I haven't had time yet to read the Unz article on the Israeli assignation campaign against Pakistan, so my apologies if some of the information in this ZH story I saw this morning crosses with that article. ZH story talks about Israel and India discussing a joint operation in 1980 to destroy Pakistan's nuclear facility.
Israeli & NY Times commentator, Ronan Bergman (Yedioth Ahoronot):
“The need for the series of assassinations last week first emerged as a thought last September, among senior officials in Unit 8200, the research division in the Intelligence Directorate, the Mossad, and other parts of the system. The trigger was the defeat inflicted by the IDF on Hezbollah, followed by the successful attack on Iran and the destruction of its air defence system in October, followed in December by the collapse of the Assad regime in Damascus and the destruction of its air defence system by the IDF. The sequence of events led many senior Israeli officials to believe that an unprecedented opportunity had arisen, a window of a lifetime, to attack Iran… And so the beheading forum, which decided the fates of scientists thousands of miles away, sat down and decided who would be ranked at level A – the highest importance – and who at levels B, C or D – the lowest”.
It's said you can't change the spots on a leopard.
Ronen Bergman's The Secret War With Iran (2007) offers important insights into zionists's passion to return Iran to its preMullah state: Jews were as deeply embedded in all aspects of Iranian government & commerce as they are now in USA. They want to return to that situation of deep control over Iran.
Bergman explained that Israelis "sold sold sold" weapons to Khomeini's gov. thru Iran Iraq war because "Israelis had learned that to be involved in weapons sales placed one in direct connection to decision-making."
Further, Israel "made money hand over fist" without any concern whatsoever of the ethics of the matter, and "hoped the Iranians and Iraqis would kill each other."
After skewering liar extraordinaire John Bolton, Danny Davis takes JD Vance to task for talking so much nonsense about the ceasefire and about what USrael accomplished in Iran. Vance is turning out to be as big a liar as the rest of them. What a disappointment.
The last few years (and weeks) feel like a turning point for Israel's behaviour and Israel's standing in the world. They have become much more transparently aggesssive in what moral people would consider to be wholey immoral actions. Genocide. Sneak attacks. False flag attacks against itself (obvious to anyone with good intelligence). Flagrant coersion and manipulation of elected politians in the US. I could go on. Is this because they feel increasingly unbridled? Or because they feel increasingly desperate? Or because their internal leadership and public attitudes have changed?
I have an itching feeling that I might be naive in this, but it seems like Israel's standing in the world has to be changing, having been unmasked as enthusiastic perpetrators of immorality. Sure, you won't see it on either Fox or MSNBC (or in Time or Atlantic Coucil rags), but you sure see it at UNZ or Judge Nap or even in this little place. I feel that, hope that, public opinion towards supporting Israel in their increasinng immorality will trickle up to politicians and governments and that the experiment of a allowing a God-chosen immoral Nation of genocidal theives will........
Better stop now.....I feel a Chosen One Enforcer watching me from the other side of this flat screen.
I would even go further and say that Israel is living on borrowed time. Unfortunately, they will still inflict a lot of pain and misery on their neighbours before they are done, but I don't see how they survive long term. All the indicators are against them: demographics, military, economic and moral. It will be interesting to see when (or if) Netanyahu lifts the travel ban how many Israelis leave. It sounds as though most of the decent and intelligent ones have already gone.
He is really unhappy with Israel because as soon as a ceasefire was struck, Israel used the last hours of the war to massively attack Iran.
Then, one single missile from Iran appears to have been shot after the ceasefire - it landed nowhere and Trump says it may have been shot by mistake - and Israel is using it to restart the war and destroy the ceasefire Trump negotiated. And by that, also destroy Trump's credibility.
This is exactly what Israel did with all of the ceasefires in Gaza and Lebanon. It treats all ceasefires as one-sided - the other side has to stop fighting, while Israel is above the law and above all ceasefires.
Trump is also starting to discover the core of the problem: ISRAEL DOESN'T WANT PEACE AND DOESN'T WANT TO ALLOW THE US TO STAY OUT OF THE WAR ISRAEL UNNECESSARILY STARTED.
If Trump wants peace and for the US and Iran to strike a deal, he has no choice but to FORCE Israel to accept that America has to put America first.
If he doesn't, Netanyahu will make sure that Trump puts Israel first and drags the US into an endless war with Iran.
“Trump is also starting to discover the core of the problem: ISRAEL DOESN'T WANT PEACE AND DOESN'T WANT TO ALLOW THE US TO STAY OUT OF THE WAR ISRAEL UNNECESSARILY STARTED.”
If Trump is only “starting to discover” this, he’s dumber than many of us assumed.
"If Trump wants peace and for the US and Iran to strike a deal, he has no choice but to FORCE Israel to accept that America has to put America first." I don't believe he has the cojones. I hope I'm wrong.
Trump’s remark that “they don’t know what the f**k they’re doing” is rich coming from him. His Jekyll and Hyde routine is beyond tiresome at this point.
No ceasefire can hold: Israel is prepared to bomb Iran that is prepared to bomb Israel.
Iran accepted a ceasefire without any formal agreement or defined terms—merely a temporarily cessation of hostilities, with no conditions, no limitations, and no commitments on either side.
Netanyahu needs war to stay in office. Let's see if he honours the ceasefire. And if I were Iran, I wouldn't wait a minute to get those Russian and Chinese AD systems in place.
Let's see where this ceasefire goes. Israel doesn't have a good record on keeping them. However, whatever happens next, this is a massive defeat for Israel. They have failed to achieve their key war aims: regime change in Teheran, break up of the country into Syria-like chaos and destruction of Iran's ability to enrich uranium. Simply by surviving, and despite terrible losses, the mullahs have won. They will also now be the toast of the Arab world for having stood up to the US and Israel. And now it gets even worse for Israel. Iran will now take those much-missed Russian and Chinese AD missiles and go full tilt for nukes. As a commenter said elsewhere, Iran can either be Libya or it can be North Korea. As for the Israelis, I hope they have enough sense to drag Netanyahu the short distance from the Knesset to the local jail.
Why closer to India? Very important to see the space India is craving out for itself and Modi’s bow towards Trump. See the peace between India and Pakistan and the peace in the Congo.
Has Trump undercut many over the last few days? Trump said in the ‘16 campaign that he was the best thing for Israel and the Jews, at a time when most Jews in the US voted Dem. What might he mean by this?
The notion that he is captured or simply doing the bidding of the “Jews” or “Israel” is too simplistic, even with many in his family being Jews.
We don’t live in the world where television matters anymore, for serious people. Is Trump using his “authority” to push people and places onto a different track for a different time/paradigm?
The US’s strength is economy. We lack moral authority. Is Trump going down this road? Might this be why Russia and China are pretty quiet these days about everything except Ukraine?
Remember that there is literally no one in the West for Trump to obviously work with, so a different course to draw more to the US?
It is easy to point at Israel and the Jews…but…one can argue it has been the Brits that have been underneath most of what has destroyed the West.
At the G7 summit in Canada, Modi pretty much told Trump to his face — and in every other leader's presence — that Trump's claim of arranging the ceasefire between India and Pakistan was bullshit.
Since that summit, Modi has stated this multiple times in public rallies.
The Indian government has no patience left for Trump or his nonsense.
In his latest article, Alastair Crooke excerpts what Israelis say when they are excitedly talking to each other about successful assassinations, e.g. Ronen Bergman for Ynet,
"Exclusive: Behind the scenes of Operation Narnia to eliminate Iran's top nuclear scientists
Military Intelligence ranked more than 100 key atomic researchers, according to four levels: A - the most important - B, C, and D. Then came the opening blow of the war, and the names at the top of the list were eliminated one after the other"
Narnia?
Like calling their Palestinian targeting program The Gospel; the little thrill of repurposing the title of Christian narratives.
I haven't had time yet to read the Unz article on the Israeli assignation campaign against Pakistan, so my apologies if some of the information in this ZH story I saw this morning crosses with that article. ZH story talks about Israel and India discussing a joint operation in 1980 to destroy Pakistan's nuclear facility.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/why-not-islamic-bomb-how-israel-planned-failed-stop-pakistan-going-nuclear
Israeli & NY Times commentator, Ronan Bergman (Yedioth Ahoronot):
“The need for the series of assassinations last week first emerged as a thought last September, among senior officials in Unit 8200, the research division in the Intelligence Directorate, the Mossad, and other parts of the system. The trigger was the defeat inflicted by the IDF on Hezbollah, followed by the successful attack on Iran and the destruction of its air defence system in October, followed in December by the collapse of the Assad regime in Damascus and the destruction of its air defence system by the IDF. The sequence of events led many senior Israeli officials to believe that an unprecedented opportunity had arisen, a window of a lifetime, to attack Iran… And so the beheading forum, which decided the fates of scientists thousands of miles away, sat down and decided who would be ranked at level A – the highest importance – and who at levels B, C or D – the lowest”.
What a lovely bunch of people!
It's said you can't change the spots on a leopard.
Ronen Bergman's The Secret War With Iran (2007) offers important insights into zionists's passion to return Iran to its preMullah state: Jews were as deeply embedded in all aspects of Iranian government & commerce as they are now in USA. They want to return to that situation of deep control over Iran.
Bergman explained that Israelis "sold sold sold" weapons to Khomeini's gov. thru Iran Iraq war because "Israelis had learned that to be involved in weapons sales placed one in direct connection to decision-making."
Further, Israel "made money hand over fist" without any concern whatsoever of the ethics of the matter, and "hoped the Iranians and Iraqis would kill each other."
Preview pages: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Secret_War_with_Iran/NkxZcHL1xdYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover
Access to the Unz piece is being blocked by connection issues.
works for me just fine: https://www.unz.com/runz/zionist-israel-as-the-assassination-nation/
Same result:This site can’t be reached
The connection was reset.
Try:
Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Connectivity Diagnostics
ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
the problem is on your end.
That is what you get when you use free public wifi at fast food restaurants.
After skewering liar extraordinaire John Bolton, Danny Davis takes JD Vance to task for talking so much nonsense about the ceasefire and about what USrael accomplished in Iran. Vance is turning out to be as big a liar as the rest of them. What a disappointment.
https://www.youtube.com/live/vwIRNO06IxA?si=8Xj45VQqjGYjV-z3
Nice mascara, though.
Absolutely.
The last few years (and weeks) feel like a turning point for Israel's behaviour and Israel's standing in the world. They have become much more transparently aggesssive in what moral people would consider to be wholey immoral actions. Genocide. Sneak attacks. False flag attacks against itself (obvious to anyone with good intelligence). Flagrant coersion and manipulation of elected politians in the US. I could go on. Is this because they feel increasingly unbridled? Or because they feel increasingly desperate? Or because their internal leadership and public attitudes have changed?
I have an itching feeling that I might be naive in this, but it seems like Israel's standing in the world has to be changing, having been unmasked as enthusiastic perpetrators of immorality. Sure, you won't see it on either Fox or MSNBC (or in Time or Atlantic Coucil rags), but you sure see it at UNZ or Judge Nap or even in this little place. I feel that, hope that, public opinion towards supporting Israel in their increasinng immorality will trickle up to politicians and governments and that the experiment of a allowing a God-chosen immoral Nation of genocidal theives will........
Better stop now.....I feel a Chosen One Enforcer watching me from the other side of this flat screen.
I would even go further and say that Israel is living on borrowed time. Unfortunately, they will still inflict a lot of pain and misery on their neighbours before they are done, but I don't see how they survive long term. All the indicators are against them: demographics, military, economic and moral. It will be interesting to see when (or if) Netanyahu lifts the travel ban how many Israelis leave. It sounds as though most of the decent and intelligent ones have already gone.
Trita Parsi @tparsi

WOW!
The longer video in which Trump says Israel and Iran "don't know what the FUCK they are doing" is really important to watch.
https://x.com/i/status/1937480651868881310
He is really unhappy with Israel because as soon as a ceasefire was struck, Israel used the last hours of the war to massively attack Iran.
Then, one single missile from Iran appears to have been shot after the ceasefire - it landed nowhere and Trump says it may have been shot by mistake - and Israel is using it to restart the war and destroy the ceasefire Trump negotiated. And by that, also destroy Trump's credibility.
This is exactly what Israel did with all of the ceasefires in Gaza and Lebanon. It treats all ceasefires as one-sided - the other side has to stop fighting, while Israel is above the law and above all ceasefires.
Trump is also starting to discover the core of the problem: ISRAEL DOESN'T WANT PEACE AND DOESN'T WANT TO ALLOW THE US TO STAY OUT OF THE WAR ISRAEL UNNECESSARILY STARTED.
If Trump wants peace and for the US and Iran to strike a deal, he has no choice but to FORCE Israel to accept that America has to put America first.
If he doesn't, Netanyahu will make sure that Trump puts Israel first and drags the US into an endless war with Iran.
"One single missile from Iran appears to have been shot after the ceasefire." Hhhmmmm.
“Trump is also starting to discover the core of the problem: ISRAEL DOESN'T WANT PEACE AND DOESN'T WANT TO ALLOW THE US TO STAY OUT OF THE WAR ISRAEL UNNECESSARILY STARTED.”
If Trump is only “starting to discover” this, he’s dumber than many of us assumed.
"If Trump wants peace and for the US and Iran to strike a deal, he has no choice but to FORCE Israel to accept that America has to put America first." I don't believe he has the cojones. I hope I'm wrong.
Trump’s remark that “they don’t know what the f**k they’re doing” is rich coming from him. His Jekyll and Hyde routine is beyond tiresome at this point.
I suspect he didn't go to finishing school, did he?
Absolutely. The I'm-just-a-disinterested-bystander routine. Despicable.
Almost as bad as the incredible vitriol on the "conservative" websites right now. It's 2003 all over again.
Yes, especially since he was spewing the most bellicose rhetoric imaginable just a few days ago.
Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai
6h
No ceasefire can hold: Israel is prepared to bomb Iran that is prepared to bomb Israel.
Iran accepted a ceasefire without any formal agreement or defined terms—merely a temporarily cessation of hostilities, with no conditions, no limitations, and no commitments on either side.
Ceasefire spelt "resupply"
Somewhat interesting article. I note that the author is the only one besides myself who uses the term Jewish Nationalism.
https://ddgeopolitics.substack.com/p/the-united-states-and-israel-need
Looks like the ceasefire is folding already. Netanyahu is toast if peace breaks out.
slightly off-topic
Just suggested to Larry Johnson that he interview Dan Steinbock, "international expert on multipolar systems," author of The Fall of Israel
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/10/16/interview-with-dr-steinbock-on-his-book-the-fall-of-israel/
a generous preview is available
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Fall_of_Israel/NCQtEQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT22&printsec=frontcover
Netanyahu needs war to stay in office. Let's see if he honours the ceasefire. And if I were Iran, I wouldn't wait a minute to get those Russian and Chinese AD systems in place.
The unz article is highly disturbing, especially the targeting of U.S. citizens.
Let's see where this ceasefire goes. Israel doesn't have a good record on keeping them. However, whatever happens next, this is a massive defeat for Israel. They have failed to achieve their key war aims: regime change in Teheran, break up of the country into Syria-like chaos and destruction of Iran's ability to enrich uranium. Simply by surviving, and despite terrible losses, the mullahs have won. They will also now be the toast of the Arab world for having stood up to the US and Israel. And now it gets even worse for Israel. Iran will now take those much-missed Russian and Chinese AD missiles and go full tilt for nukes. As a commenter said elsewhere, Iran can either be Libya or it can be North Korea. As for the Israelis, I hope they have enough sense to drag Netanyahu the short distance from the Knesset to the local jail.
They brought chaos and destruction on themselves, a small taste of what they've inflicted on others for decades.
Indeed. The psychological blow will be immense. These are not the tough soldier-farmers of the 1950s but soft, Westernised metrosexuals like us.
Why closer to India? Very important to see the space India is craving out for itself and Modi’s bow towards Trump. See the peace between India and Pakistan and the peace in the Congo.
Has Trump undercut many over the last few days? Trump said in the ‘16 campaign that he was the best thing for Israel and the Jews, at a time when most Jews in the US voted Dem. What might he mean by this?
The notion that he is captured or simply doing the bidding of the “Jews” or “Israel” is too simplistic, even with many in his family being Jews.
We don’t live in the world where television matters anymore, for serious people. Is Trump using his “authority” to push people and places onto a different track for a different time/paradigm?
The US’s strength is economy. We lack moral authority. Is Trump going down this road? Might this be why Russia and China are pretty quiet these days about everything except Ukraine?
Remember that there is literally no one in the West for Trump to obviously work with, so a different course to draw more to the US?
It is easy to point at Israel and the Jews…but…one can argue it has been the Brits that have been underneath most of what has destroyed the West.
Rebuild happening?
Thanks for the posts Mark!
At the G7 summit in Canada, Modi pretty much told Trump to his face — and in every other leader's presence — that Trump's claim of arranging the ceasefire between India and Pakistan was bullshit.
Since that summit, Modi has stated this multiple times in public rallies.
The Indian government has no patience left for Trump or his nonsense.
Modi is like Erdogan: he needs to decide once and for all which side he is on.
He is not going to take sides. And he shouldn't.
I'm not sure a big nation can do that these days.
India will try to stay out of it. Success isn't guaranteed.
It's a great country, Shaunak, so I hope Modi can manage it!
In his latest article, Alastair Crooke excerpts what Israelis say when they are excitedly talking to each other about successful assassinations, e.g. Ronen Bergman for Ynet,
"Exclusive: Behind the scenes of Operation Narnia to eliminate Iran's top nuclear scientists
Military Intelligence ranked more than 100 key atomic researchers, according to four levels: A - the most important - B, C, and D. Then came the opening blow of the war, and the names at the top of the list were eliminated one after the other"
Narnia?
Like calling their Palestinian targeting program The Gospel; the little thrill of repurposing the title of Christian narratives.
Devilish of the Israelis to do, isn't it?