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Where are the vaccine deaths?

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Sort of a modern take on The Opium Wars, whether the assailants on our culture are coming from inside the house, not without.

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May 23, 2023·edited May 23, 2023

Regarding the role of marijuana in the ongoing suicide epidemic: the very same things can be said about the ever increasing use of psychotropic pharmaceuticals — especially those given the devilishly ironic label of “antidepressant.”

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Right. Cf. spree shooting, mass murder, etc.

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"Teens who use cannabis recreationally are two to four times as likely to develop psychiatric disorders, such as depression and suicidality." This is not a new discovery. I remember reading about marijuana usage and the associated risk of mental illness decades ago. Additionally, I happen to have known two people who became schizophrenic after engaging in habitual marijuana use. But anecdotes aside, now there is this new study:

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/young-men-highest-risk-schizophrenia-linked-cannabis-use-disorder

When it comes to new sources of tax revenue, however, no risk to individuals and society is too great to deter our government caretakers (or so it seems). The cancer of inaction? Quite the contrary. The politicians have encouraged all of the personal and societal destruction. For example, they have purposefully enabled the "poisonings" and other ill effects of Fentanyl by allowing it to pour over our borders unattenuated. They have allowed the Federal Government to poison the population with Covid "vaccines" literally with impunity. When they have done these things, why would they care about the dangerous impacts of Marijuana or any other drugs on our society?

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Using marijuana for medicinal purposes may have sounded like a good idea and has been proven to provide beneficial results for many health issues but the cannabis available to the masses is no longer the same 'weed' or 'pot' used back in the day, when considered "natural" with a potency of no more than 5 -10 percent.

This stuff today is a completely different and truly a drug. There is a huge race to grow/sell cannabis products that provide a 'bigger high'. Some states have capped the sale and use of cannabis products to a maximum THC potency of 30%." Higher potency of THC vapors have shown to cause respiratory problems, loss of consciousness, and psychosis among other health risks. I personally tried this once after decades of nonuse (last time college/20's) while being tortured by my HOA after moving into a new home. Was expecting to calm down, watch birds tweet and inhale a bag of chips. Totally different deal-scared the crap out of me. Started watching Fox news and thought the murdochs were sending me secret messages through Tucker. Hah! I cannot imagine these kids using this stuff recreationally and frequently. Must have been part of "the plan" and a designed precursor to the vax and Fentanyl infestation.

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Risk of psychotic break is now well documented. I don't doubt that this fuels a lot of the inner city violence.

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You asked the question, but you didn't really try to answer it! It's easily answered, though. We're nearly a decade into this experiment, in the US anyway. Just do some jurisdiction comparisons. Look at California, Colorado, Washington and Oregon, Montana, etc.

So, who benefits financially from decriminalization of cannabis? Growers, retailers, and various product entrepreneurs in the middle. These are almost all small businesses, because the big guys (like the tobacco industry) aren't getting involved in the market until the federal laws change. Conversely, you might ask, who benefits from criminalized cannabis? Growers, dealers, a bunch of crooked cops and judges, and lawyers. None of this is at all surprising to anyone familiar with the history of Prohibition. And, by the way, the demon alcohol still claims lives, ruins families, etc. It never stopped. I know you don't care for libertarians, and I sympathize. But how do you feel about personal responsibility? How do you feel about the nanny state?

If you really want to see corruption at an industrial scale, you'll have to turn your attention to the legal drugs. Addiction and poisoning combined with captured regulation and obscene profit across a national market, and scummy physicians to boot: have a look at the opioid industry. The Sackler family, who owns Oxycontin, make a nice little case study. And, oh look! There's the DoJ, helping them out.

Below I'm quoting Jeff Childers article from just this morning:

https://open.substack.com/pub/coffeeandcovid/p/bridge-and-borises-monday-may-22

The Sacklers own Purdue Pharmaceutical, maker of the safe and effective, Food and Drug Administration-approved painkiller Oxycontin. The CDC attributed half a million deaths to Oxy-related overdoses in the two decades between 1999 and 2019.

Thank goodness for big government and crack protective agencies like the FDA.

In March, a court approved a $6 billion dollar settlement with the Sackler clan — the largest such penalty to date — in exchange for a complete release from civil liability. The settlement was significant because late last year — before eight U.S. state Attorneys General objected to the deal, the DoJ had asked the court to approve a much-lower $4 billion settlement that would have released the Sacklers from both civil AND criminal liability.

In addition to being $2 billion more, the current settlement also bans the Sacklers from the opioid industry and, together with Purdue, requires them to publicly disclose over 30 million documents, including some that were previously withheld as attorney-client privileged. Purdue Pharmaceutical will have to be dissolved or sold by next year (2024).

The settlement gained preliminary approval on March 9th from a U.S. bankruptcy judge, but in a twist, it had to be approved over the newly-discovered objections of the DoJ and twenty other states — none of whom had objected to the previous cheaper, sweeter deal. Presiding Bankruptcy Judge Robert Drain called the settlement an “extraordinary” improvement on previous deals with the Sacklers, and he blasted the U.S Department of Justice as “reprehensible” for its continued opposition.

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Most of the search results I came up with were to the effect that it's almost impossible for the little guy to make money. Which I presume means there's still a big black market.

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Indeed, Mark, the black market flourishes.

I'll try to stay in my 'experience' lane: I live 2 miles from Oregon, ran trucks and a trucking company in Washington and Oregon, own property in Washington State and have family there (I having been born in Seattle in the 50's). I've grown children with lives buried in the 'drug culture' which basics are in Pot and expands/contracts according to financial variances. Marijuana is constant. Alcohol is as well. (Shy Boy has really good points on that can-of-worms). I also have a grown son who overcame the drug culture; now 45 and successful. As in happy, wife, 2 growing sons and earns his own way. Proudly. He shares the concern I've expressed about MJ but has much deeper experience with significant other drugs - street and legal.

My point is the black market in pot is predominant in volume and money: the reason is really pretty basic and unsurprising: Taxes. The same grow-organizations produce much more for the black market using legal production as a front. Profit margins are huge in the illegal channels which more often than not share the same infrastructure as the legal ones. Unsurprising.

What is a scary thought is the reported numbers of Taxes collected are huge: yet likely represent perhaps 1/2 of the actual MJ sales/consumption. Scary may be my understatement of the week. As always Mark, thanks for your info and this format. I wish you and yours the absolute best! (WrH)

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My fear is that America will turn into something like Yemen, with its qat use. I think we're seeing it in our inner cities. Anecdotal. In our entire previously highly rated high school district this year there were 4 national merit finalists. In one of my sons' graduating class of 30 from a private school in the same district there were 2 or 3. Covid Regime? Dope? Educational decline?

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It's a grey market, because of the federal laws. Little guys make little money. From what I can tell, they go into that business because, like small entrepreneurs everywhere, they're passionate. Just like restauranteurs or microbrewers, they're just not necessarily passionate about the health of their customers.

When RJ Reynolds (or somebody else at that scale) gets in on it, they'll all go broke in a hurry.

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I do think that the various kinds of damage done from the wave of marijuana normalization that happened in the 1960s and 70s, long before any kind of legalization, should be taken into consideration as well. Maybe even the "reefer madness" of the 1920s and 30s. But I don't think that "utter stupidity" is a sufficient account of for what's going on here.

Nobody's mentioned crack cocaine or heroin or methamphetamine yet, but their human costs have also been severe despite never having been decriminalized.

I don't think these kinds of problems ever really get solved at the legislative level. They are cultural or perhaps spiritual in nature.

I think the best outcome we could realistically hope for is a cultural shift and acknowledgement of the harms, like we've managed to accomplish with tobacco, and perhaps to a lesser extent with alcohol.

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G'day all,

In Mark's earlier post the Culture War (s) were spotlighted. I may view the demise of the American Culture more from a point of view of subversion via lessor "Cultures' afflictions". One might describe a 'Drug Culture', for instance, in which an aspect of the greater war is engaged by promotion and legalization of Cannabis.

In 'Unreported Truths', Alex Berenson's Substack, he's well known for his reporting on Covid et al, but has authored important books on the Marijuana crisis. Particularly the link between Cannabis and Schizophrenia recently is right in line with this post { https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/tell-your-children }.

My personal experience may be anecdotal - one case does not make a rule. I have maintained the 'innocuous' treatment by the general public of MJ usage was (and is) a huge mistake. I've maintained that MJ use had significant, far reaching, broad and long lasting negative impact on users, family and society well beyond any 'gateway drug' prospect. "One can operate a vehicle much better than when drunk" is not an indicator of a relative harmlessness in a drug's usage. Dangerously, the benign appearance of MJ leads users into an often life-long degeneration, masked in denial and clouded comprehensions. How many pot smokers do you know who actually are successful in life? Rarely happy, occasionally financially viable but generally not successful would be my average observation.

Folks, warn your children (as Alex Berensen suggests). This posting by Mark shows hazards I failed to be aware of. I'll submit, there's much, much more and little (if any) value or compensation for the damage. To my friends and fellow Meaning in History readers I wish a most blessed week! (WrH)

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If we're just talking about mortality, have a look at that dark red line at the top of the chart, euphemistically labeled "Transportation".

Mass licensing and ubiquitous private operation of automobiles is not benign. The numbers couldn't be clearer. Droves of drivers, their ill-fated passengers, and the odd collateral pedestrian are constantly sacrificed on our nation's highways and streets. You may be a careful driver your whole life and then, like my neighbor's mom, be snuffed out by some drunk idiot one night. But the autonomy we gain thereby is such a large part of our cultural mythos, and our economy... and all that infrastructure has already been built. So we all just look the other way.

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I have a block wall at the rear of my property. On the other side is a residential two-lane street, two mile long between stoplights, Straight. A month ago someone hit my neighbors block wall, straight on, going through it. Driver was able to back up and squeal away. He's a tech guy and has amazing cameras, incl sound.

Definitely Distracted. Could very well be the dreaded cell phone, but the high speed and sharp left on a straight road led us to vote substance.

Another driving issue we have here on the border, is the number of illegals driving , and the growing numbers of hit and runs and vehicle theft. Nobody talks about it so please don't tell anyone, it's a secret.

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G'evening SB,

I hope I didn't present that MJ use connects to traffic fatalities. They may, of course, but "distracted driving" kills many more folks, including alcohol BTW. (i.e. cell phones/texts etc.).

I've got perhaps 4 million miles on the road. Seen way too much of that carnage you refer to. But I think that cultural mythos is significantly connected with that weird American concept of the Liberty and Freedom driving provides.

I'll note, like gun ownership, if one is not responsible in their exercise of our Freedoms -such as driving- can certainly be disastrous. On many levels beyond the direct victims - (family etc.) Thanks for your great points. My very best regards sir! (WrH)

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To continue in the automotive vein, way back when, our college pastor at Davis asked us, “would you drive over the Golden Gate bridge if it had no sides?” Without limits, he was saying, freedom is meaningless, even calamitous, and look what we have now: no limits, everywhere.

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May 23, 2023·edited May 23, 2023

Suicide numbers are usually under reported due to the shame issue.

I would double or triple them.

I wonder…

A person high school fellow student I admired. He seemed perfect. Football player, top academic, charismatic. Super popular. Committed suicide 40 years ago. Probably used pot.

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Ray, my 'history' shares similar questions. Sold as harmless, as wrongfully targeted as being illegal, as 'better than alcohol' and so forth MJ is evil in it's subversive effects.

It was actually hard for me to 'like' your post - not because you're wrong but because I think you're right. Our friends and loved ones have been affected - the MJ lie hurts me just now. Best regards sir. (WrH)

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I did not see pot as a major problem till the last couple of years. Then I noticed some users I met being paranoid. And reading on the increased mental issues is worrying.

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More and more studies. And of course there are other drugs in the mix, prescription and non. Where's the tox report on the Nashville killer? But the inner cities are awash in drugs and cannabis is the base of it all. Everywhere. You see the results in the news, but there's lots you don't see.

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Agree, lots being hidden. Andy Ngo suggested a link on trans and violence, and how it’s being hidden.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1646668252502716417

Another possible link is on anti depressants and mass murders. And anti depressants to suicides.

And transition drugs seem to have a psychological impact.

And I feel I’m going into very tin foil hat territory, something even a year so I would have dismissed. Does excess vaccines increases autism. Possibly giving a bunch of vaxes at same time may cause issues. Spacing them out is better. And some May no longer be needed.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/vaccines-cause-autism

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Gangster Government. The government is now the drug dealer, the bookie, and soon maybe the pimp. All for our safety of course. Fun and profit off of the misery of others. What a country we have become.

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Yes, precisely. The “opiate of the peole” is being replaced by real opiates…

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Well said. Why I have no patience with Libertarians and SCOTUS justices under that influence who say we can all just invent meaning for ourselves. Recipe for societal collapse.

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May 23, 2023·edited May 23, 2023

Culling the herds with mass injections. CDC can code them however they please, and fudge the data in many clever ways. The boards of directors can fire the life insurance executives who don't keep quiet, but the shareholders still lose money when the payouts continue to severely exceed the actuarial tables. The propaganda industry has become adept at mass gaslighting, but our formerly healthy friends and family members are still keeling over at unprecedented rates, and some of us can't help but wonder why. Must be climate change.

https://open.substack.com/pub/wherearethenumbers/p/manipulating-mortality

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