Abortion being decided in the courts has allowed Dems to avoid running on and answering questions about when life begins. Even though the media will still give Dems cover, it's no longer an academic question if Roe is overturned because the actual positions Dems take could potentially become law. Dems have become so extreme on the issue that they have come oppose anything short of abortion up until the baby's first scream.
I do worry that in some situations, the benefit will be to Dems. In WI where I live, overturning Roe will see the state defer to a 173yr old law that makes it a crime for any doctor to perform any abortion. I think that's out of step politically with the state (bans after 1st trimester is probably the popular position). It's unlikely the state GOP would pass abortion enabling laws of any sort. At some point, Dems will get their political win over this issue as a complete ban on abortion in the state is not sustainable long term in WI.
Ok, if things are only going to get worse between now and November, and the “people in charge” have no respect for The Constitution, what assurance do we have that they will not just ignore the results of an unfavorable election outcome and tell the voters to get lost. When the POTUS is actively encouraging people to break the law by going to Supreme Court Judge’s homes to threaten and intimidate them in order to get an outcome that is acceptable to them, then what’s to stop him from cooking up another Russian meddling in the election fable and declaring the results invalid? Of course they’d be “reluctant to do it, but we must save our democracy!”, would be the rationale voiced by all of the usual suspects.
I can hear Lindsay Graham, Mitch Mconnell, Susan Collins and let’s not forget Mitt Romney, standing with Biden in a show of support while dismissing those who object to overriding the election as part of the dangerous MAGA cult whose objections can be dismissed as disinformation by the newly created “Ministry of Propaganda”.
I don’t know, seems like they have all their ducks in a row; a feckless, senile buffoon is POTUS, a Congress that consistently ignores the will of the people, a coward is Chief Justice of the highest court, the FBI and FBI are totally corrupt.
So will it be with “a whimper or a bang?”
I’m afraid that most people are averse to loud noises, but this next election cycle will certainly tell, because it’s definitely for all the marbles.
If there's one thing we've learned these last 6 years it's that NOTHING is off the table. It's almost impossible to imagine a scenario that is too far fetched.
Because this scenario has to include the standing ovation for Zelensky at the end of his Zoom meeting with the US Congress. And those brand-new America+Ukraine flag lapel pins sported by our Members of Congress. And Nancy Pelosi and her entourage, and Jill Biden and her entourage, jetting into Ukraine for photo ops in the middle of a war. And GWB calling Zelensky the Winston Churchill of our times.
I hope they all can stop laughing at us long enough to take a breath.
But Zelensky is a trained comedian, so. Hope he doesn't kill them.
I agree that nothing is off the table. The difficult part is being sure of exactly what the correlation of forces actually is at the moment. I try to remain optimistic but realistic.
Optimistic take: the coalition of corruptocrats disintegrates and we get a "sudden" change in dc where every rat tries to save themselves by throwing the other rats out of the boat. Will Americans fall for it or allow it?
Pessimistic take: the corruptocrats are so deep in and so dirty that they have all, essentially, agreed that they must ride this tiger to the bitter end, no matter what it takes including war, civil war, suspension of elections, you name it.
To quote Bill Clinton: "It's the economy, stupid." Not just inflation, but also GNP, employment, the markets, the supply chain, the deficit and debt and the health of the dollar. This regime can't get anything right, as ideology and 'wokeness' are more important to them than results, assuming they even have the smarts to run a country. Maybe the globalists and foreign interests would like to take us down and they are calling the shots. Come November everybody will be hurting and everything else will be off the table. Moreover people are aware and angry, so stealing the majority of 435 local elections might prove impossible.
Youngkin winning in Virginia surprised me. That gives me hope on less fraud.
The 2,000 mules movie is powerful, and I expect it to snowball. Right now there is a total media blackout on the movie, Fox News, including Tucker, won’t even mention it.
Trump continuing to hammer election fraud issue is having an impact.
And True the Vote will reveal the stash house locations. I’m very curious on who the organizations are that controlled each location.
And May be Twitter will stop censoring? Will Elon Musk be allowed to buy Twitter?
And what of Trumps Social Network, The Truth?
And Durham soldiers on, slowly deconstructing Russiagate, and threatening part of the lawfare machine that backed it, that also aided the election steal.
I wouldn't take too much hope from Youngkin "win." First, it was a damn near run thing. Much closer than people think. The usual dc burbs tried awfully hard to manufacture the needed votes to put McAuliffe over the line, so even w all the improvements in election monitors and fraud prevention, the bad guys still almost won. And when it came to the state house and senate races, there were plenty of suspicious wins for Ds. About the only lesson i take from the VA 2021 is that VA cheating hasn't YET risen to levels like CA or NY such that an idiot like McAuliffe can overcome their edge in manufactured votes. Second, i still don't trust Youngkin given his background and the notorious GOPe strategy of splitting.
I continue to believe that, whatever progress you cite, it's too little too late. Stronger medicines will be required.
Yet in the midst of all of this, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court can’t seem to bring himself to see that federal law is enforced to protect the lives of the judges on his court. I wonder what John Marshal would have done?
Trump won beyond the usual margin of cheating. 2,000 mules documents the usual method of cheating. So emergency measures had to be taken.
Will the successful cheating tactics be repeated?
Luongo is expecting over 100 MAGA types to be elected to the house, making the GOP the most nationalistic it has been in years.
School board elections are motivating disgusted parents to vote.
The price of gas and food are huge issues. It’s the economy stupid is very true this year.
I was surprised the abortion issue was deployed now, but since the decision was due in June.
Perhaps it is a Luongo wrote, an opportunity to warn others to not veer from right think. Or may be it was to distract from 2,000 mules. Or motivate turn out in the primaries. My guess is distract from 2,000 mules.
Victor Hanson wrote of a huge, rapid change in political views in the Hispanic community towards the GOP. Pro abortion demonstrators in Catholic Churches are very short sighted. The Democrats are oblivious to this.
Thanks for the links to Luongo and Zito. Amazing to also read the Luongo piece from 2020, before the steal was a done deal and the January 6 trespassers had been left to rot in jail within shouting distance of every single elected Republican member of Congress on Capitol Hill...
I think Zito is wrong. She, like Turley, writes well but for a past era in American political life and gives us false hope. America is not who she was. (Remember when Obama, our first trans-national president, kept telling us "That's not who we are!")
I think Luongo does us more good in comparing America in 2022 to Russia in 1917, than to America in 1894.
Tamsin, I view Zito as a cultural anthropologist. It is evident that she does not base the opinions she expresses on polls or political considerations emanating from DC. She bases them on talks she has with the "common" people. The "past era in American political life" still lives in the hearts of a great many in this country and therefore still has currency. In particular, as a former resident of the Keystone State, I have faith that what she reports of the cultural expanse between Philly and Pittsburgh is still meaningful for our American experience and future. When it is proven that people such as those she converses with are no longer important politically, all is lost to our Republic and whatever promise it has held. That proof (although it may be imminent) has yet to be realized.
I still think we are closer to Spain 1935. Radicals in power pushing society ever further over the edge until the military staged a coup and a short but vicious civil war broke out. The Spanish civil war is very repeatable here. All the pieces are in place.
Great question, diss. I wonder too. It's apparent that there are still some people in the US military who are undercutting some of what the Regime is puking out, particularly when it looks like the Regime might trigger outright war w Russia. Clearly appears that the military is conflicted internally and w other parts of the Regime. The way things are going i could imagine any number of scenarios where the military (or some part of it) will put down a red line that the gangsters are sure to cross.
Yeah, Ginned Up, whatever fault lines there are in the DOD are not likely to be exposed in the MSM or illuminated by Congress. That's a queasy place for us proles and for our nation to be especially when one considers the potential for nuclear war and the perverted agenda the DOD leadership has promoted recently at the expense of military readiness. Who knows?
The DC “elites” don’t see it because they’re ideologues, hangers-on, Nodding donkeys or
some such sycophantic cretin. They should watch Downfall. Deep in a bunker with Russian guns pounding the dust into more dust. All the while moving phantom armies around the board thinking Steiner will come to the rescue. Political doom on all of em. Every last one.
Question: "Who are more despicable: Schumer and Pelosi, or McConnell and McCarthy?" Hint 1: Schumer and Pelosi are brutally honest about their depravity. Hint 2: Who is the father of lies?
Republican votes may or may not be useless. It is a matter of getting enough MAGA acolytes in there to get rid of the corruption and the RINO leadership. It may not happen right away but do not be discouraged. Just vote for the people challenging the leadership and all of the other corruptocrats currently in there. It may take time but it will be worth it if we can save the country.
Sorry diss, youve got alot of smart comments but have to part w you here. Sundance has the better plan. Local elections first. State next. And maybe some secession or extreme federalism that neuters the federal government. But right now federal elections are worse than a waste of time because no one elected today can make any real changes in dc (4th Branch etc...). But frankly, the Republican party is dead set against real change and the precinct strategy has scant chance of defeating the establishment Splitter Strategy. Our system is broken. It's going to take revolutionary change. Until that happens, it's games and grifters.
I wouldn't argue with that plan - in fact I love it. Localities and states may be the best approach for the salvation of this country. But what's the harm in putting more MTGs and Boeberts in the mix? It could only help and at the federal level those are the kinds of people we are going to need in the long run. Political philosophy questions aside, we need more Rand Paul types who are at least willing to ostensibly stand up to the prevailing narrative and raise reasonable questions against it. It will take a while for the local and states to percolate up especially in the event we are going to a civil war of sorts.
Here's where i see the harm. There's a legit argument that people like MTG and Paul serve a useful purpose to the Uniparty and the DC Regime because they give the prols the illusion that there is a real opposition in DC and so hundreds of millions of dollars are thrown away funding campaigns and dc causes that have zero hope of any real change in dc. Contribute to state and locals, sure, but dc is an oligarchy racket and will be until it is erased and replaced.
Yeah that is a legit argument and I can certainly grok that point of view, Ginned. Yet the DC malignancy can't be wished away - no "Benedict Option" will work to overcome it. I suppose the question now is how best to bring about its effective replacement and that is open to debate, certainly.
Congress is decided by local elections. 435 of them. Moreover as I already commented, people are aware and angry, so stealing the majority of 435 local elections might prove impossible.
How many Congresscritters are in the unopposed "club"? My newly redistricted Congressman Roger Williams had no primary opponents and no Dems ran. Mr. Williams is not MAGA!
Let's see...
1) 40% (or even 30) think that Brandon is doing a good job.
2) Nobody has been punished for 2020 election crimes.
3) A supermajority of Congress (and likely a majority of the people) wants to go to war with a nuclear power for no national security reason
4) The Fed and the government will do nothing to right the economy (actually, they can't), so starvation will be a reality this winter.
.
I'm with Luongo.
Civil war it is.
Abortion being decided in the courts has allowed Dems to avoid running on and answering questions about when life begins. Even though the media will still give Dems cover, it's no longer an academic question if Roe is overturned because the actual positions Dems take could potentially become law. Dems have become so extreme on the issue that they have come oppose anything short of abortion up until the baby's first scream.
I do worry that in some situations, the benefit will be to Dems. In WI where I live, overturning Roe will see the state defer to a 173yr old law that makes it a crime for any doctor to perform any abortion. I think that's out of step politically with the state (bans after 1st trimester is probably the popular position). It's unlikely the state GOP would pass abortion enabling laws of any sort. At some point, Dems will get their political win over this issue as a complete ban on abortion in the state is not sustainable long term in WI.
Ok, if things are only going to get worse between now and November, and the “people in charge” have no respect for The Constitution, what assurance do we have that they will not just ignore the results of an unfavorable election outcome and tell the voters to get lost. When the POTUS is actively encouraging people to break the law by going to Supreme Court Judge’s homes to threaten and intimidate them in order to get an outcome that is acceptable to them, then what’s to stop him from cooking up another Russian meddling in the election fable and declaring the results invalid? Of course they’d be “reluctant to do it, but we must save our democracy!”, would be the rationale voiced by all of the usual suspects.
I can hear Lindsay Graham, Mitch Mconnell, Susan Collins and let’s not forget Mitt Romney, standing with Biden in a show of support while dismissing those who object to overriding the election as part of the dangerous MAGA cult whose objections can be dismissed as disinformation by the newly created “Ministry of Propaganda”.
I don’t know, seems like they have all their ducks in a row; a feckless, senile buffoon is POTUS, a Congress that consistently ignores the will of the people, a coward is Chief Justice of the highest court, the FBI and FBI are totally corrupt.
So will it be with “a whimper or a bang?”
I’m afraid that most people are averse to loud noises, but this next election cycle will certainly tell, because it’s definitely for all the marbles.
If there's one thing we've learned these last 6 years it's that NOTHING is off the table. It's almost impossible to imagine a scenario that is too far fetched.
Sad, but soooo true!
Because this scenario has to include the standing ovation for Zelensky at the end of his Zoom meeting with the US Congress. And those brand-new America+Ukraine flag lapel pins sported by our Members of Congress. And Nancy Pelosi and her entourage, and Jill Biden and her entourage, jetting into Ukraine for photo ops in the middle of a war. And GWB calling Zelensky the Winston Churchill of our times.
I hope they all can stop laughing at us long enough to take a breath.
But Zelensky is a trained comedian, so. Hope he doesn't kill them.
I agree that nothing is off the table. The difficult part is being sure of exactly what the correlation of forces actually is at the moment. I try to remain optimistic but realistic.
Optimistic take: the coalition of corruptocrats disintegrates and we get a "sudden" change in dc where every rat tries to save themselves by throwing the other rats out of the boat. Will Americans fall for it or allow it?
Pessimistic take: the corruptocrats are so deep in and so dirty that they have all, essentially, agreed that they must ride this tiger to the bitter end, no matter what it takes including war, civil war, suspension of elections, you name it.
So far, hard to be optimistic.
To quote Bill Clinton: "It's the economy, stupid." Not just inflation, but also GNP, employment, the markets, the supply chain, the deficit and debt and the health of the dollar. This regime can't get anything right, as ideology and 'wokeness' are more important to them than results, assuming they even have the smarts to run a country. Maybe the globalists and foreign interests would like to take us down and they are calling the shots. Come November everybody will be hurting and everything else will be off the table. Moreover people are aware and angry, so stealing the majority of 435 local elections might prove impossible.
Youngkin winning in Virginia surprised me. That gives me hope on less fraud.
The 2,000 mules movie is powerful, and I expect it to snowball. Right now there is a total media blackout on the movie, Fox News, including Tucker, won’t even mention it.
Trump continuing to hammer election fraud issue is having an impact.
And True the Vote will reveal the stash house locations. I’m very curious on who the organizations are that controlled each location.
And May be Twitter will stop censoring? Will Elon Musk be allowed to buy Twitter?
And what of Trumps Social Network, The Truth?
And Durham soldiers on, slowly deconstructing Russiagate, and threatening part of the lawfare machine that backed it, that also aided the election steal.
@ray
I wouldn't take too much hope from Youngkin "win." First, it was a damn near run thing. Much closer than people think. The usual dc burbs tried awfully hard to manufacture the needed votes to put McAuliffe over the line, so even w all the improvements in election monitors and fraud prevention, the bad guys still almost won. And when it came to the state house and senate races, there were plenty of suspicious wins for Ds. About the only lesson i take from the VA 2021 is that VA cheating hasn't YET risen to levels like CA or NY such that an idiot like McAuliffe can overcome their edge in manufactured votes. Second, i still don't trust Youngkin given his background and the notorious GOPe strategy of splitting.
I continue to believe that, whatever progress you cite, it's too little too late. Stronger medicines will be required.
Yet in the midst of all of this, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court can’t seem to bring himself to see that federal law is enforced to protect the lives of the judges on his court. I wonder what John Marshal would have done?
Are we headed for a blow out?
Yes, if we had clean elections.
Trump won beyond the usual margin of cheating. 2,000 mules documents the usual method of cheating. So emergency measures had to be taken.
Will the successful cheating tactics be repeated?
Luongo is expecting over 100 MAGA types to be elected to the house, making the GOP the most nationalistic it has been in years.
School board elections are motivating disgusted parents to vote.
The price of gas and food are huge issues. It’s the economy stupid is very true this year.
I was surprised the abortion issue was deployed now, but since the decision was due in June.
Perhaps it is a Luongo wrote, an opportunity to warn others to not veer from right think. Or may be it was to distract from 2,000 mules. Or motivate turn out in the primaries. My guess is distract from 2,000 mules.
Victor Hanson wrote of a huge, rapid change in political views in the Hispanic community towards the GOP. Pro abortion demonstrators in Catholic Churches are very short sighted. The Democrats are oblivious to this.
Thanks for the links to Luongo and Zito. Amazing to also read the Luongo piece from 2020, before the steal was a done deal and the January 6 trespassers had been left to rot in jail within shouting distance of every single elected Republican member of Congress on Capitol Hill...
I think Zito is wrong. She, like Turley, writes well but for a past era in American political life and gives us false hope. America is not who she was. (Remember when Obama, our first trans-national president, kept telling us "That's not who we are!")
I think Luongo does us more good in comparing America in 2022 to Russia in 1917, than to America in 1894.
Tamsin, I view Zito as a cultural anthropologist. It is evident that she does not base the opinions she expresses on polls or political considerations emanating from DC. She bases them on talks she has with the "common" people. The "past era in American political life" still lives in the hearts of a great many in this country and therefore still has currency. In particular, as a former resident of the Keystone State, I have faith that what she reports of the cultural expanse between Philly and Pittsburgh is still meaningful for our American experience and future. When it is proven that people such as those she converses with are no longer important politically, all is lost to our Republic and whatever promise it has held. That proof (although it may be imminent) has yet to be realized.
@tamsin
I still think we are closer to Spain 1935. Radicals in power pushing society ever further over the edge until the military staged a coup and a short but vicious civil war broke out. The Spanish civil war is very repeatable here. All the pieces are in place.
And what of the military? That seems to be a question of growing import in light of the Ukraine proxy war.
Great question, diss. I wonder too. It's apparent that there are still some people in the US military who are undercutting some of what the Regime is puking out, particularly when it looks like the Regime might trigger outright war w Russia. Clearly appears that the military is conflicted internally and w other parts of the Regime. The way things are going i could imagine any number of scenarios where the military (or some part of it) will put down a red line that the gangsters are sure to cross.
Yeah, Ginned Up, whatever fault lines there are in the DOD are not likely to be exposed in the MSM or illuminated by Congress. That's a queasy place for us proles and for our nation to be especially when one considers the potential for nuclear war and the perverted agenda the DOD leadership has promoted recently at the expense of military readiness. Who knows?
Link to Luongo's piece:
https://tomluongo.me/2022/05/10/ruckus-over-roe-another-racket/
From what I've seen of people screaming in the streets to murder babies... I wouldn't be surprised of Noah shows up this year.
The DC “elites” don’t see it because they’re ideologues, hangers-on, Nodding donkeys or
some such sycophantic cretin. They should watch Downfall. Deep in a bunker with Russian guns pounding the dust into more dust. All the while moving phantom armies around the board thinking Steiner will come to the rescue. Political doom on all of em. Every last one.
CTH pointed this one out too. Electing 535 Republicans to Congress is useless because this:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/05/10/senate-leadership-agree-the-most-important-focus-for-legislation-is-massive-ukraine-spending-package/#more-232910
I'd say "madness" except that they're all paid off.
Question: "Who are more despicable: Schumer and Pelosi, or McConnell and McCarthy?" Hint 1: Schumer and Pelosi are brutally honest about their depravity. Hint 2: Who is the father of lies?
Republican votes may or may not be useless. It is a matter of getting enough MAGA acolytes in there to get rid of the corruption and the RINO leadership. It may not happen right away but do not be discouraged. Just vote for the people challenging the leadership and all of the other corruptocrats currently in there. It may take time but it will be worth it if we can save the country.
Sorry diss, youve got alot of smart comments but have to part w you here. Sundance has the better plan. Local elections first. State next. And maybe some secession or extreme federalism that neuters the federal government. But right now federal elections are worse than a waste of time because no one elected today can make any real changes in dc (4th Branch etc...). But frankly, the Republican party is dead set against real change and the precinct strategy has scant chance of defeating the establishment Splitter Strategy. Our system is broken. It's going to take revolutionary change. Until that happens, it's games and grifters.
I wouldn't argue with that plan - in fact I love it. Localities and states may be the best approach for the salvation of this country. But what's the harm in putting more MTGs and Boeberts in the mix? It could only help and at the federal level those are the kinds of people we are going to need in the long run. Political philosophy questions aside, we need more Rand Paul types who are at least willing to ostensibly stand up to the prevailing narrative and raise reasonable questions against it. It will take a while for the local and states to percolate up especially in the event we are going to a civil war of sorts.
@diss
Here's where i see the harm. There's a legit argument that people like MTG and Paul serve a useful purpose to the Uniparty and the DC Regime because they give the prols the illusion that there is a real opposition in DC and so hundreds of millions of dollars are thrown away funding campaigns and dc causes that have zero hope of any real change in dc. Contribute to state and locals, sure, but dc is an oligarchy racket and will be until it is erased and replaced.
Yeah that is a legit argument and I can certainly grok that point of view, Ginned. Yet the DC malignancy can't be wished away - no "Benedict Option" will work to overcome it. I suppose the question now is how best to bring about its effective replacement and that is open to debate, certainly.
Congress is decided by local elections. 435 of them. Moreover as I already commented, people are aware and angry, so stealing the majority of 435 local elections might prove impossible.
How many Congresscritters are in the unopposed "club"? My newly redistricted Congressman Roger Williams had no primary opponents and no Dems ran. Mr. Williams is not MAGA!
It's already the issue.