I thought I’d speak on the propaganda that comes out of the “Lobby” and the Holocaust Museum. During one of my sojourns to the FBI National Academy was a side trip to the museum. It’s a very moving experience. The museum sponsored my group to a luncheon and lecture, of which the main topic was how easily German civilian law enforcement went along with the Nazis. All was fine until as proof they started showing old photos as proof. A table mate and I (as both amateur photographers) started discussing how the “depth of field” of the photos was being manipulated to prove the presenters point. I guess our dissent proved obvious as the presenter called us out for our, I guess obvious disagreement. Woe on him for publicly challenging a couple veteran cops, as we took it as permission to dismantle his presentation. My friend summed it up very nicely at the end. He said, “no one here denies horrible things happened to the Jewish people in Germany, but don’t fabricate evidence to support your position to intelligent people, as it only opens up yourself to skeptics. “
I’ll add, one of our FBI sponsors told us after, well you didn’t make any friends there. But I’ve seen that lecture a dozen times and now I see it in a whole new light. That guy I’m sure never made SAC
Interesting. If you dig into the scholarship on this topic you come across a wide spectrum of views and "facts"--among Jewish scholars, not just deniers.
I will tell you that LJ got back to me and doubled down. He wrote:
"Do you think it is a simple coincidence that the major extermination centers were all located in Poland?"
I can't tell you how many times Jews have said that to me to prove that Poles were somehow the real perps. I responded:
2. No, I don't think it was coincidence that the major death camps were in Poland. A glance at this map [https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jewish-population-of-europe-in-1933-population-data-by-country] with the figures for pre-WW2 Jewish population by country shows that the logistics demanded that the death camps be placed where there were the most Jews. The Wikipedia article "Extermination camp" explains it all so that even a child can understand: "For political and logistical reasons, the most infamous Nazi German killing factories were built in occupied Poland, where most of the intended victims lived; Poland had the greatest Jewish population in Nazi-controlled Europe.[39] On top of that, the new death camps outside of Germany's prewar borders could be kept secret from the German civil populace.[40]"
3. It's the same reason that Auschwitz was located in Poland--because the first people sent there were the Polish intelligentsia who were slated for extermination. 3 million ethnic Poles died in WW2. Poland had by far the most Jews--and the most Poles.
In reference to the bogus WMD excuse to launch the failed Iraqi adventure, wasn’t that Trump’s original sin? He had called out little Jeb during the primaries in 2015 for his brother’s failed policies. He had gone against the establishment narrative and called attention to the failure of the permanent government and their wars of regime change in the name of democracy. Ever since that time he sealed his fate with the deep state as a threat to their operation.
There are always "a multiplicity of culprits" . . . seems to me that many of them reside within Satanyahoo, his real name must be Legion, likewise the Neocons: for they are many.
They are many. The Neocons reproduce themselves with incentive structures that gather in willing workers, in every generation, in Israel and in the US.
It is clearly very hard to NOT be a Neocon, and still get ahead in the US even though we are so "free".
Mark's news at the end of his post, about Israel currently bombing Lebanon's financial institutions, has prompted me to add the following site as another place to check for the latest news. They mention the current bombing, but no additional info yet.
Rallies organized by Likud and other right-wing groups featured depictions of Rabin in a Nazi SS uniform, or in the crosshairs of a gun. Protesters compared the Labor party to the Nazis and Rabin to Adolf Hitler and chanted, "Rabin is a murderer" and "Rabin is a traitor". In July 1995, Netanyahu led a mock funeral procession featuring a coffin and hangman's noose at an anti-Rabin rally where protesters chanted, "Death to Rabin". The chief of internal security, Carmi Gillon, then alerted Netanyahu of a plot on Rabin's life and asked him to moderate the protests' rhetoric, which Netanyahu declined to do.”
Isn’t this the exact playbook the Democrats have been playing in this election? In fact I’ve been playing with Trump since 2016. And what if the consequences been in this current election season we have seen two possible assassination attempts on Trump all pushed by the rhetoric of hate and violence by the left., Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris. The irony being that they are the one saying that Trump needs to tone the rhetoric down when he has not in any shape form or fashion, pushed violence against the Democrats or Democrats leaders. It’s evident that the Democrats are absolute mendacious hypocrites willing to lie steel or cheat to win at any cost. The cost being our way of life and our form of government.
I thought I’d speak on the propaganda that comes out of the “Lobby” and the Holocaust Museum. During one of my sojourns to the FBI National Academy was a side trip to the museum. It’s a very moving experience. The museum sponsored my group to a luncheon and lecture, of which the main topic was how easily German civilian law enforcement went along with the Nazis. All was fine until as proof they started showing old photos as proof. A table mate and I (as both amateur photographers) started discussing how the “depth of field” of the photos was being manipulated to prove the presenters point. I guess our dissent proved obvious as the presenter called us out for our, I guess obvious disagreement. Woe on him for publicly challenging a couple veteran cops, as we took it as permission to dismantle his presentation. My friend summed it up very nicely at the end. He said, “no one here denies horrible things happened to the Jewish people in Germany, but don’t fabricate evidence to support your position to intelligent people, as it only opens up yourself to skeptics. “
I’ll add, one of our FBI sponsors told us after, well you didn’t make any friends there. But I’ve seen that lecture a dozen times and now I see it in a whole new light. That guy I’m sure never made SAC
Interesting. If you dig into the scholarship on this topic you come across a wide spectrum of views and "facts"--among Jewish scholars, not just deniers.
I will tell you that LJ got back to me and doubled down. He wrote:
"Do you think it is a simple coincidence that the major extermination centers were all located in Poland?"
I can't tell you how many times Jews have said that to me to prove that Poles were somehow the real perps. I responded:
2. No, I don't think it was coincidence that the major death camps were in Poland. A glance at this map [https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jewish-population-of-europe-in-1933-population-data-by-country] with the figures for pre-WW2 Jewish population by country shows that the logistics demanded that the death camps be placed where there were the most Jews. The Wikipedia article "Extermination camp" explains it all so that even a child can understand: "For political and logistical reasons, the most infamous Nazi German killing factories were built in occupied Poland, where most of the intended victims lived; Poland had the greatest Jewish population in Nazi-controlled Europe.[39] On top of that, the new death camps outside of Germany's prewar borders could be kept secret from the German civil populace.[40]"
3. It's the same reason that Auschwitz was located in Poland--because the first people sent there were the Polish intelligentsia who were slated for extermination. 3 million ethnic Poles died in WW2. Poland had by far the most Jews--and the most Poles.
Trump is unpredictable.
If he stops WW3, he will be a Hero.
Otherwise he is just more of the same.
He wants to be a Hero.
I agree. There is that in his makeup.
Russia has not committed to defend Lebanon yet.
Russia has committed to defend Iran.
In reference to the bogus WMD excuse to launch the failed Iraqi adventure, wasn’t that Trump’s original sin? He had called out little Jeb during the primaries in 2015 for his brother’s failed policies. He had gone against the establishment narrative and called attention to the failure of the permanent government and their wars of regime change in the name of democracy. Ever since that time he sealed his fate with the deep state as a threat to their operation.
Is he now trying to redeem himself in their (deep state) eyes, by going hard verbally against Iran? If so, he’s one confused puppy.
Confusing the enemy - by that I mean the Deep State,
There are always "a multiplicity of culprits" . . . seems to me that many of them reside within Satanyahoo, his real name must be Legion, likewise the Neocons: for they are many.
They are many. The Neocons reproduce themselves with incentive structures that gather in willing workers, in every generation, in Israel and in the US.
It is clearly very hard to NOT be a Neocon, and still get ahead in the US even though we are so "free".
Mark's news at the end of his post, about Israel currently bombing Lebanon's financial institutions, has prompted me to add the following site as another place to check for the latest news. They mention the current bombing, but no additional info yet.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live/live-israel-hezbollah-gaza-lebanon-beirut-hamas-war-strike
Rallies organized by Likud and other right-wing groups featured depictions of Rabin in a Nazi SS uniform, or in the crosshairs of a gun. Protesters compared the Labor party to the Nazis and Rabin to Adolf Hitler and chanted, "Rabin is a murderer" and "Rabin is a traitor". In July 1995, Netanyahu led a mock funeral procession featuring a coffin and hangman's noose at an anti-Rabin rally where protesters chanted, "Death to Rabin". The chief of internal security, Carmi Gillon, then alerted Netanyahu of a plot on Rabin's life and asked him to moderate the protests' rhetoric, which Netanyahu declined to do.”
Isn’t this the exact playbook the Democrats have been playing in this election? In fact I’ve been playing with Trump since 2016. And what if the consequences been in this current election season we have seen two possible assassination attempts on Trump all pushed by the rhetoric of hate and violence by the left., Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris. The irony being that they are the one saying that Trump needs to tone the rhetoric down when he has not in any shape form or fashion, pushed violence against the Democrats or Democrats leaders. It’s evident that the Democrats are absolute mendacious hypocrites willing to lie steel or cheat to win at any cost. The cost being our way of life and our form of government.