I would apply the thumbscrews to the Generals regarding who gave them their marching orders. This is critical. Millions of lives and untold suffering await, and merely passing it off as ‘Oh, it’s the deep state again’, is cowardice, considering what future generations and their FOIA’s will reveal, and how we should have proceeded in exposing the malignant roots of these drives to war.
I finished a fascinating history of the Crimean War by Orlando Figes recently. Some of the points made were on a post here a couple of weeks ago. Salient points -
- England has made an absolute mess of things since defeating Napoleon (my take)
- The Crimean War was the first war where the press had a huge role in determining the policy of a country
- England had an enormous fear of Russia, because of the size of its' army as mentioned a couple of weeks ago.
- A major fear was Russia going thru the 'stans, etc." to take over India. Side note, read Wilbur Smith's trilogy of Cecil Rhodes and the history of Rhodesia. Brutal about the East India Company running the Brithish government in the past.
- England got France to go along with the invasion of Crimea because France was still recovering from the defeat of Napolean and his nephew(?) was trying to regain legitimacy as a ruler.
- Russia was very embarrassed by the loss and spent some years updating their military. Crimea has a long historical past as Russian and it wounded the populace loosing it.
Side note - Russia helped the North in the US Civil War by sending ships to help the blockade when England was close to siding with the South. Read Richard Poe for more info.
Conclusion - Reading this book seemed to be like the last 50 or more years, but the same policies and politics were happening 170 years ago to Russia.
England, and more recently,the US have been up to no good for a long, long time.
The perpetual warmongering and fear mongering amongst the elite is designed to do what? Enrich those who profit from war at our expense. I notice that these tiny NATO countries are the most belligerent. I analyze this entire situation in a simple minded way. I do not want my relatives conscripted to fight any wars anywhere regardless of what happens there. If there’s a direct attack on US soil then Congress can declare war on the aggressor and we can figure out where to go from there.
If Sunak is bailing because he doesn’t want to deal with the oncoming mess of a Ukraine Russia war with significant escalation, then he is wise, or maybe duplicitous.
The US military can’t build a small pier for less than $300M that won’t break apart in rough seas. How are we supposed to defeat the Russians?
Sunak is a beta male who somehow managed to snag a billionaire's daughter, make 700 million in personal fortune and become Prime Minister (installed not elected)a mere 7 years after entering politics. Everything about him and his career so far suggests he takes instructions which he acts upon for handsome profit. He was instructed to call an election; by whom who can say.
Absolutely. We are caught between factions who have been vying for power for centuries. The difference now is we can see through the curtains and we realise what is going on and who these people really are. I cannot describe the utter sense of shock that reverberated through the U.K and EU establishment when we voted out of the bloc. That, followed by Trump killing off 8 years of Killary formed the catalyst for the acceleration of their plans and to which the Chinese and the Russians are now responding. I can't help but wonder how gently we would have been led down the path toward the global order if the population of the U.S and the U.K had not bolted the way they did in 2016. We really did a number on them and the only thing we can do is keep going to the other side and hope and pray enough people wake up.
What's worse? Shuddering or pervasive fear or palpable trepidation? Or maybe the horror of "losing our democracy"? I mean, in a perhaps weird way this amuses me. This is what happens when the narrative train has broken loose from the tracks of reality, preceding a wreck. Glad I am not one of them but I am glad to see that reality is perhaps intruding on their hallucinations.
Yup, and the lengths they go to describe a cold sweat! Anyone could see it coming! Great image of the narrative Southern Pacific leaving the tracks of reality! Remember Groucho calling out “timber!” As he fed wood into the locomotive careening out of control?!!
Tucker has a fascinating interview with Jeffrey Sachs. I did not realize Victoria Neuland worked for Dick Cheney. Or how long term the campaign against Russia has been.
Thanks for the link. The history of the west being against Russia goes back a long ways obviously. I didn't know Nuland worked for Cheney, either; so I guess birds of an insane feather flock together.
I disagree. You DID know how long term this was. Because you read it here. Most recently in the Macgregor/Hickson interview. I've always said this goes back to the Clinton years, IOW, before the Cheney admin.
I saw Clinton as more money driven. Contributions driving a lot of his policies, with a bit of ideology (amazing political job on motor voter registration). Kosovo I thought was driven more by KSA/Gulf State funding. Sachs makes the point a lot was driven by Madeleine Albright, who he labels a neocon. And I did not realize the bipartisan service of Victoria Nuland, including under Cheney and Hillary.
Madeline Albright: you mean Paul Simon's "you looked me over and I guess you thought I was Albright; all right in a sort of a limited way for an off night." (bad paraphrase of a song from Graceland)
Or the secretary of state for Bill Clinton's second term (so yes, it goes back to the Clinton years).
Great comment. On a simplistic level and in retrospect I think it is that the foreign policy establishment had been educated that everything was all about being anti-Russia. They could not and still cannot conceive of any other approach after the end of the cold war. Their careers depended on their educational credentials and the validity of that view. Of course there are also many with a personal vendetta such as Nuland. Amazing and horrifying that after 30 years our foreign policy establishment still has not adapted to realities. Now I will go and explore the Sachs link - thank you very much!
I've always thought that 2024 was going to be one of those pivotal years where everything changes, like 1492 or 1914. And we're not even half way through! Will some adults somewhere step up to the plate and stop all this? I don't see many candidates.
Remember when playground rough and tumble got a little too rough and the Mum's (Mom's) would step in and clip some ears? What's the geopolitical equivalent of that?
I would apply the thumbscrews to the Generals regarding who gave them their marching orders. This is critical. Millions of lives and untold suffering await, and merely passing it off as ‘Oh, it’s the deep state again’, is cowardice, considering what future generations and their FOIA’s will reveal, and how we should have proceeded in exposing the malignant roots of these drives to war.
I finished a fascinating history of the Crimean War by Orlando Figes recently. Some of the points made were on a post here a couple of weeks ago. Salient points -
- England has made an absolute mess of things since defeating Napoleon (my take)
- The Crimean War was the first war where the press had a huge role in determining the policy of a country
- England had an enormous fear of Russia, because of the size of its' army as mentioned a couple of weeks ago.
- A major fear was Russia going thru the 'stans, etc." to take over India. Side note, read Wilbur Smith's trilogy of Cecil Rhodes and the history of Rhodesia. Brutal about the East India Company running the Brithish government in the past.
- England got France to go along with the invasion of Crimea because France was still recovering from the defeat of Napolean and his nephew(?) was trying to regain legitimacy as a ruler.
- Russia was very embarrassed by the loss and spent some years updating their military. Crimea has a long historical past as Russian and it wounded the populace loosing it.
Side note - Russia helped the North in the US Civil War by sending ships to help the blockade when England was close to siding with the South. Read Richard Poe for more info.
Conclusion - Reading this book seemed to be like the last 50 or more years, but the same policies and politics were happening 170 years ago to Russia.
England, and more recently,the US have been up to no good for a long, long time.
The perpetual warmongering and fear mongering amongst the elite is designed to do what? Enrich those who profit from war at our expense. I notice that these tiny NATO countries are the most belligerent. I analyze this entire situation in a simple minded way. I do not want my relatives conscripted to fight any wars anywhere regardless of what happens there. If there’s a direct attack on US soil then Congress can declare war on the aggressor and we can figure out where to go from there.
If Sunak is bailing because he doesn’t want to deal with the oncoming mess of a Ukraine Russia war with significant escalation, then he is wise, or maybe duplicitous.
The US military can’t build a small pier for less than $300M that won’t break apart in rough seas. How are we supposed to defeat the Russians?
Sunak is a beta male who somehow managed to snag a billionaire's daughter, make 700 million in personal fortune and become Prime Minister (installed not elected)a mere 7 years after entering politics. Everything about him and his career so far suggests he takes instructions which he acts upon for handsome profit. He was instructed to call an election; by whom who can say.
So duplicity then?
Absolutely. We are caught between factions who have been vying for power for centuries. The difference now is we can see through the curtains and we realise what is going on and who these people really are. I cannot describe the utter sense of shock that reverberated through the U.K and EU establishment when we voted out of the bloc. That, followed by Trump killing off 8 years of Killary formed the catalyst for the acceleration of their plans and to which the Chinese and the Russians are now responding. I can't help but wonder how gently we would have been led down the path toward the global order if the population of the U.S and the U.K had not bolted the way they did in 2016. We really did a number on them and the only thing we can do is keep going to the other side and hope and pray enough people wake up.
We’re shuddering, and the Dems are feeling “palpable trepidation…” a little late, no guys?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/pervasive-fear-has-settled-dems-are-absolutely-freaking-out-over-biden
What's worse? Shuddering or pervasive fear or palpable trepidation? Or maybe the horror of "losing our democracy"? I mean, in a perhaps weird way this amuses me. This is what happens when the narrative train has broken loose from the tracks of reality, preceding a wreck. Glad I am not one of them but I am glad to see that reality is perhaps intruding on their hallucinations.
Yup, and the lengths they go to describe a cold sweat! Anyone could see it coming! Great image of the narrative Southern Pacific leaving the tracks of reality! Remember Groucho calling out “timber!” As he fed wood into the locomotive careening out of control?!!
Yup - totally agree…
Tucker has a fascinating interview with Jeffrey Sachs. I did not realize Victoria Neuland worked for Dick Cheney. Or how long term the campaign against Russia has been.
https://sashastone.substack.com/p/tucker-with-jeffrey-sachs?
Thanks for the link. The history of the west being against Russia goes back a long ways obviously. I didn't know Nuland worked for Cheney, either; so I guess birds of an insane feather flock together.
I disagree. You DID know how long term this was. Because you read it here. Most recently in the Macgregor/Hickson interview. I've always said this goes back to the Clinton years, IOW, before the Cheney admin.
I think it goes back even further to papa bush. He and his posse were probably scheming during the Reagan years
I saw Clinton as more money driven. Contributions driving a lot of his policies, with a bit of ideology (amazing political job on motor voter registration). Kosovo I thought was driven more by KSA/Gulf State funding. Sachs makes the point a lot was driven by Madeleine Albright, who he labels a neocon. And I did not realize the bipartisan service of Victoria Nuland, including under Cheney and Hillary.
Madeline Albright: you mean Paul Simon's "you looked me over and I guess you thought I was Albright; all right in a sort of a limited way for an off night." (bad paraphrase of a song from Graceland)
Or the secretary of state for Bill Clinton's second term (so yes, it goes back to the Clinton years).
Great comment. On a simplistic level and in retrospect I think it is that the foreign policy establishment had been educated that everything was all about being anti-Russia. They could not and still cannot conceive of any other approach after the end of the cold war. Their careers depended on their educational credentials and the validity of that view. Of course there are also many with a personal vendetta such as Nuland. Amazing and horrifying that after 30 years our foreign policy establishment still has not adapted to realities. Now I will go and explore the Sachs link - thank you very much!
I've always thought that 2024 was going to be one of those pivotal years where everything changes, like 1492 or 1914. And we're not even half way through! Will some adults somewhere step up to the plate and stop all this? I don't see many candidates.
Remember when playground rough and tumble got a little too rough and the Mum's (Mom's) would step in and clip some ears? What's the geopolitical equivalent of that?
cut their achilles tendon.
The only person I can think of is God.
Never underestimate the ability of stupid people to do stupid things.
Stupid, evil people, Yance. We seem to think that those two qualities are mutually exclusive, but they aren't.
Yeah, thank goodness it is Putin standing on the other bank. That is the reason that y'all are not radioactive cinders at the moment.
I think that there are plenty of off ramps. But, America is agreement-incapable.