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Dao Gen's avatar

The JASSM missiles Trump is threatening to send to Ukraine don't seem to be topflight items. See: https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/the-redheaded-stepsister-goes-to It looks like the US is truly scraping the bottom of the barrel. These missiles should be no match for Russian AD missiles in Crimea and elsewhere. Trump seems to be sending these missiles simply to fool people in the US and improve his image as a tough guy. It's doubtful the Russians will be impressed. Ho-hum, more dramaturgy from the TV show host.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Even Simplicius is calling this a masterful move by Trump, palming off the neocons and placating the base. Sigh.

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Joe's avatar

"""" [NB: The language confused a lot of people. It’s not 100% tariffs on Russia, it’s tariffs on their fossil fuel importers. Which again, is China, India, Turkey, the EU…] """"

No One knows what it means Not Even Trump

If One Reads it Literally - It means If China India Turkey Europe were to purchase ANY

Russian Oil for their own use or for resale - US / Trump shall put a 100 % Tariff on ALL Goods Exported by them to the United States

Because US cannot tarrif a Russian oil sale they are not involved in it at all

So if China or India were to purchase ANY Russian Oil - and export a television to the US -

Trump is saying 100 % tariff on the television [ or any other product ]

there is no proportion to barrels or pricing or anything nothing makes sense its gibberish

------- No One knows what it means or what is intended other than an intent that no one buys Russia oil. For the US is not involved in the oil transaction so they have to tariff an unrelated product

it is so rediculous it is being ignored

Except for a clear message to Russia - you have 50 days to go at it - have fun

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

This guy is really playing with an empty hand and expecting a reaction beyond a yawn from Putin. This is not just a message to Russia it's a message to all humanity. You have 50 days to comply world or we will get really mad and blow things up!

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aDoozy's avatar

Earlier today July 14, Alex Christoforou posted his daily video report. Alex was cynical and he was down. He focused on Trump's looming announcement, and on the "US Foreign Policy President Graham's" bully-talk. Alex speculated that the US missiles to Ukraine would be a money-laundering process involving NATO :

Victim Trump, played by Putin. Graham, Sledgehammer Russia. Kellogg/Zelensky plan long range attack

https://theduran.com/victim-trump-played-by-putin-graham-sledgehammer-russia-kellogg-zelensky-plan-long-range-attack/

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NFO's avatar

I know we've picked apart AFU/NATO body-count propaganda here on many occasions already, but this latest, from Rubio, is probably the most patently-absurd yet. As Simplicius illustrates, the numbers are so inherently inconsistent, undeniably so, such that even the most-casual reader (let alone the SoS) would conclude that none of it adds up at all, even before applying full context of the current realities on the ground.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/rubio-claims-russia-suffered-100k

Sure, another MIC tool is shamelessly bullshitting us to no apparent end. Par for the course, but, when it goes to this level of absurdity, I wonder about the willingness to do so, given that the dust will ultimately settle and reveal, for the ages and in its fully glory, said tool's perfidy, at best, or, more likely, downright evil. Is it that these people: (i) are so high on their own supply that they actually believe (or have some pathological need to believe) such absurdities; (ii) view Russia as an all-or-nothing crusade, such that either we win categorically or, if not, that the dust that will ultimately settle will be radioactive anyway; or (iii) have been assured that there will be no consequences for their actions? Some combination of the foregoing? Something more banal like cash or being in the "cool kids" club? Whatever the answer(s), none of them gives me great comfort for the future direction of our country and world.

In McNamara's defense (to which I've never felt particularly inclined to jump), at least SOME effort was put into his infamous body-count approach, even if it ultimately proved to be a useless metric.

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Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

Probably Secretary Rubio wants to keep his neocon status, while doing what Mark says of Trump: "[He] increasingly appears to be engaged in a domestic juggling act while negotiating the geopolitical highwire. The other side is starting to look a long way off."

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NFO's avatar

That highwire act seems to have headed fully into an occluded cloud bank with no assurance that those holding the far end of the wire won't just let go. :-)

I guess we shall see.

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Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

Great! And I bet that nobody will tell Rubio that they've let go the wire

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rakyat kecil's avatar

Is it a lack of information or he is Trumps reciter in chief? The Tulsi situation re Iran would suggest a reciter of lines at pressers.

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Mark Hazard's avatar

Dogs Bark and the Caravan Moves On.

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Steghorn21's avatar

And the Russian caravan moves on.

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Vonu's avatar

There is no new production to be sold to anyone. That is why the Pentagon tried to get Trump to conserve their dwindling resources.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Mearsheimer: It's obvious they [Trump] don't know what they're doing. Sanctions aren't going to work--India and China will tell Trump to take a hike--Ukraine will be much worse off in 50 days.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

The first part of this video of Ritter w/ Judge Nap goes into the specifics of how the Patriots are being sent to Ukraine--apparently it's a CIA op.

https://youtu.be/A3RWAd7iYdw

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dissonant1's avatar

Wow is Ritter upset with Trump, calling him incredibly stupid and an idiot. Even Scott's dog got more agitated as the interview progressed. Not that this is shocking given current events; I just don't recall him being as vehemently disparaging of Trump before.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Larry Johnson is getting pretty vitriolic too.

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Elspeth Ham's avatar

See John Helmer's latest at Dances with Bears. Looks to me like the oligarchs want to return to business as usual over and above the heads of these wars. Meanwhile muddy the waters sufficient for Trump to play to his supporters, Putin to his. Whatever passes btw them will happen

behind 'closed doors'. Re the tariffs, maybe the US is trying to drive a wedge btw Russia and China even if success is only momentary aka one scratch at a time. Variations of normalization from one theatre to the next. Defang the resistance; go back to sleep.

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

The more focus on the bank mafia and Israels connections with Epstein and heir child rape, the more weird stuff will likely happen in the equally compromised media. Keep feeding the elite your mint cookies, like Monty Python fed Mr Creosote!

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Manul's avatar

“Trump is giving Russia 50 days to make a peace deal”.

TACO?

Never threaten anyone. Act.

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Steghorn21's avatar

This time he means it!

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Manul's avatar

Didn’t he give the Iranians 60 days for a deal?

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Mark Wauck's avatar

It's different with Putin and Xi. This threat approach has already backfired, but he keeps it up. Not good. Re Iran, just a reminder to the entire world not to believe a word he says.

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rakyat kecil's avatar

Should we ever have Mark?

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I used to think, back in Trump 1.0, that he would hold to his campaign promises out of political self interest. Back then he mostly did.

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rakyat kecil's avatar

Trump1 had his eye on a second term hence needed his MAGA mob now he only needs AIPAC etc it seems.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

An argument I read (Jeff Childers?) is the sanctions bill gives Trump the authority from Congress to decide where to apply the tariffs / sanctions, which nullifies some court challenges on the tariff issue.

With Trump there is lots of smoke and bluster, then the actual actions are much more minimal.

I don’t see anything the U.S. can do to stop Russia in Ukraine. The production rate of Patriot missiles is a joke, as is their effectiveness, and quantity available.

And the potential effectiveness of the Western long range missiles in Ukraine is questionable. So many wonder weapons that were supposed to turn the tide, and have not.

Interesting both Russia and Iran are deporting foreigners after recent attacks.

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Elle's avatar

Kiev found out what tide it did turn. This leaves no choice but for massive escalation. Foreign policy is not created or directed by a single U.S. president. It’s UK/US/ EU combined and enacted mainly by the U.S. but the power is within the group high power leaders decisions. Club of Rome, Chatham House, CFR. Make what you will of that. They do what benefits them. They want a NWO, their one world gov. US is not independent. Plans made in the 90’s after the fall of USSR. You’re either for it or against it.

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Steghorn21's avatar

It doesn't change the overall prognosis. Deep State forces are pushing us towards a conflict with BRICS.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I think you're right. It's true that Trump may be able to back out of most of this after 50 days, but here's the thing: The Russians could care less about the sanctions, although Trump could be pissing off China/India--just in principle, no matter what he does. He's setting himself up for failure in foreign policy, and we all know that every president eventually ends up being a foreign policy president.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Agreed, Mark. Loss in Ukraine - now unavoidable - will be very hard to sugar-coat for Trump. The question now is will he dig himself even deeper in a hole by going to the next level with Iran and China?

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