This has been in work for a long time; it's a book. The manuscript has been floating around, and many people would have known about this "bombshell" long before now. Certainly the deep state would know.
The timing of release, however, could be manipulated a fair amount. Still, it's a book, and once printed, everything in it is "known." The "bombshell" has been known to all who need to know for quite a long time. The only questions I have are (1) Who made the decision many months ago to release this information (2) What do they hope to accomplish by releasing it at any time (3) What is going to happen over the near term (1-4 months) that needs this kind of distraction, and (4) Who is the real target?
If the 25th is invoked, and something happens to our VP (seems lots of people are really frightened by the prospect of her becoming President), next in line is pelosi. Are the people behind the curtain equally frightened of the Speaker? Will she be forced to resign so someone less frightening could be 3rd in line?
Personally, I'd be quite relieved if they were all thrown out.
I don’t believe life could possibly unfold this way, but I would actually like to see Tulsi Gabbard president. I hope President Biden actually serves his full term as long as VP Harris is VP. How the person who came in last or second to last in the primaries came to be VP for a man who came in 4th and 5th in the first primaries is really a puzzle.
I can agree with much of that, but "floating around" and "quite a long time" is too facile when we get to this point. We can agree that people with a need to know DID know about this. However, the idea that this was in a book that floated around for quite a long time needs to be demonstrated.
A book can be in the works for a long time, yet closely held.
A new chapter in a book like this can be very quickly added.
It would seem to make more sense to withhold stuff like this from Woodward until you see how the Zhou regime works out. And we're seeing now that it's not working out at all.
BREAKING: At least one of Milley's calls to China was intercepted by a partner nation targeting PRC leadership and resulted in a FVEY rocket of "WTF" to Meade and Bolling, per IC official
Blinken I see as a Biden loyalist with closer ties to the NSA, than to the State Dept. He is officially the head of State.
My guess on scapegoats for the Afghan fiasco are Milley and Blinken. Both are becoming laughing stocks and political liabilities.
Great point Mark - why is this coming out now? Perhaps it’s because Woodward’s book publishing needed some press, so supplied this juicy tidbit? Or it was meant to discredit Trump? By showing how he was not trusted and was perceived to be dangerous? Do the military did their duty to protect the US?
Why is it that our shytty little country of ours can "take out" dictators like Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, who incidentally had nothing to do with 9/11, because they were branded as threats to our democracy, while the enemies within remain at large? Where is there a sovereign entity on the face of this planet that can now help us to "take out" the evil entities within OUR government deliberately working to destroy America with a force far more destructive than anything that happened 9/11, all at the expense of the taxpayers?
How much longer will God allow this to continue?
Here is the link to an excellent brief history and expose by Michael Matt and RFK, Jr. of the corruption of Fauci and the omerta enabling Pelosi to get away with murder that, until such time as this hag receives what she's been begging for, America will keep swimming in the cesspool that Trump called the "swamp."
Additionally, PBS recently released a documentary ostensibly all about 9/11 and America's failed leadership, in which extensive footage of 9/11 is narrated by a panel of selected experts we've never heard of before, some from Washington Post, the New Yorker, New York Times, the UN, a handful of foreign diplomats and American traitors like Chuck Hagel peppered in, etc., that, after some 120 minutes, offers up the unsurprising denouement in which they take the opportunity to equate J6 with 9/11 and to brand Trump as a xenophobe dictator who is entirely responsible for the January 6th violence at the Capitol. The entire documentary is engineered to destroy America as a feasible, sovereign nation and to brand every presidency, including Obama's, sufficiently incompetent as to make the case for the abrogation of the entire nation and government so as to validate the case for a one world government. It is a pitifully shameful attempt to promulgate the evil of the globalists by a handful of useful idiots who believe they are experts. But the beginning segments give good coverage of the 9/11 events, especially the footage of George W. Bush who has GUILT written all over his face though he tries to mask it with his arrogant insouciance. What a turd.
God, help us. Jesus Christ is the only way we will pull out of this. Watch how many squirm at His name and that goes to show you where we're at right now. If ever you want to get rid of somebody who buttonholes you in a conversation, just start talking about Jesus Christ. It's amazing how fast you get rid of them.
That is Deism. George Washington was a Freemason. Thomas Jefferson took a razor blade to the Bible to rewrite it to suit himself. They deliberately left Jesus Christ out of their vernacular.
True Christians are the living body of Christ. The wheat is being sifted from the chaff.
Too many call themselves Christians. A true Christian is willing to be a red martyr for Jesus Christ. Simply stated, the Truth is of God; lies are of Satan.
Those who are sincerely dedicated and consecrated to Christ, God, act upon their Christian duty to defend Him no matter the cost. So what then does that say about our Founders?
In 1782, the Great Seal produced by the Continental Congress employs the pyramid with the all-seeing eye that represents the elitists in the know, in other words, the Illuminati. At the bottom of the structure are the Roman numerals MDCCLXVI (1776) and visible below the numbers are the words: "NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM" which is Latin for "New Order of the Ages" or, in other words, "New World Order." This Great Seal is embedded within the stained glass windows of our Capitol building. It is on the back of our U.S. one dollar bill.
Eight years after serving as president, George Washington, after reading the book "Proofs of a Conspiracy," said, "It was not my intention to doubt that the doctrine of the Illuminati had spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more satisfied of this fact than I am."
Historically, it was Ferdinand and Isabella who sponsored the voyage to bring Christendom and Catholicism to far reaching parts of the world that lead Columbus to discover the Americas. Catholics were here long before the Protestant Reformation. The rest is another noteworthy discussion speaking of sincere Christians.
This is an important discussion that, in order to reverently address its depth and breadth, takes time and consideration that hopefully will one day make for a thread here or elsewhere if we may meet again.
I gather information and opinions from all sorts of sources and evaluate them as best I'm able to. Regardless of whether I have personal opinions about those sources. I don't discount anyone simply because I disagree on one or even many points, or because they've made factual mistakes in the past. For example, I'm quite certain I would disagree with Glenn Greenwald on many matters, as also with many other persons I cite. I cited sundance's past employment with Publix not to denigrate him--that would be silly. Nor to somehow boost myself--that would be pathetic. I did so to suggest that a Publix store manager from Florida is unlikely to have inside DC sources. That's simply the real world. There's nothing per se wrong with being the frontman for a consortium with a political agenda. That wasn't a criticism, either. It's a factual matter, but it can help in understanding where a person is coming from. As I've explained in the past re CTH. I remain perfectly happy to evaluate what CTH has to offer on a case by case basis as I did today.
To me this is an Occam's razor situation. Milley is a traitor. Was he bought by the Chinese? We don't know. Did he think he was serving the U.S. and doing his own brand of virtue signalling by putting a "check" on Trump? Likely. Makes no difference. Same with Pelosi. They both went around and undermined the chain of command.
Why did it come out now? Well, what would have been different if it had been last week or next week? I don't believe the timing was prompted by current events. Neither Milley nor Pelosi will suffer any consequences and it will not directly impact Biden. Not with Dem control of Congress. Trump Derangement Syndrome and its associated Prog "good intentions" will cover a multitude of what otherwise would be sins - and thus the timing is of no particular impact.
As an aside: I don't come to this blog expecting that Mark W. will provide answers for everything on which he opines. I come for his educated opinion and analysis, understanding that both of these are limited but are likely much better than mine at least in certain areas. He may make me think of things I hadn't thought of.... or induce me to explore issues further on my own and develop my own information. In any case I am looking neither for a guru (total enlightenment) or a teacher (someone raising questions as a method of instruction). I trust that Mark is honest in what he says and I take it at face value and with the utmost appreciation. That is all.
Maybe Milley is the James Comey of the military--someone who was so full of it that he placed himself in a position to rescue the country from Trump. By doing this, he's become too much of a liability to any potential allies and is about to be cut loose. Like Comey, he probably has dirt on others so will face no consequences for his actions.
LOL! Caution is good policy. But where are the denials? Should be immediate. And would WaPo run a story of this magnitude--and so harmful to their party--without running it past the principals? I'm doubtful.
I read that Woodward had 8, count 'em 8, sources confirm what Milley said in the meeting with the senior commanders. No need to ask for confirmation from Milley. Pelosi is too cunning to leave tracks. Milley is the designated fallguy.
Esp. assuming that Mark was referring to DJT when he wrote "the removal of a president by other than constitutional means", they've already permanently adjusted acceptable norms.
Literally anything can happen now, incl. Stalin/ Pol Pot- esque measures.
You’d have to have been in a cave somewhere to have not known about the nefarious attempts to get President Trump ousted via the 25th Amendment. Problem was that none of his cabinet stepped forward and pulled the lever and Pelosi couldn’t do it by herself...
Mark, you said Sundance fronts for a group? I have no reason to doubt you but I have been reading the CTH for sometime and have not thought of Sundance fronting for a group. Could you please elaborate. Again no malice intended.
I totally get the point about pumping out the amount of material he is doing, and of the quality. It does lead to the suspicion he is getting help. It takes a huge amount of time to keep up with what’s going on, and especially in the depth he does.
Truthfully I don’t know his background. Again not being argumentative. Can you be more informative about his group and contacts. I agree he is on the cutting edge and has an amazing insight. BTW I am nobody just trying to figure it all out but I do have a brain although it is old. Has you FBI background given you knowledge about CTH that isn’t available to me?
So you don’t really have any inside knowledge about Sundance other than what I can Google. That’s disappointing. Also no reason to be caustic. Must be a left over FBI attitude perhaps?
Oh, come on. That’s nasty. Mark doesn’t need a defender, but we are guests on his site. Unhappy? Lots of other sites. Those who show up on blog comment threads complaining about the host would probably slam the cake flavor at their friend’s birthday party. Or their not winning the pin the tail on the donkey game...
It’s also pretty interesting when someone who hides behnd a username, virtually anonymous, wants someone to disclose the inside dope on someone else. Instead of skulking around, why don’t you ask Sundance?
Given that the current President has cognitive deficiencies expressly and implicitly acknowledged by our allies and the media, who has Gen. Milley been in contact with around the world to tell that the US military will not act on the addled thinking of the current POTUS?
Maybe I’m getting too far out over my skis here but what are the chances this could destroy the Dem party? The backlash is already fomenting; you see it in the “F* Joe Biden” chants @ football games all over the country, Chou Bai Den met - in CA of all places - by protestors holding “F* Biden” signs & ones proclaiming Trump the real prez. They must know they’re headed to electoral wipeout next year & don’t see them being able to get it behind them because they just seem to roll from one unmitigated disaster into another.
If Milley didn’t do this, where’s his denunciation as of - @ this writing - 9:20 EST? Don’t see how you let something this explosive by bandied about by the 24hr news cycle + SM. This is the type of thing one has to jump on immediately or so one would think.
Could be they’re so complacent & know the media’s in their pocket the hubris meter has popped the needle.
Milley has to have given that admonition to his aides that he was to be consulted if they had any inkling that President Trump was going to attack China and the PLA. Depending upon how many aides there are, that could be a number of potentially loose lips. I don’t see Milley engendering a lot of loyalty from his own aides...
I also remember reports about Trump being lied to about forces left in Syria, and the general doing the lying bragging about it. Any time Trump tried to exit Afghanistan, the military (well, them and any other part of the "deep state") sabotaged him politically.
W has no issue with it because he's on the same team. Hard to imagine the son falls far from the former CIA director's (Bush Sr) tree.
Kama sutra? Did you mean supporu? (Sp?)
Seppuku.
This has been in work for a long time; it's a book. The manuscript has been floating around, and many people would have known about this "bombshell" long before now. Certainly the deep state would know.
The timing of release, however, could be manipulated a fair amount. Still, it's a book, and once printed, everything in it is "known." The "bombshell" has been known to all who need to know for quite a long time. The only questions I have are (1) Who made the decision many months ago to release this information (2) What do they hope to accomplish by releasing it at any time (3) What is going to happen over the near term (1-4 months) that needs this kind of distraction, and (4) Who is the real target?
If the 25th is invoked, and something happens to our VP (seems lots of people are really frightened by the prospect of her becoming President), next in line is pelosi. Are the people behind the curtain equally frightened of the Speaker? Will she be forced to resign so someone less frightening could be 3rd in line?
Personally, I'd be quite relieved if they were all thrown out.
I don’t believe life could possibly unfold this way, but I would actually like to see Tulsi Gabbard president. I hope President Biden actually serves his full term as long as VP Harris is VP. How the person who came in last or second to last in the primaries came to be VP for a man who came in 4th and 5th in the first primaries is really a puzzle.
I can agree with much of that, but "floating around" and "quite a long time" is too facile when we get to this point. We can agree that people with a need to know DID know about this. However, the idea that this was in a book that floated around for quite a long time needs to be demonstrated.
A book can be in the works for a long time, yet closely held.
A new chapter in a book like this can be very quickly added.
It would seem to make more sense to withhold stuff like this from Woodward until you see how the Zhou regime works out. And we're seeing now that it's not working out at all.
These are speculative objections, of course.
Getting stranger and stranger…
BREAKING: At least one of Milley's calls to China was intercepted by a partner nation targeting PRC leadership and resulted in a FVEY rocket of "WTF" to Meade and Bolling, per IC official
https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1437834782143037445?
WTF indeed!
Blinken I see as a Biden loyalist with closer ties to the NSA, than to the State Dept. He is officially the head of State.
My guess on scapegoats for the Afghan fiasco are Milley and Blinken. Both are becoming laughing stocks and political liabilities.
Great point Mark - why is this coming out now? Perhaps it’s because Woodward’s book publishing needed some press, so supplied this juicy tidbit? Or it was meant to discredit Trump? By showing how he was not trusted and was perceived to be dangerous? Do the military did their duty to protect the US?
Why is it that our shytty little country of ours can "take out" dictators like Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, who incidentally had nothing to do with 9/11, because they were branded as threats to our democracy, while the enemies within remain at large? Where is there a sovereign entity on the face of this planet that can now help us to "take out" the evil entities within OUR government deliberately working to destroy America with a force far more destructive than anything that happened 9/11, all at the expense of the taxpayers?
How much longer will God allow this to continue?
Here is the link to an excellent brief history and expose by Michael Matt and RFK, Jr. of the corruption of Fauci and the omerta enabling Pelosi to get away with murder that, until such time as this hag receives what she's been begging for, America will keep swimming in the cesspool that Trump called the "swamp."
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/5578-world-vaccination-michael-matt-on-the-kennedy-connection`
Additionally, PBS recently released a documentary ostensibly all about 9/11 and America's failed leadership, in which extensive footage of 9/11 is narrated by a panel of selected experts we've never heard of before, some from Washington Post, the New Yorker, New York Times, the UN, a handful of foreign diplomats and American traitors like Chuck Hagel peppered in, etc., that, after some 120 minutes, offers up the unsurprising denouement in which they take the opportunity to equate J6 with 9/11 and to brand Trump as a xenophobe dictator who is entirely responsible for the January 6th violence at the Capitol. The entire documentary is engineered to destroy America as a feasible, sovereign nation and to brand every presidency, including Obama's, sufficiently incompetent as to make the case for the abrogation of the entire nation and government so as to validate the case for a one world government. It is a pitifully shameful attempt to promulgate the evil of the globalists by a handful of useful idiots who believe they are experts. But the beginning segments give good coverage of the 9/11 events, especially the footage of George W. Bush who has GUILT written all over his face though he tries to mask it with his arrogant insouciance. What a turd.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5iBxva_pm8&feature=emb_imp_woyt
God, help us. Jesus Christ is the only way we will pull out of this. Watch how many squirm at His name and that goes to show you where we're at right now. If ever you want to get rid of somebody who buttonholes you in a conversation, just start talking about Jesus Christ. It's amazing how fast you get rid of them.
That is Deism. George Washington was a Freemason. Thomas Jefferson took a razor blade to the Bible to rewrite it to suit himself. They deliberately left Jesus Christ out of their vernacular.
True Christians are the living body of Christ. The wheat is being sifted from the chaff.
Too many call themselves Christians. A true Christian is willing to be a red martyr for Jesus Christ. Simply stated, the Truth is of God; lies are of Satan.
Those who are sincerely dedicated and consecrated to Christ, God, act upon their Christian duty to defend Him no matter the cost. So what then does that say about our Founders?
In 1782, the Great Seal produced by the Continental Congress employs the pyramid with the all-seeing eye that represents the elitists in the know, in other words, the Illuminati. At the bottom of the structure are the Roman numerals MDCCLXVI (1776) and visible below the numbers are the words: "NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM" which is Latin for "New Order of the Ages" or, in other words, "New World Order." This Great Seal is embedded within the stained glass windows of our Capitol building. It is on the back of our U.S. one dollar bill.
Eight years after serving as president, George Washington, after reading the book "Proofs of a Conspiracy," said, "It was not my intention to doubt that the doctrine of the Illuminati had spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more satisfied of this fact than I am."
Historically, it was Ferdinand and Isabella who sponsored the voyage to bring Christendom and Catholicism to far reaching parts of the world that lead Columbus to discover the Americas. Catholics were here long before the Protestant Reformation. The rest is another noteworthy discussion speaking of sincere Christians.
This is an important discussion that, in order to reverently address its depth and breadth, takes time and consideration that hopefully will one day make for a thread here or elsewhere if we may meet again.
God bless you. Thanks for an interesting comment.
And Jesus Christ was the embodiment of the eternal entering the field of time. Or an expression of God through one man.
I gather information and opinions from all sorts of sources and evaluate them as best I'm able to. Regardless of whether I have personal opinions about those sources. I don't discount anyone simply because I disagree on one or even many points, or because they've made factual mistakes in the past. For example, I'm quite certain I would disagree with Glenn Greenwald on many matters, as also with many other persons I cite. I cited sundance's past employment with Publix not to denigrate him--that would be silly. Nor to somehow boost myself--that would be pathetic. I did so to suggest that a Publix store manager from Florida is unlikely to have inside DC sources. That's simply the real world. There's nothing per se wrong with being the frontman for a consortium with a political agenda. That wasn't a criticism, either. It's a factual matter, but it can help in understanding where a person is coming from. As I've explained in the past re CTH. I remain perfectly happy to evaluate what CTH has to offer on a case by case basis as I did today.
To me this is an Occam's razor situation. Milley is a traitor. Was he bought by the Chinese? We don't know. Did he think he was serving the U.S. and doing his own brand of virtue signalling by putting a "check" on Trump? Likely. Makes no difference. Same with Pelosi. They both went around and undermined the chain of command.
Why did it come out now? Well, what would have been different if it had been last week or next week? I don't believe the timing was prompted by current events. Neither Milley nor Pelosi will suffer any consequences and it will not directly impact Biden. Not with Dem control of Congress. Trump Derangement Syndrome and its associated Prog "good intentions" will cover a multitude of what otherwise would be sins - and thus the timing is of no particular impact.
As an aside: I don't come to this blog expecting that Mark W. will provide answers for everything on which he opines. I come for his educated opinion and analysis, understanding that both of these are limited but are likely much better than mine at least in certain areas. He may make me think of things I hadn't thought of.... or induce me to explore issues further on my own and develop my own information. In any case I am looking neither for a guru (total enlightenment) or a teacher (someone raising questions as a method of instruction). I trust that Mark is honest in what he says and I take it at face value and with the utmost appreciation. That is all.
Thanks. I can ask for no more than that.
Miley’s a box of rocks.
Maybe Milley is the James Comey of the military--someone who was so full of it that he placed himself in a position to rescue the country from Trump. By doing this, he's become too much of a liability to any potential allies and is about to be cut loose. Like Comey, he probably has dirt on others so will face no consequences for his actions.
I want to see a denial from Milley before I believe anything Woodward writes.
LOL! Caution is good policy. But where are the denials? Should be immediate. And would WaPo run a story of this magnitude--and so harmful to their party--without running it past the principals? I'm doubtful.
I read that Woodward had 8, count 'em 8, sources confirm what Milley said in the meeting with the senior commanders. No need to ask for confirmation from Milley. Pelosi is too cunning to leave tracks. Milley is the designated fallguy.
Jesse Kelly
@JesseKellyDC
Trump so terrified The System that everyone from generals to journalists decided anything and everything was acceptable in the effort to purge him.
In so doing, they permanently adjust acceptable norms in this country. And that toothpaste doesn’t go back in the tube.
Esp. assuming that Mark was referring to DJT when he wrote "the removal of a president by other than constitutional means", they've already permanently adjusted acceptable norms.
Literally anything can happen now, incl. Stalin/ Pol Pot- esque measures.
You’d have to have been in a cave somewhere to have not known about the nefarious attempts to get President Trump ousted via the 25th Amendment. Problem was that none of his cabinet stepped forward and pulled the lever and Pelosi couldn’t do it by herself...
TheMorningSpew2
@TheMorningSpew2
The Milley story is probably a distraction from something far worse.
Trying to keep John Durham's report buried?
Something else.
Durham's report is itself cover.
Mark, you said Sundance fronts for a group? I have no reason to doubt you but I have been reading the CTH for sometime and have not thought of Sundance fronting for a group. Could you please elaborate. Again no malice intended.
1. There's no way someone with his background has the contacts that he obviously has.
2. There's no way he can possibly pump out that volume of material while simultaneously staying informed all on his own--not without massive help.
I know this because I try. Go ahead and try it yourself.
I totally get the point about pumping out the amount of material he is doing, and of the quality. It does lead to the suspicion he is getting help. It takes a huge amount of time to keep up with what’s going on, and especially in the depth he does.
Truthfully I don’t know his background. Again not being argumentative. Can you be more informative about his group and contacts. I agree he is on the cutting edge and has an amazing insight. BTW I am nobody just trying to figure it all out but I do have a brain although it is old. Has you FBI background given you knowledge about CTH that isn’t available to me?
Please do your own research--I don't have time to do it for you. Start with Mark Bradman being a former Publix store manager and work from there.
So you don’t really have any inside knowledge about Sundance other than what I can Google. That’s disappointing. Also no reason to be caustic. Must be a left over FBI attitude perhaps?
Take it somewhere else cheesehead.
Oh, come on. That’s nasty. Mark doesn’t need a defender, but we are guests on his site. Unhappy? Lots of other sites. Those who show up on blog comment threads complaining about the host would probably slam the cake flavor at their friend’s birthday party. Or their not winning the pin the tail on the donkey game...
It’s also pretty interesting when someone who hides behnd a username, virtually anonymous, wants someone to disclose the inside dope on someone else. Instead of skulking around, why don’t you ask Sundance?
Hmmm:
shipwreckedcrew.substack.com
@shipwreckedcrew
Given that the current President has cognitive deficiencies expressly and implicitly acknowledged by our allies and the media, who has Gen. Milley been in contact with around the world to tell that the US military will not act on the addled thinking of the current POTUS?
Maybe I’m getting too far out over my skis here but what are the chances this could destroy the Dem party? The backlash is already fomenting; you see it in the “F* Joe Biden” chants @ football games all over the country, Chou Bai Den met - in CA of all places - by protestors holding “F* Biden” signs & ones proclaiming Trump the real prez. They must know they’re headed to electoral wipeout next year & don’t see them being able to get it behind them because they just seem to roll from one unmitigated disaster into another.
If Milley didn’t do this, where’s his denunciation as of - @ this writing - 9:20 EST? Don’t see how you let something this explosive by bandied about by the 24hr news cycle + SM. This is the type of thing one has to jump on immediately or so one would think.
Could be they’re so complacent & know the media’s in their pocket the hubris meter has popped the needle.
The hubris meter has popped the needle?
Or, their DS pals have a repertoire of ploys, to gin up a change of subject?
Either way they look like the complete & total idiotic, incompetent fools they are.
Milley has to have given that admonition to his aides that he was to be consulted if they had any inkling that President Trump was going to attack China and the PLA. Depending upon how many aides there are, that could be a number of potentially loose lips. I don’t see Milley engendering a lot of loyalty from his own aides...
I also remember reports about Trump being lied to about forces left in Syria, and the general doing the lying bragging about it. Any time Trump tried to exit Afghanistan, the military (well, them and any other part of the "deep state") sabotaged him politically.
W has no issue with it because he's on the same team. Hard to imagine the son falls far from the former CIA director's (Bush Sr) tree.