Representatives of the Russian Federation and the Ukrainian government are meeting today in Belarus for another round of negotiations. President Putin sent a very strong message to Ukraine ahead of those talks. On Saturday he gave an address in which he stated:
As usual, events often have a velocity of their own. While i still believe that the DC Cartel goaded Russia into attacking as part of a plan to distract from escalating revelations about the Scamdemic and the Death Jabs, it seems that Ukraine is quickly developing into a real showdown for the Globalistas.
Tom Luongo at GG&G is remarkably over the target it seems and brings the global financial Central bank connections that I'm not seeing elsewhere. (And usual good sources like Michael Yon seem to be getting sucked into the DC narrative). Zerohedge has a good mix of different takes. Alot to process.
But what we can say is that the markets are showing signs of imminent meltdown (see Zerohedge/ Rabobank today) w commodities poised to hit new highs, inflation on the verge of inflation we've never seen in the US, and a potential breakdown of international trade depending on how the CCP responds to the all-in economic war against Russia by the Globalistas, led by the DC gangsters.
Can the Globalistas win this if China sides w Russia and refuses to knuckle under to DC demands? For whatever reason the DC gangsters seem to have decided that Ukraine and this conflict w Russia is the hill they want to die on.
And this brings us to a truly horrifying prospect. These $^#^@:@ in DC think they're dealing with Libya Iraq Yeltsin Serbia Panama pip squeaks. Putin, fbow, isn't one and Russia can't back down now or knuckle under. So, we must ask ourselves, just how far will each side go to avoid losing? This is August 1914 territory. Even taking nukes off the table, Russia can inflict devastating damage to US power grids, internet services, and food and energy. The escalation can easily spin out of control overnight as each side responds.
And let's not forget the possibility that both the EU and CCP could benefit from a war that devastates the US and Russia, leaving them to pick up the pieces. It's not too far fetched for EU CCP to maneuver the US Russia into crippling actions. Who knows? Sock Puppet may be doing this very thing now. That would explain his refusal to restart US energy production, an easy measure.
There's also more in this than simply Russia/China. BRICS is one example. Iran. Other countries as well. Mexico, our neighbor to the south, is not on board. Presumably we forgot to twist their arms.
There's only one comclusion to draw. There is an active program to destroy the US. We can debate who is or isn't part of the plot and their ultimate aims but it's perfectly clear that they aim to bring us to collapse.
The madness continues. Apparently Zhou is going to announce a boycott of Russian oil this morning, with or without the Europeans. They WANT to sink the economy.
Put it this way--they want to suppress oil/gas to make us green, while crushing the middle class that has resisted the Prog agenda so far. They think they can blame this on Putin and get away with that gaslighting. This is why I'm just astonished to see commenters here who somehow think Putin is our enemy. They're being gaslighted. It's not a question of Putin being our friend--he's the head of a foreign state, not the USA--but it very much IS a question of recognizing our enemies that are the biggest threat.
"The archbishop said in his letter that Putin has been cornered by an aggressive NATO, backed by the United States, which is seeking to escalate the conflict for its own gains. “This is the trap for Russia just as much as Ukraine, using both to allow a globalist elite to bring its criminal plot to fruition,” Viganò wrote."
Thanks! A great primer on the events leading up to the conflict, the parties involved directly and indirectly, and the implications of it for the world. Archbishop Vigano is a man of principles, courage, and caring. There are not enough of them around anymore.
Can I get the last 5 years of accountability reports from NIH and Ecohealth? Nope. Biohazard included in the reports along w/Covid virus funding information. Woops.
Sock Puppet signs EO under pretext of ensuring that the "evil Russians" can't use crypto to evade sanctions. The real play however is to cut off crypto as a possible escape for anyone wanting to escape the planned digital currency or otherwise evade Big Brother surveillance.
Europe can't take Blinken's bullying anymore. So far today, leaders of UK, Germany & Netherlands have openly told Blinken "Nyet" apropos his move to sanction Russia's energy exports! Interestingly, Boris Johnson most forceful. Europe in revolt that US is wrecking their economies!
Note that these appear to be conditions for a ceasefire--not for a permanent peace:
Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations “in a moment” if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.
Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that
1. Ukraine cease military action,
2. change its constitution to enshrine neutrality,
3. acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and
4. recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.
Please read what I wrote: "these appear to be conditions for a ceasefire--not for a permanent peace". These demands/conditions are utterly unacceptable to the Neo-Nazis. Further, the first entry at the link speaks of denazification as an "ideal". That absence now is not "notable."
I am fed up with the whole thing. When I read of the fake photos and videos being used to sway our emotions and manipulate us into getting actively involved, I said “enough”. This is their conflict and it will play out. Hopefully, without the United States and its citizens.
I’ll add something more… With all respect to Mark and the others who are trying diligently to bring us good analysis, we do not have access to enough information - real information - to have informed opinions. We’re just speculating as are so many others. An exercise in futility.
There's a simple shortcut: whatever the (well aware of the hard facts) Western propagandists tell you, believe the opposite. It's a good strategy - fails sometimes (we assumed Russia wouldn't invade at all due to this) but overall it's a fantastic way of knowing what's happenning.
My point, AC, is that we are reading opinions. We really don’t have much in the way of facts. Neither do those opinion pundits or bloggers or media analysts. And if and when we get facts, will we know that they are facts? What will we do with or about them?
Not sure that's entirely fair. Certainly is a lot of speculation but there is a big difference between informed speculation and SWAGs and the kind of blatant propaganda we're seeing run rampant in media now. For example, i don't need to have direct access to battlefield reports to discern lies coming from the SPOTUS or the dc gangsters, or make inferences from the type and volume of those lies. All of us are called on to make speculations and decisions on all sorts of things without more than circumstantial or second hand data. We rely on our experience, our gut, the track record of those claiming to have information. We avoid dogmatism but we have some pretty good reads on what's going on even without alot of data. Hardly an exercise in futility.
Some things turn out to be far beyond our power to deal with. So fine. We are informed. But by others who don’t have truly inside information. Who ahsre their opinions. So we can play laptop commando or we can relax a bit and watch what happens. What action plan do you as an “informed” person have?
It's 2022. The information IS the action plan in an Info War. The Information has been the battle since Goebbels and the advent of serious mass marketing. Most of us have fallen prey to the subtle and not so subtle info campaigns our whole lives. So trying to sort out the grains of truth from the blizzard of BS is one of the most important functions of this and other blogs and the comment sections. And the commenters here are very good at sifting and presenting different viewpoints. This isn't a choir rehearsal. It may seem to others chaotic or random opinions thrown around, but if we succeed in helping each other spot the propaganda (if nothing else) it's a valuable effort. Looks like that's not your deal, Bebe. Fine. Relax as you say and chime in when you get bored of watching. Don't disparage the group. I'm sure you've got good insights to share.
GU, those who have been here as long as I have know that I have never disparaged this group. . Mark provides an excellent forum. . We all have our opinions. I stated mine. You appear to be seeking consensus for yours.
You mean the kind of "anti-war" protests in my hometown Chicago yesterday where protesters took to Michigan ave. clamering for "No Fly Zones" when they feel their "informed" enough to call for this based on MSM and NEO-Con's when in fact it's really a "war cry"?
Thanks, Steve. My view, for the record, at the time of the Iraq war was that it was a war to control the flow of gas to Europe by providing the US with a permanent and massive military presence athwart the routes.
1. Yes, Russia miscalculated that the Ukrainian army--the non-Neo Nazi parts--would desert en masse. That hasn't happened. They knew there would be a fight with the Neo-Nazis who have been recruited and trained by the CIA, so they knew this would take more than a few days. That's why their forces are so large. However, the failure so far of mass desertion has made more urban areas into centers of resistance.
2. No, the Russian military isn't "sooo bad". They're not making war on the Ukrainian people--which wouldn't be so terribly different than us invading Canada and leveling Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver without regard for civilian casualties--the way we've done in other countries. They want a friendly Ukraine, and they respect Ukraine's role in Russian history and culture.
3. Russia doesn't match up with us conventionally, but they have geographical and political factors on their side that prevent the US from bringing its full force to bear--thus giving Russia regional parity. They also have select weapons systems, especially hypersonic missiles, that give them an advantage for the time being that can force us to back off from a full war.
I assume that Blinken is trying to sucker the Poles and/or Romanians into provoking a Russian strike, as a ploy to try to keep the Euros in line with our policy.
As usual, events often have a velocity of their own. While i still believe that the DC Cartel goaded Russia into attacking as part of a plan to distract from escalating revelations about the Scamdemic and the Death Jabs, it seems that Ukraine is quickly developing into a real showdown for the Globalistas.
Tom Luongo at GG&G is remarkably over the target it seems and brings the global financial Central bank connections that I'm not seeing elsewhere. (And usual good sources like Michael Yon seem to be getting sucked into the DC narrative). Zerohedge has a good mix of different takes. Alot to process.
But what we can say is that the markets are showing signs of imminent meltdown (see Zerohedge/ Rabobank today) w commodities poised to hit new highs, inflation on the verge of inflation we've never seen in the US, and a potential breakdown of international trade depending on how the CCP responds to the all-in economic war against Russia by the Globalistas, led by the DC gangsters.
Can the Globalistas win this if China sides w Russia and refuses to knuckle under to DC demands? For whatever reason the DC gangsters seem to have decided that Ukraine and this conflict w Russia is the hill they want to die on.
And this brings us to a truly horrifying prospect. These $^#^@:@ in DC think they're dealing with Libya Iraq Yeltsin Serbia Panama pip squeaks. Putin, fbow, isn't one and Russia can't back down now or knuckle under. So, we must ask ourselves, just how far will each side go to avoid losing? This is August 1914 territory. Even taking nukes off the table, Russia can inflict devastating damage to US power grids, internet services, and food and energy. The escalation can easily spin out of control overnight as each side responds.
And let's not forget the possibility that both the EU and CCP could benefit from a war that devastates the US and Russia, leaving them to pick up the pieces. It's not too far fetched for EU CCP to maneuver the US Russia into crippling actions. Who knows? Sock Puppet may be doing this very thing now. That would explain his refusal to restart US energy production, an easy measure.
There's also more in this than simply Russia/China. BRICS is one example. Iran. Other countries as well. Mexico, our neighbor to the south, is not on board. Presumably we forgot to twist their arms.
There's only one comclusion to draw. There is an active program to destroy the US. We can debate who is or isn't part of the plot and their ultimate aims but it's perfectly clear that they aim to bring us to collapse.
"...both of which the Democrat party benefit and are profiting from..."
i think you spelled Uniparty wrong.
The madness continues. Apparently Zhou is going to announce a boycott of Russian oil this morning, with or without the Europeans. They WANT to sink the economy.
Put it this way--they want to suppress oil/gas to make us green, while crushing the middle class that has resisted the Prog agenda so far. They think they can blame this on Putin and get away with that gaslighting. This is why I'm just astonished to see commenters here who somehow think Putin is our enemy. They're being gaslighted. It's not a question of Putin being our friend--he's the head of a foreign state, not the USA--but it very much IS a question of recognizing our enemies that are the biggest threat.
This is interesting.
https://religionnews.com/2022/03/07/vigano-vatican-critics-blames-deep-state-for-ukraine-war-citing-covid-19-measures/
"The archbishop said in his letter that Putin has been cornered by an aggressive NATO, backed by the United States, which is seeking to escalate the conflict for its own gains. “This is the trap for Russia just as much as Ukraine, using both to allow a globalist elite to bring its criminal plot to fruition,” Viganò wrote."
Haven't read the whole thing yet. It's longgggg.
https://www.marcotosatti.com/2022/03/07/declaration-of-msgr-carlo-maria-vigano-on-the-russia-ukraine-crisis/
Quite comprehensive.
Thanks! A great primer on the events leading up to the conflict, the parties involved directly and indirectly, and the implications of it for the world. Archbishop Vigano is a man of principles, courage, and caring. There are not enough of them around anymore.
Can I get the last 5 years of accountability reports from NIH and Ecohealth? Nope. Biohazard included in the reports along w/Covid virus funding information. Woops.
Breaking on Zerohedge... I wonder if this is part of scam being played here w Ukraine?
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/cryptos-slide-news-biden-sign-crypto-executive-order-week
Sock Puppet signs EO under pretext of ensuring that the "evil Russians" can't use crypto to evade sanctions. The real play however is to cut off crypto as a possible escape for anyone wanting to escape the planned digital currency or otherwise evade Big Brother surveillance.
You are spot on. We are going to separate the uniparty from the people now very very quickly.
So I’ve been hearing..
Mitch, is that you?
M. K. Bhadrakumar
@BhadraPunchline
·
Europe can't take Blinken's bullying anymore. So far today, leaders of UK, Germany & Netherlands have openly told Blinken "Nyet" apropos his move to sanction Russia's energy exports! Interestingly, Boris Johnson most forceful. Europe in revolt that US is wrecking their economies!
On what basis? /s
At least we lead by example, wrecking our own economy.
That's the basis....
Note that these appear to be conditions for a ceasefire--not for a permanent peace:
Russia has told Ukraine it is ready to halt military operations “in a moment” if Kyiv meets a list of conditions, the Kremlin spokesman said on Monday.
Dmitry Peskov said Moscow was demanding that
1. Ukraine cease military action,
2. change its constitution to enshrine neutrality,
3. acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory, and
4. recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states.
Notably absent: the whole "denazification" thing.
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/kremlin-cancels-denazification-of
Please read what I wrote: "these appear to be conditions for a ceasefire--not for a permanent peace". These demands/conditions are utterly unacceptable to the Neo-Nazis. Further, the first entry at the link speaks of denazification as an "ideal". That absence now is not "notable."
Works for me.
And also isn’t the “replacement” of current Ukrainian Govt with a “ Russian friendly” govt part of these conditions ?
Be careful what you ask for...
I am fed up with the whole thing. When I read of the fake photos and videos being used to sway our emotions and manipulate us into getting actively involved, I said “enough”. This is their conflict and it will play out. Hopefully, without the United States and its citizens.
Who is "they"? If not Russia and NATO -- and that's us. We don't get to wash our hands of this so easily. This is your American tax dollars at work.
The fake stuff is very disturbing, along with the online censorship, and the general mob behavior.
Sounds just like the Covid MO.
I’ll add something more… With all respect to Mark and the others who are trying diligently to bring us good analysis, we do not have access to enough information - real information - to have informed opinions. We’re just speculating as are so many others. An exercise in futility.
There's a simple shortcut: whatever the (well aware of the hard facts) Western propagandists tell you, believe the opposite. It's a good strategy - fails sometimes (we assumed Russia wouldn't invade at all due to this) but overall it's a fantastic way of knowing what's happenning.
Thanks, but I am not going to get into that either. I don’t need to dig around and try to analyze. I’ll wait for the ending.
@Bebe; Ehrlich suggest following Gray Connolly on Twitter too.
No idea who Ehrlich is nor why his opinion should be compelling. I would just as soon have a look at Richard Fernandez’s analysis:
https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2022/03/07/the-end-of-the-old-normal-n1564272
Very good read. Provides a nice summary.
Be my guest.
My point, AC, is that we are reading opinions. We really don’t have much in the way of facts. Neither do those opinion pundits or bloggers or media analysts. And if and when we get facts, will we know that they are facts? What will we do with or about them?
Not sure that's entirely fair. Certainly is a lot of speculation but there is a big difference between informed speculation and SWAGs and the kind of blatant propaganda we're seeing run rampant in media now. For example, i don't need to have direct access to battlefield reports to discern lies coming from the SPOTUS or the dc gangsters, or make inferences from the type and volume of those lies. All of us are called on to make speculations and decisions on all sorts of things without more than circumstantial or second hand data. We rely on our experience, our gut, the track record of those claiming to have information. We avoid dogmatism but we have some pretty good reads on what's going on even without alot of data. Hardly an exercise in futility.
Some things turn out to be far beyond our power to deal with. So fine. We are informed. But by others who don’t have truly inside information. Who ahsre their opinions. So we can play laptop commando or we can relax a bit and watch what happens. What action plan do you as an “informed” person have?
It's 2022. The information IS the action plan in an Info War. The Information has been the battle since Goebbels and the advent of serious mass marketing. Most of us have fallen prey to the subtle and not so subtle info campaigns our whole lives. So trying to sort out the grains of truth from the blizzard of BS is one of the most important functions of this and other blogs and the comment sections. And the commenters here are very good at sifting and presenting different viewpoints. This isn't a choir rehearsal. It may seem to others chaotic or random opinions thrown around, but if we succeed in helping each other spot the propaganda (if nothing else) it's a valuable effort. Looks like that's not your deal, Bebe. Fine. Relax as you say and chime in when you get bored of watching. Don't disparage the group. I'm sure you've got good insights to share.
GU, those who have been here as long as I have know that I have never disparaged this group. . Mark provides an excellent forum. . We all have our opinions. I stated mine. You appear to be seeking consensus for yours.
Seeking consensus. That's the whole point, yep.
You mean the kind of "anti-war" protests in my hometown Chicago yesterday where protesters took to Michigan ave. clamering for "No Fly Zones" when they feel their "informed" enough to call for this based on MSM and NEO-Con's when in fact it's really a "war cry"?
Ugh
Thanks, Steve. My view, for the record, at the time of the Iraq war was that it was a war to control the flow of gas to Europe by providing the US with a permanent and massive military presence athwart the routes.
There's also the one going around in which Soros states that the Soviet Empire has been replaced by "The Soros Empire."
Cliff High. Hmmm...
Three things, TD:
1. Yes, Russia miscalculated that the Ukrainian army--the non-Neo Nazi parts--would desert en masse. That hasn't happened. They knew there would be a fight with the Neo-Nazis who have been recruited and trained by the CIA, so they knew this would take more than a few days. That's why their forces are so large. However, the failure so far of mass desertion has made more urban areas into centers of resistance.
2. No, the Russian military isn't "sooo bad". They're not making war on the Ukrainian people--which wouldn't be so terribly different than us invading Canada and leveling Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver without regard for civilian casualties--the way we've done in other countries. They want a friendly Ukraine, and they respect Ukraine's role in Russian history and culture.
3. Russia doesn't match up with us conventionally, but they have geographical and political factors on their side that prevent the US from bringing its full force to bear--thus giving Russia regional parity. They also have select weapons systems, especially hypersonic missiles, that give them an advantage for the time being that can force us to back off from a full war.
Yes
Yes
Yes
IDK
As i recall, Israel didn't drop all the docs they heisted from Iran until months later. Time will tell. Timing is everything in an Information War.
Here, have some archive.org links to pdfs that the US DoS recently removed from their website. Just for starters.
https://sarahwestall.com/us-embassy-removes-all-evidence-of-ukraine-bioweapons-labs-here-is-all-the-data/
Have you checked the internet? You might be surprised what you can find there.
I assume that Blinken is trying to sucker the Poles and/or Romanians into provoking a Russian strike, as a ploy to try to keep the Euros in line with our policy.
Yes as we rally the Europeans support for the Russian/China led Iran JCPOA new deal.