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Aug 11Edited

There will be no war with China it's just a huge grift. Trade embargo alone would kill tens of millions of Americans who couldn't get their meds since everyone is on something that usually comes from China. Statins to insulin to precursors for meds still manufactured in US or friendlies'.. Not to mention 40% of US arms are composed of China warez. US literally can not fight a war w/o China inputs. At least not a long one. Couple weeks at best, then, out of ammo. China OTOH, could destroy every base/ship within 5000 miles of China and can do this 50x over with their stockpiles. China can make 1000 cruise missiles a week we can make 4. Ships, planes and other implements of war same lopsided numbers. But again we build none without China parts.

Selling out our manufacturing base for Mcservice and government jobs has it's positive consequences I guess.. We are literally incapable of fighting a great power war.

I wont even go into when Americans starting dying by the boat load. But they won't tolerate it for even two weeks the ammo lasts.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Megatron @Megatron_ron

BREAKING:

  The fallen President of Bangladesh, Sheikh Hasina, said that the United States was behind the coup:

"I could have remained in power if I had surrendered the sovereignty of Saint Martin Island and allowed America to hold sway over the Bay of Bengal.

I beseech the people of my land, 'Please do not be manipulated by radicals," Hasina said in a message conveyed to The Economic Times through her close associates."

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johnycomelately's avatar

Brilliant post, making sense of SE Asia.

So the globalist might run a new Ukraine through Bangladesh and Burma.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

I believe the intent is to close off avenues of "trade" for China. In other words, to choke China from the Straits, and further west towards India thus cutting China off. Kinda like blockade sanctions.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Was it really Iran?

Since our Intel agencies have the ability to use other nations hacking signature. Thank Snowden for that knowledge…

https://www.semafor.com/article/08/10/2024/trump-campaign-reckons-with-alleged-iranian-hack

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Hacked named "Robert". Wasn't that one of Biden's surrogate names "Robert L Peters"?

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I'd bet not Iran.

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Sarcastic Cynical Texan's avatar

I personally regret that I was such an indoctrinated, foolish youth who willingly, ["I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;" . . . & the rest of the boilerplate] volunteered twice for the legion of Neocon Anglo-Zionist Interlopers.

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D F Barr's avatar

Don’t be so hard on yourself. A lot of us swallowed the bullshit before we were awakened slowly over the last decade or so.

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SMH's avatar

Agreed DF, but it’s still a very bitter pill to swallow! The idea that we were lied to on such a monumental scale is galling, our youth and immaturity were abused and preyed upon relentlessly.

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Jeff Martineau's avatar

We really do not understand China, and that is going to be a big problem. China has attempted in various ways to get a basic understanding of the US. None of us recognizes the history and how it has shaped China. China has been invaded and manipulated by the West for the last two hundred years. Most Chinese, even the ones that moved here, think of Americas as quite self-interested but in a vulgar immoral way. They have terms/words to describe us as outsiders that I won’t repeat here.

Our lack of understanding means there is no level of “deterrence,” as opposed to our interactions with the Russians - see the recent prisoner exchange.

We have no idea how China has become “advanced” in a variety of technologies and industries, EVs being but one big example where they make us look inept.

Further we are massively penetrated and compromised by the Chinese. This leads to stupid things like closing all of the Confucian centers on college campuses and the like.

China is led by Daoists. See Xi and his wife (a folk singer/artist) and the few hundred around them. Not Confucian not Buddhist. Daoist. Dao means “the way.” Think a kind of energy. They do not distinguish between mind/body as we have. They do not have a “psychology” in the way we tend to think of it.

China believes as much of the world does in history as cycles. The Daoists has there high points just as the Confucians and Buddhists did. The Daoists are the “pro” technology crowd. They were subsequently “defeated” in the past, thus why the Printing Press, for example, was never a thing in China. But they have it going now. The next high point in the cycle is 100-125 years from now. This is how they think: the future, generations from now, their great-grandchildren. They see DIGITAL as the way to get them there.

They care about the Chinese and all of those that are under their civilizational influence. We call this the EAST. It’s not the West and they have no interest in conquering. They think in terms of harmony, at least within their orbit. The US/West (largely the Brits) is viewed as lost by the Chinese. And thus dangerous to the world. Why? Because we lack a “morality.” Not ethics, which is made up stuff, but morality. This is what is needed to God to smile on you, or to be in alignment. They view us as degrading over time. The Vulgar American/Westerner that wants to take advantage of others, tell others what to do and bring instability and war. Good to remember that something like 30 or more millions of Chinese died in the 1800s because of the West coming to China and starting civil wars.

Lastly, there are more Catholics in China than there are Americans (give or take given our open borders). The Pope often sees the US as causing problems, even within the Church, is it any wonder that he pays attention to China? Big flock there.

Lastly, China has embraced DIGITAL as a way to speed them along their way up

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

I was thinking about some of these things today after reading this column. The toll of the Brits on China has been astronomical, as you point out. These same Brits are effectively enemies of the US. I guess I see similar things for the US vis a vis China as I do the US and Russia: we have a common enemy in the Anglo-Zionists.

But while the Russians would be most likely to neutralize the US with nuclear bombs, the Chinese could do it with more of an occupation.

I don't have a point, I guess. What are your thoughts?

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Jeff Martineau's avatar

Hello Jeff. Good question. First, Russia really has no interest in that level of confrontation. Frankly, they are taking the course they are on because of our insistence on taking over the Brits idea of our ruling the world and everyone doing things our way to “keep the peace.”

The Chinese have zero interest in ever having conflict with us, certainly not on our territory. They are concerned about themselves.

We made the same “mistake” with both: we never brought them into Globalism on any terms that would have been “moral” to them. We have wanted them to do what we want: think labor and resources.

We have never taken the Chinese seriously as a civilization: why are they the way they are. We have wanted, like the Brits, to change them to benefit us. The Chinese have been happy to take the money and develop their own country and tech. But they will never allow the West to dominate them. They are prepared for asymmetric war should we do something.

They have much more confidence in themselves than they did say 40 years ago. They are attempting to build a moral, based on their history and view of the world, man and God. It’s not Marxist, at least a Marxism we would not recognize. It is very Chinese.

And there are millions of Chinese in the US…and everywhere in the world. They have embraced DIGITAL in ways we have not and do not yet understand…what they call “ubiquitous society.” They are putting a Chinese lens over DIGITAL: they won’t allow it to run amok or do what they don’t want it to do, which is to say, they will not become Western, or be shaped by the tech.

We take two approaches: regulation, which accomplishes nothing, or a libertarian view: whatever happens with tech is ultimately good. We think we can control it, and that it will control humans. Neither of these gets humans right.

There is a possibility of conflict to the extent we do not understand the Chinese or the tech we are rapidly adopting. The Chinese will never become like us. So what are we going to do about it?

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Classic Rider's avatar

Excellent question. My thought is just go our way and let them go theirs, but our power hungry types in the west want to control both, so not to be. Possibly on their side also. I had a good friend who started as a physics major, but ended up with a philosophy degree. He mentioned the oriental mind went in a very different direction than the western mind, as traced back to ancient Greece. Much less rational process of ideas than the west and absolutely no respect for the individual. Mr Wauck would know much more than I.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Mark, I am so angry and appalled by the Democrats and Republicans right now that I say bring it and get it over with. Give us our just desserts. We made the bed so let us lie in it.

The Chinese will spend hundreds of millions supporting the growth of new industries. We spend ours on sports arenas.

The Chinese have a modest social credit score system in some places. The British are now arresting people who make incorrect social media postings.

We go overseas to build military bases. The Chiness go abroad to build industries and trade networks.

We would do so much better under Chines communists that American ones.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

When you see all these color revolutions/regime changes around the world, it makes you wonder about our own politics.

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Classic Rider's avatar

I used to wonder, but haven't for quite a while now, multiple decades. However, I did not realize how much was not politics, but the intelligence stuff running things - Deep State if you will. (No offense Mark.) I never believed the CIA killed Kennedy until the last few years. I keep going back to when the TV gave us the news that Ruby killed Oswald and Mom saying "this stinks to high heaven". Yes it did.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

A strong case can be made the us had a color revolution in 2020.

Interesting article. My take is we have community organizing on steroids:

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/whole-society-american-politics

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

I think I fit into 5+ of those categories... hopefully extra credit or extra smash. My dogs however, untouchable.

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Classic Rider's avatar

Very nice. I think it has already happened, but the Regime is too incompetent to understand it. And as MR said below, the bankers need to be attended to.

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Mike richards's avatar

Well said. The bankers need to leverage emotional energy to impose their will. There are 300 families that need to be malthused.

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