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Secret Squirrel's avatar

Dear, Zelensky. You are not a state in the US. You are not a NATO contractual ally. You are a extortionist of our leader. No more payments will be made. We are onto his “arrangement”. Suck on that.

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Tefkam's avatar

Tom Luongo’s theory, as Mark calls it the Theory of Everything, is being proven correct. The big stuff started last Wednesday, more on Friday and another blast this week. Kudos to Tom on his theory.

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Carol Jones's avatar

Be careful of Sachs-- he is an apparatchik supreme-- he puts his finger up and sees which way the wind blows. Recall his huge roll in planning the carve-up of the USSR during the 90s collapse/Yeltsin era. He works with Neo-cons (maybe Columbia needs the $$$ to continue to roll in?) and of course Ms. Clinton herself is now on staff there.

Managing the narrative as well as doing the dirty work is his forte

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Every account I've read of the Yeltsin years absolves Sachs of complicity in the Rape of Russia. Even as trenchant a critic of that period as Alex Krainer has written absolving Sachs.

That said, I understand that Sachs is certainly not in my corner. The fact that Columbia hired Hillary is certainly not Sachs' fault.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Great point and one I share. Here's my concern:

Sachs says, "We are entering the end stage of the 30-year U.S. neoconservative debacle in Ukraine. The neocon plan to surround Russia in the Black Sea region by NATO has failed. ..."

If you read between the lines (so to speak) this is framed as a [Neo]Conservative adventure and debacle. That is the ground work for laying the blame for this egg on conservatives. Most Americans do not know the background of what a neoconservative is and who they are, but certainly understand who the conservatives are........Republicans. Is Linsey Graham a neocon? No, he is a warmongering corrupt politician, but not a neocon. A neocon is a term being used to avoid the uncomfortable accusations of antisemitism to point out who is driving this conflict and why.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

I see your point, but I was speaking specifically of the US aggression in the Ukraine and who is driving that, but of course they are intertwined with the issues cited above. thanks for pointing me to your excellent comment.

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DJL's avatar

Senator Bennett (D-CO) has chosen his hill to die on, saying he would shut the government down if no Ukraine cash is in the next funding bill. Given the public souring on funding Ukraine while inflation and fuel prices run rampant here in the USA, that may not be a wise choice. Shutting down our government for Ukraine. What could go wrong?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/10/04/sen_bennet_i_certainly_would_be_willing_to_shut_the_government_down_if_ukraine_funding_is_excluded_in_cr.html

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dissonant1's avatar

Well, at least it might be on principle in his case rather than out of pure greed and corruption, like it is in too many other cases. That is only a potentiality of course.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Maybe he’ll be so upset he’ll resign. That would be a real act of principle. Never to be seen on capitol hill.

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SMH's avatar

OT, sorta, am I the only one who finds it ironic and amusing that “Charlie Brown” is Chairman of the Joint Chiefs?

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

No. It’s too sad for comment.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Great technical discussion about how FABs work was just posted by Black Mountain Analysis, https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/attacking-the-underground-objects

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eoc's avatar

I wonder if the whole thing ousting speaker Kev was a ruse to get out of the Ukraine and have someone to blame ie. if it was not those MAGA republicans the mighty Ukraine would have won. We live in interesting times. Also maybe all the DC pols accounts are full and any more funds working their way in would cause problems maybe Menendez was a warning.

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jo blo's avatar

‘Once it’s given to Ukraine it’s no longer American money.’

Well, yes and no: Some of that lucre was spent by The Piano Player's wife at Cartier (allegedly a cool $million$) in NYC and thus was "returned" safely to American hands.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Team Biden realise they can't win in Ukraine, so the only option is to stick a sock in Nuland's mouth and move on to the next glittering object. The MSM will run cover for them. However, I don't think this will work. Ukraine is like the gigantic ball that chases Harrison Ford down the tunnel. Except this time, there's no escape.

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jo blo's avatar

That next glittering object might just be Armenia, with Samantha Powers doing cookie duty subbing for Miss Vickie.

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Carol Jones's avatar

Yup between that, Syria, Serbia and Georgia --BOY is USAID and other CIA covers busy busy busy. I think the strategy is more like, lets throw a bunch of stuff at the wall and see what sticks. So transparent and frankly pathetic and embarrassing. But thats what declining /fading Empires look like.

Wait until the REAL blow back starts on the US citizens-- 2024 will be a barnburner.

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Ray Zacek's avatar

Jeez, if the Ukrainians think they are hostage to Washington DC turmoil, how do they think American citizens feel? Screw them and their corrupt country.

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Carol Jones's avatar

Blow back is a bitch isnt it?

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dissonant1's avatar

IMO, "they" (the rules based order) would never accept a Chinese role like that. As per the Russians, the former Ukraine borders will have to be guaranteed by Russian force (and that only) and whatever government Ukraine will have must be under Russian jurisdiction as a protectorate. The West is not acting in a way where any other possible outcome is possible. I know the "Blackrocks" et. al. want to fill their coffers by rebuilding Ukraine but who will provide the security when Russia refuses to allow NATO troops into the rump Ukraine?

No, the Chinese will help with the rebuild but not the security. That will be Russia.

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Maoz's avatar

Push the US into WWIII (against Russia) because hey! we won WWII, didn't we?

Uh, yeah, *together with Russia*. So where does that leave your clever plans?

[Speaking in the "editorial voice", Gavin. Not attributing their "logic to you.]

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dissonant1's avatar

Exactly. Thanks for the excellent analogy.

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dissonant1's avatar

FreeFrench, I just discovered your X account feed (via Luongo, I think?). A treasure trove! Thanks very much for that and also for you comments and opinions here, which I have appreciated for a long time now.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Thanks!

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dissonant1's avatar

The Russians knew, Obama knew, Hillary knew, Biden knew, Trump knew (and stated that he did), McConnell knew, Schumer knew, Pelosi knew, the Chinese knew, pretty much all of Washington knew (especially the Neocons), all of the European heads of state knew. They all knew war was coming unless Trump could stop it. The only people who didn't know were the general public in Europe and the U.S. because the media whores did not want us to know. How's that for Democracy and the rules based order in action?

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