Not very interesting, except for one detail: Taub mentions to Guccifer2.0 that he intends to defeat Cicilline in NJ. Guccifer2.0 replies; "ho it seems i have a dossier on cicilline" and follows up with: "i can send u a dossier by email."
WHy is this important?
Because Guccifer2.0 uses the word "dossier" twice in back to back sentences, yet nobody heard about dossiers until sometime in the late Fall/Winter of 2016/2017 when the Steele "dossier" (which is really the Hillary dossier) was plastered all over the news.
Yet Guccifer2.0 was using the same obscure word in August 2016.
I submit this as circumstantial evidence Guccifer2.0 was working for Hillary's campaign, whether directly or indirectly. How else would G2.0 have known the word "Dossier" was going to soon be worn out to characterize damning political dirt on an opposing candidate in the 2016 election?
I did a cursory Goggle search to try to locate the earliest occasion on which dossier" was used in relation to Trump, and cannot find much of anything prior to the buzzfeed publication in January 2017.
This is way too much of a coincidence to be coincidence.
Was holding my breath hoping my rat b@st@rd Sen Warner might be one, but he's SSCI. I patiently await until they finally do get around to his treasonous self...
Thanks for linking us to Cleveland's interesting article.
I am especially curious about the Alfa Bank lawyer's question to Joffe: "Did you direct Mr. Sussmann to provide such documents to Congress?”
Why would Joffe be directing Sussman? I had thought that, in this situation, Sussman would be telling Joffe what to do -- rather than Joffe telling Sussman what to do.
I wonder whether Joffe was even closer to Hillary Clinton than Sussman was.
IIRC that Joffe was a client of Sussmann's at some point; thus, he directs his attorney to fence his fabricated data to various government agencies, acting as a "data launderer" or "cut-out" for Joffe. All of the people who did this DNS research went to great lengths to to obscure their identities The plain conclusion is they didn't want anyone to know who they were. And use of Sussmann allows Joffe to try to hide behind attorney/client privilege.
This should be admissible in court as evidence of a "guilty mind."
A further thought: if Joffe was in agreement with the objective of a larger conspiracy to commit a felony ("defraud the government," or whatever it's called) and the actions he and his DNS minions took furthered that conspiracy, even if those actions were legal, it makes Joffe guilty of the crime of conspiracy, and I believe that satisfies the requirement of an ongoing Criminal Felony to pierce the veil of the attorney/client privilege.
This perhaps explains why Joffe has attempted to intervene in the Sussmann prosecution.
But an attorney cannot violate the a/c privilege without the consent of the client, or a court ruling the crime fraud exception applies. The privilege is the client's, not the attorney's
Also, why didn't Joffe himself give the documents to the Senate contact? Instead, Joffe gave the documents to Sussman, directing Sussman to forward the documents to the Senate contact.
It seems that Joffe's identity had to be protected more than Sussman's identity had to be protected. In other words, Joffe was more valuable, and Sussman was more expendable.
If so, then valuable to whom? and expendable for whom?
I wonder whether the Senate Armed Services Committee oversees the National Security Agency.
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I wonder also whether the documents were given to that particular Committee because Joffe was collecting information also about Michael Flynn, the former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
Perhaps Donald Trump was not the only person targeted by Joffe's gang. Perhaps other targets were Michael Flynn, Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.
Page did business in Russia for many years, and it's quite likely that he had an account at Alfa Bank.
Flynn had been paid by Russia's RT television network for attending a celebration in Moscow in 2015. That payment might have been cause to study whether he too had an account in Alfa Bank.
Another possible target was Sergey Millian, the President of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce. For sure, he had an account at Alfa Bank.
Since Joffe was targeting computer communications between Alfa Bank and Trump, he might have been targeting likewise Flynn, Page, Papadopoulos, Millian and others.
Off topic: very intriguing release of messages from Guccifer 2.0 and some GOP candidate in 2016:
>> http://g-2.space/taub.jpg <<
Not very interesting, except for one detail: Taub mentions to Guccifer2.0 that he intends to defeat Cicilline in NJ. Guccifer2.0 replies; "ho it seems i have a dossier on cicilline" and follows up with: "i can send u a dossier by email."
WHy is this important?
Because Guccifer2.0 uses the word "dossier" twice in back to back sentences, yet nobody heard about dossiers until sometime in the late Fall/Winter of 2016/2017 when the Steele "dossier" (which is really the Hillary dossier) was plastered all over the news.
Yet Guccifer2.0 was using the same obscure word in August 2016.
I submit this as circumstantial evidence Guccifer2.0 was working for Hillary's campaign, whether directly or indirectly. How else would G2.0 have known the word "Dossier" was going to soon be worn out to characterize damning political dirt on an opposing candidate in the 2016 election?
I did a cursory Goggle search to try to locate the earliest occasion on which dossier" was used in relation to Trump, and cannot find much of anything prior to the buzzfeed publication in January 2017.
This is way too much of a coincidence to be coincidence.
Was holding my breath hoping my rat b@st@rd Sen Warner might be one, but he's SSCI. I patiently await until they finally do get around to his treasonous self...
Thanks for linking us to Cleveland's interesting article.
I am especially curious about the Alfa Bank lawyer's question to Joffe: "Did you direct Mr. Sussmann to provide such documents to Congress?”
Why would Joffe be directing Sussman? I had thought that, in this situation, Sussman would be telling Joffe what to do -- rather than Joffe telling Sussman what to do.
I wonder whether Joffe was even closer to Hillary Clinton than Sussman was.
You know Sussmann did, right? I mean, I assume the lawyer Sussmann was in overall charge, not Joffe. You need a legal guy running that kind of op.
IIRC that Joffe was a client of Sussmann's at some point; thus, he directs his attorney to fence his fabricated data to various government agencies, acting as a "data launderer" or "cut-out" for Joffe. All of the people who did this DNS research went to great lengths to to obscure their identities The plain conclusion is they didn't want anyone to know who they were. And use of Sussmann allows Joffe to try to hide behind attorney/client privilege.
This should be admissible in court as evidence of a "guilty mind."
A further thought: if Joffe was in agreement with the objective of a larger conspiracy to commit a felony ("defraud the government," or whatever it's called) and the actions he and his DNS minions took furthered that conspiracy, even if those actions were legal, it makes Joffe guilty of the crime of conspiracy, and I believe that satisfies the requirement of an ongoing Criminal Felony to pierce the veil of the attorney/client privilege.
This perhaps explains why Joffe has attempted to intervene in the Sussmann prosecution.
But an attorney cannot violate the a/c privilege without the consent of the client, or a court ruling the crime fraud exception applies. The privilege is the client's, not the attorney's
Also, why didn't Joffe himself give the documents to the Senate contact? Instead, Joffe gave the documents to Sussman, directing Sussman to forward the documents to the Senate contact.
It seems that Joffe's identity had to be protected more than Sussman's identity had to be protected. In other words, Joffe was more valuable, and Sussman was more expendable.
If so, then valuable to whom? and expendable for whom?
Sussmann was the guy with the political contacts of long standing.
I wonder whether the Senate Armed Services Committee oversees the National Security Agency.
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I wonder also whether the documents were given to that particular Committee because Joffe was collecting information also about Michael Flynn, the former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
Perhaps Donald Trump was not the only person targeted by Joffe's gang. Perhaps other targets were Michael Flynn, Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.
Page did business in Russia for many years, and it's quite likely that he had an account at Alfa Bank.
Flynn had been paid by Russia's RT television network for attending a celebration in Moscow in 2015. That payment might have been cause to study whether he too had an account in Alfa Bank.
Another possible target was Sergey Millian, the President of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce. For sure, he had an account at Alfa Bank.
Since Joffe was targeting computer communications between Alfa Bank and Trump, he might have been targeting likewise Flynn, Page, Papadopoulos, Millian and others.
Should be SSCI, despite falling under DoD.
Wyden is SSCI.
https://www.rcfp.org/tech-press-freedom-nov-15-2020/