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johnycomelately's avatar

Well obviously the next best option they have is to assassinate Zhou. If a Palestinian activist does it they kill two birds with one stone.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Shipwrecked has this exactly right. It's one of the things I said on the podcast (will link when available). GOPers need to demand resignation for inciting and enabling assassination attempt that led to multiple shootings. If not, go for impeachment for same reasons. Time for Dems to own the hotseat.

Shipwreckedcrew @shipwreckedcrew

On Monday morning there should be an investigation opened in the House of DHS/USSS/Sec. Mayorkas.

If it is true that the Trump USSS detail has asked for more resources and was denied, impeach Mayorkas the following day.

If there was any contact with the WH and the WH concurred in not providing additional resources, impeach Biden too.

Dare Schumer and the Dems in the Senate to vote to not remove them.

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dissonant1's avatar

I would love to see it. Biden would likely not be impeached but he could be eviscerated. I am afraid that what we are going to hear in the House DHS hearings on the particulars around the assassination attempt is more of the "I can't comment because it is a currently open investigation" nonsense and stonewalling.

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dissonant1's avatar

Reaganesque! Really pretty incredible but very heartening to see!

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Storms69's avatar

https://www.wpxi.com/news/politics/local-officer/GA4DQ3NPSRAFPCSWYHZBPUNAD4/?outputType=amp

According to this local news story, an officer came face to face with the gunman, the gunman raised his weapon and the officer retreated. Then the gunman took his shots.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Here's someone who agrees with me:

https://redstate.com/wardclark/2024/07/14/aftermath-theres-little-point-in-replacing-joe-biden-now-n2176841

As far as the 2024 presidential election is concerned, it is something of an understatement to point out that the attempt on the life of former President Donald Trump has 1) sucked all the oxygen out of the room and 2) made the Joe Biden campaign effort irrelevant. And on Sunday morning, only hours after the attempt on Donald Trump's life, some of the president's allies are pointing out that there is little point in any further attempt to replace Joe Biden at the head of the Democrat ticket.

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dissonant1's avatar

To prove the point: https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2024/07/14/biden-harris-pivots-cancels-scheduled-campaign-stops-after-attempted-assassination-of-donald-trump-n2176849

If they can't demonize Trump (which at this time anyone with a sense of decency - i.e., normies - would see as totally insensitive) it seems like they don't have a whole lot to run on.

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SMH's avatar
Jul 14Edited

No question that this development adds a new dimension to the election and given the Democrats penchant for “never letting a crisis go to waste”, it will be interesting to see exactly how they utilize this event.

If things weren’t perilous enough before, this certainly turned the dial up a couple of notches.

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dissonant1's avatar

Interesting ideas. I think this does complicate the removal of Zhou but it will not surprise me if it still happens. From the Republican perspective, I would think they still would like Zhou to be the candidate. This is for the simple reason that with Zhou, no one will believe it if he "wins" the election against Trump. Everyone will know it was stolen, even Democrats. If they choose another candidate and that candidate "wins" the Dems can better claim that the election was legit.

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ML's avatar

Pure speculation, but Zhou (and handlers/donors/vested interests - even perhaps Zelensky) were in a post-debate nightmare and needed to turn the spotlight elsewhere - no more talk about ineptitude, dementia, 8-4 business hours and roaming. If in fact they provoked this new crisis, set it up, encouraged it - and there are signs - then I think this attempt to take out Trump once and for all will backfire hugely. As usual, another major screwup for the Dims which results in the Donald unbound…I do still pray for his safety -

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dissonant1's avatar

His opponents were running out of ways to take Trump out of the race. The lawfare cases (excepting the NY case where sentencing is pending) are a shambles, the Supreme Court rulings on Presidential Immunity, Zhou's dementia problems, and Trump's increasingly favorable polling all could be seen as encouraging the blob to make this attempt at this time. Unfortunately I would not put it past them to try again before the election and inauguration.

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Jeff Martineau's avatar

Mark, you have asked previously (paraphrasing) “who has been in charge of America?” This relevant now.

For the Dems/Globalists/Establishment (however one wants to describe this) “who is in charge” has been “in charge,” or driving, since say the early 1970s, has been the Media, or the Media created by the TELEVISION paradigm (imagination/fantasy/manipulation). So the answer to what happens for the Dems between now and Inauguration day is: what does Television want? These people are still in that paradigm and still think it matters, even if they no longer believe what they say. So what does Television/Media/Globalism want in the next few months? Answer that and you have the answer to the thought experiment. The answer wont change the outcome, Trump wins if alive and Globalism continues its slow death, but Media is driving that bus.

To borrow from a line from the movie Double Indemnity, “the end of the line is the cemetery.”

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John B's avatar

I wonder if they won’t take out Zhou now and blame it on OrangeManBad’s revenge.

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Bob C.'s avatar

My thoughts exactly. What better way to take out a member of your own party than to stir up the other side until "one of those MAGA crazies" takes him out for you. You get Biden out and plenty of sympathy votes as well,

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Amanda R's avatar

Ooh - that's interesting!

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Steghorn21's avatar

It's going to be interesting seeing the next bunch of polls after this. I suspect this will push Trump's figures into the stratosphere. If so, all he has to do now is survive until November. Please, Donnie, hire you own protection!

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Private security doesn't have the LE authority and powers that USSS does. Not an option for these situations.

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St's avatar
Jul 15Edited

I saw Jeff Bezos at a lake I fish and he had at least 4 speeds boats with what looked like special operators flanking his yacht by about 100 yards. I'm 100% sure they'd take out threats.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Those were not LE personnel--private security, to "special operators", who would be LE. Their ability to "take out threats" is limited by local laws, usually having to do with protecting against an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm. They are held to a higher standard than LE personnel. Nor are they able to conduct searches of persons in the area, stop and frisk, demand ID, other preventive procedures that would be routine for LE. Private security is not a reasonable alternative to adequate SS protection.

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Amanda R's avatar

True but what about those dark arts security firms made up of ex military. I'd like to think Trump is employing some B.A.M.Fs in the background - never seen, not on the books but very efficient.

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Steghorn21's avatar

That's a bad lookout for Trump, then, and reduces his chances of survival to November

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The Immigrant's avatar

Mark,

I cannot find my previous comments to your post about assassination attempt on Fico. I wrote something like this: “Fico first, who is next? Orban or Trump?”

Dems are party of violence, every knows it. Cant wait for Luongo’s Sunday Market report to see/hear what he has to say.

Stay Safe!

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Steghorn21's avatar

Luongo's too busy writing love poems to Tulsi Gabbard.

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Amanda R's avatar

Lol! I noticed that!

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Mark Wauck's avatar

And have you noticed how allergic he's become to talking about the Middle East? It's almost as if he wants to avoid offending clients.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Yeah. That point may have been reached.

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Amanda R's avatar

Conservatives did exactly that in Britain a couple weeks ago. Don't know about the States but here I don't think they care if they are in opposition for a few years - it's almost like a well paid break for them.

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Kieran Telo's avatar

Yes, they weren't even subtle about it. The most coherent and gracious action of Sunak's time in office was his concession of defeat and congrats to Labour. He had a bit of time to rehearse of course ;-)

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