There are troubling revelations and events today, which call into question the role of the military within the American Empire. Book Reveals Gen Milley Secretly Sabotaged Trump, Called China, Sparking Talk Of Treason Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley - who just facilitated the transfer of billions of dollars of US military hardware to America's enemies during the botched Afghanistan pullout - engaged in a 'top-secret' mission to undermine President Trump
Holy crap. When even **this guy** says you've gone too far in breaking chain of command and engaging in treasonous behavior, you know you've gone way, way, way too far.
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If this is true GEN Milley must resign. He usurped civilian authority, broke Chain of Command, and violated the sacrosanct principle of civilian control over the military. It’s an extremely dangerous precedent. You can’t simply walk away from that. #dotherightthingintherightway twitter.com/washingtonpost…
I call it treason. Apparently the transcript of his telcon with Pelosi is a doozy. Cancels out the criticisms that the book seems to be based upon information from anonymous sources. I looked up Milley’s bio when I first saw him because he didn’t sound right and he didn’t look right and all those ribbons and hashmarks on his sleeve - the trappings - didn’t jibe with what we’d seen on generals of far greater stature…like Eisenhower, for example. And he is quite short. His height cannot be found anywhere but photos of him standing with other men tell that tale. Shortness alone is not a sign but with other attributes, it definitely says things to me. Men do not like to be short.
Additionally, his bio revealed that his father wanted him to go to West Point, but he didn’t want to do so. He instead went to Princeton, was a party person, long hair, the whole bit. Not sure of the timing, but he could have been driven into the ROTC by the possibility of being drafted. He went from the Princeton ROTC to where he is now.
Alexander Vindman is highly critical of what he did. That says a lot!
Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information. If a subversive act has any tendency to weaken the power of the United States to attack or resist its enemies, aid and comfort has been given.
The Treason Clause applies only to disloyal acts committed during times of war. Acts of dis-loyalty during peacetime are not considered treasonous under the Constitution. Nor do acts of Espionage committed on behalf of an ally constitute treason. For example, julius and ethel rosenberg were convicted of espionage, in 1951, for helping the Soviet Union steal atomic secrets from the United States during World War II. The Rosenbergs were not tried for treason because the United States and the Soviet Union were allies during World War II.
Have a look at the U.S. Code, Section 18. Milley could fit into more than one slot there. For example, Milley told subordinates what he was attempting to do and why and urged them to follow his lead and not let the President prevail:
Section 2387 Activities affecting armed forces generally
(a) Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:
(1) advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or (more)
“Milley also summoned senior officers to review the procedures for launching nuclear weapons, saying the president alone could give the order — but, crucially, that he, Milley, also had to be involved. Looking each in the eye, Milley asked the officers to affirm that they had understood, the authors write, in what he considered an ‘oath.’"
There are a lot of moving parts here. I won't pretend I understand it. One thing, though--if this is intended to reflect badly on Trump and boost Zhou, I think that's gonna backfire. But, if that's the strategery, then it shows real desperation.
Even Vindman thinks he done wrong!!!!
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Holy crap. When even **this guy** says you've gone too far in breaking chain of command and engaging in treasonous behavior, you know you've gone way, way, way too far.
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If this is true GEN Milley must resign. He usurped civilian authority, broke Chain of Command, and violated the sacrosanct principle of civilian control over the military. It’s an extremely dangerous precedent. You can’t simply walk away from that. #dotherightthingintherightway twitter.com/washingtonpost…
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I call it treason. Apparently the transcript of his telcon with Pelosi is a doozy. Cancels out the criticisms that the book seems to be based upon information from anonymous sources. I looked up Milley’s bio when I first saw him because he didn’t sound right and he didn’t look right and all those ribbons and hashmarks on his sleeve - the trappings - didn’t jibe with what we’d seen on generals of far greater stature…like Eisenhower, for example. And he is quite short. His height cannot be found anywhere but photos of him standing with other men tell that tale. Shortness alone is not a sign but with other attributes, it definitely says things to me. Men do not like to be short.
Additionally, his bio revealed that his father wanted him to go to West Point, but he didn’t want to do so. He instead went to Princeton, was a party person, long hair, the whole bit. Not sure of the timing, but he could have been driven into the ROTC by the possibility of being drafted. He went from the Princeton ROTC to where he is now.
Alexander Vindman is highly critical of what he did. That says a lot!
Pelosi’s going down too.
PS. I am #3 in line for the book at one of our local libraries.
Makes me ponder on how much of this type of behavior we're expected to ignore before John Q Public finally looses it in a legit way.
Or what line in the sand is finally an/the *actual line* to the average Joe that cares.
Fed up and kinda over it...
It'll sure be interesting to see whether this plays out. It makes sense, and perhaps it makes sense out of Austin refusing to testify:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/14/cnn-and-wapo-write-devastating-articles-outlining-general-mark-milley-as-leader-of-military-coup-against-president-trump
Perhaps Austin was busy with the Miley news today?
One thing about this view--where does Pelosi come out? She was clearly complicit with Milley. If he goes ...? Yeah, I know she has protection, but ...
Nick Arama goes there:
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/09/14/talk-about-a-coup-it-was-pelosi-who-pushed-milley-to-act-against-trump-n442936
She wasn’t just complicit. She egged him on.
And Trump, even if no longer President, continues to unmask the lies in DC.
I probably should've written in more detail re treason. Here's a link with interesting commentary that seems sound to me:
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/treason
For example:
Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information. If a subversive act has any tendency to weaken the power of the United States to attack or resist its enemies, aid and comfort has been given.
The Treason Clause applies only to disloyal acts committed during times of war. Acts of dis-loyalty during peacetime are not considered treasonous under the Constitution. Nor do acts of Espionage committed on behalf of an ally constitute treason. For example, julius and ethel rosenberg were convicted of espionage, in 1951, for helping the Soviet Union steal atomic secrets from the United States during World War II. The Rosenbergs were not tried for treason because the United States and the Soviet Union were allies during World War II.
Have a look at the U.S. Code, Section 18. Milley could fit into more than one slot there. For example, Milley told subordinates what he was attempting to do and why and urged them to follow his lead and not let the President prevail:
Section 2387 Activities affecting armed forces generally
(a) Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:
(1) advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or (more)
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim
Thanks.
From Becker’s WaPo article:
“Milley also summoned senior officers to review the procedures for launching nuclear weapons, saying the president alone could give the order — but, crucially, that he, Milley, also had to be involved. Looking each in the eye, Milley asked the officers to affirm that they had understood, the authors write, in what he considered an ‘oath.’"
The multiple sourcing--as it appears to be--lends credibility, for sure.
Yeah is one of those words that rates up there with "RICO" for me... Sounds all great and tough but no one ever comes to the reality of, it isn't.
Applicable only during war time and with a whopping total of 12'ish convictions in US history it's a bad path to cheer for.
It does however deflect well from the numinous other realistic charges that could apply... Which I think is often the point.
There are a lot of moving parts here. I won't pretend I understand it. One thing, though--if this is intended to reflect badly on Trump and boost Zhou, I think that's gonna backfire. But, if that's the strategery, then it shows real desperation.
And another good link:
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/09/14/huge-mark-milley-pledged-to-the-chinese-to-commit-treason-in-order-to-undermine-donald-trump-n442812
I can smell the bananas.
Yeah, unless Congresscritters grow some stones.