis will be of non-European descent. In that event, the European-descended Jews may begin to leave Israel at an accelerating rate, and certainly European-descended Jews around the world will no longer want to move there.

"It all adds up. If the United States and NATO prevail in the Ukraine war, the United States and NATO become the patron of Israel 2.0. If Russia prevails, Russia become the patron. Either way, Ukraine becomes the home of Israel 2.0. It doesn’t matter if the present Israel survives or doesn’t in the longer arc. Ukraine becomes the home of Israel 2.0."

Preposterous? Or just crazy enough to be the plan?

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Jul 31·edited Jul 31

Hah! Glad you mentioned Unz, Cass. He's on my news trawl list and I often drop in to see what's going down. Most of it is nasty, delusional nonsense like you mention above, with the occasional rational offering. I agree that Jews of western origin will leave in drones as the crazies take over. However, there is zero chance that Russia would allow them to populate Ukraine, and to put it mildly, Ukrainians themselves aren't exactly known for their love of Jews. To any sane Israeli left in the country, I'd say, "Go West, young man!"

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“will leave in drones…”! Ha! Great imagery Steg! Not to make light of what is becoming an ever more dire situation, of course.

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Good catch, ML! I meant "droves", of course. Although with the way tech is developing, who knows?!

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