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Ray-SoCa's avatar

The US used to have credibility with a Legal System that was seen worldwide as something that could be overall trusted and emulated.

If the US can treat a former President this way, what world leader would trust the US?

Our elections are now seen as a joke.

Our moral high ground, we kinda use to have, is gone. Jan 6 Prisoner 800 days without a trial? Capital building surrounded by barbed wire? Sanctions left and right. Requiring banks in any country with US customers, to hand over their banking info. Using US Law around the world against Bribery. The pushing world wide of the LGBT agenda by the US is amazing. The support of color revolutions around the world. The West has destroyed the perception of financial safety / trust, with the seizure of Russian Oligarch Assets, and Central Bank Reserves. This was not even done in either World War!

This sentence resonates with me:

"America’s standing in the world is being exposed as resting on raw power—military and monetary"

And Emerald Robinson has a tweet, I agree with unfortunately.

"Lots of GOP politicians will claim they’re upset about the indictment of President Trump today — and the question is: are you dumb enough to believe them?

The GOP will likely do nothing — based on their previous record of doing nothing."

https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1641598890502651904?cxt=HHwWgICwwcnfkMgtAAAA

And the guy, Douglass Mackey, that did a meme against Hillary, got convicted. And could face 10 years in Prison. How dare he make fun of Hillary!

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/social-media-influencer-douglass-mackey-convicted-election-interference-2016

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/31/doj-celebrates-first-criminal-conviction-in-u-s-history-for-creating-a-meme-the-future-of-the-first-amendment-under-the-restrict-act-clarifies/https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/31/doj-celebrates-first-criminal-conviction-in-u-s-history-for-creating-a-meme-the-future-of-the-first-amendment-under-the-restrict-act-clarifies/

Or what of the Alex Jones Judgement of basically a Billion Dollars? How dare he disagree with the elites!

And what of Julian Assange, still in Prison? How dare he embarrass the elites!

I agree with Pepe Escobar's Lenin's Quote:

“there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen”

Lots going on.

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dissonant1's avatar

And then there is this:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/new-bill-aims-to-use-assets-seized-from-wealthy-russian-to-assist-ukraine

Just the thing to further inspire confidence in investing in the institutions of the West, and the U.S. in particular. This of course while we are already moving away from a unipolar reserve currency. Did someone say these people were smart?

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Tom Luongo’s view:

Is this how bad it is in Europe that they need a $300 billion capital injection to keep the banks afloat at 5% FFR?

https://twitter.com/TFL1728/status/1641407479836729345?cxt=HHwWgoCz9YDaucctAAAA

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SMH's avatar

This whole escapade is so tawdry and infuriating, particularly the part where Bragg tries to claim the moral high ground with all the rubbish about the rule of law and that his office won’t be intimidated and justice will not be subverted. As James J. Kilpatrick used to say, “ balderdash!”

We’re starting to make Banana Republics look like bastions of judicial restraint and probity.

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perle's avatar

Tiger by the tail. The dog has caught the car. Now what? Poor Bragg (and Democrats). Many of you will disagree, but we will now see who plays multidimensional chess. And its not just the 2024 election.

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DJL's avatar

One view most reasonable people would agree with is that this prosecution would not be happening if Trump were not running for president. And that alone makes this a political prosecution. Bragg going through the dirty clothes hamper to find a charge, any charge, is so transparently worm-like and petty. As many pundits have already stated, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube once something as blatant and in your face as this happens. Pandora's box has been opened. One can hope the democrats reap the whirlwind that follows they so richly deserve.

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NFO's avatar

Even a conviction (which they're not going to get, or, at least (given the NY-jury factor), won't make stick on appeal) will not disqualify Trump from running from President, as the Constitution is quite clear on point. I think they know exactly this and are simply pushing the case to create a martyr in Trump, who will divert support away from DeSantis, the one for which they have no effective contingency plan. Either way, clear abuse of the judicial process for political purposes.

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ccdirtdawgs's avatar

Will divert support away from DeSantis who, in polling, lacks majority support anyway? That 4d chess is way over my head, I guess.

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NFO's avatar

Once he gets his campaign going in earnest, DeSantis will gain significantly on Trump, but Trump’s numbers did shoot up since the indictment prospect got real in early March. We shall see how it plays out, but the Dems are elevating Trump again for a reason in this.

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ccdirtdawgs's avatar

The Dems are making a point that no one is above their partisan law that they make up as they go along. While you fret abt DeSantis' prospects, don't forget that Trump shd be serving his 2nd term presently if there were any rule of law at all in the USA. Certainly Trump is not perfect, but it's even harder for me to trust any potential GOP candidate who seems willing to jump in the ring never questioning whether we actually have "free & fair" elections. It's foolish, imo, unless perhaps, he feels like he has the green light from the Uniparty.

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NFO's avatar

Not “fretting” in any way whatsoever. I have absolutely no illusions about the game and the stakes, but noted.

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ccdirtdawgs's avatar

I'm sorry, it's me who's fretting abt a beloved dog who just got a terminal colorectal cancer dx, nothing even related to a politician! Not fair of me to torch anyone over it.

Feeling better for now - stumbled across some positive invitro research results using ivermectin to treat colorectal cancer cells. W/nothing to lose, we're going invivo & she's tolerated it well over the w/end. Fingers crossed!

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

DeSantis won't be running after this now.

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Steghorn21's avatar

The pace of things is quickening - and it's still only the end of March.

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History Lass's avatar

Pepe Escobar summed it up quite well in his article at Strategic Culture. He opened with a quote attributed to Lenin " there are decades where nothing happens; and weeks where decades happen"

https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/03/30/the-capital-of-the-multipolar-world-a-moscow-diary/

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Steghorn21's avatar

Very true, HL. Hemingway's quote about bankruptcy is also very apt: "slowly the quickly"

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Steghorn21's avatar

Or to be more accurate "gradually then suddenly". I think we're all out of "gradually"

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dissonant1's avatar

"In the late 1990s, Brzezinski pontificated that, 'Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical center because its very existence as an independent state helps transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.'

Through the years I payed very little attention to Brzezinski, thinking that what little I read from him was so utterly devoid of reason and any respect for reality that anything he had to say would be of no real world consequence. Unfortunately, he has made a comeback now in the Biden admin. Like Biden, his being consistently wrong about foreign policy has not prevented his views from being adopted wholesale by the Dem party and the deep state. I really hoped Trump's election would be the death of the Neo-Cons and that is one of the main reasons I voted for him. It is kind of hard to believe they (including the Kristol clown and his coterie) are all back so soon and with such power. No real world consequences seem to disqualify them, ever. How stupid and self-destructive is the money supporting them.

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RJMR's avatar

I see that too. Bragg's career is over, he just doesn’t know that yet. When this thing goes south, and it will, he will be the scapegoat, effortlessly cast aside by the rabid “get-Trump” puppet masters.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Those are all legal, "by the book" considerations. The Dems are well capable of ignoring them and ploughing on regardless.

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