I don't want anyone to be killed. But I would like to point out that, wasn't it just last week(?), Netanyahu was in the US. If Iran killed him when he was here, that would be pretty much the same thing (killing a head of state while in an ally's country) as what we did to the leader of Hamas. Given our secret service can't protect former presidents, it would not have been out of the realm of possibility. And what would that have done to Israel and its war against the world? Netanyahu has plenty of enemies. It could be someone non-aligned who pulled the trigger, as they did against Trump.
S.J.Res.106 - A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against the Islamic Republic of Iran for threatening the national security of the United States through the development of nuclear weapons
I have wondered, don't know if you have any opinions on this. If Evan was CIA, why did they send such a young, inexperienced person over there? That was always my first impression when I had heard he was arrested.
Iran might and probably should settle for a limited response this time, but the problem is, as we all know here, that Netanyahu will just keep on upping the stakes until Iran and Hezbollah have no choice but to hit back really hard.
Mark, I said yesterday on one of your other threads then I felt Netanyahu was leading Israel down the garden path to destruction. Given what you put out today about Netanyahu telling Iran and Lebanon that Israel is fully prepared for all out war in that region is absurd. From all I am reading they do not have the resources to carry out that kind of war. The resources from what I read are stretched , they bungled The war in Gaza and made it a genocidal atrocity when they didn’t have to.
So now Israel and Netanyahu are ready to go to total war. I think it will lead to their total destruction in the long run. Megalomania has just gone beyond the pale. I am assuming that if he goes to total war, then the United States will have no choice but to support it and possibly send our own men and women into harms way. I don’t believe the American public will support such a war.
It will be interesting to see how this will affect the election if Netanyahu ends up invading South Lebanon and taking on Hezbollah which will have the backing of Iran. How will the Biden administration handle this and how will Kamala Harris respond to this?
Spot on. I doubt that Israel will win such a war, but I also doubt that the US, if they get involved, will either. If they couldn't take the heat the Houthis brought, how can they take what Hez and Iran are going to dish out? Their bases in Syria and Iraq will become mini-Dien Bien Phus, completely isolated and indefensible, and their carriers will be sunk by hypersonics. And that's not counting any intervention by Russia, Turkey and China.
What you're saying makes total sense to me. I think I said yesterday that the dynamics of political funding in the US are such that both parties, and especially the GOP, will support a war. The GOP will foolishly think that it's on someone else's watch, anyway, and Trump will repeat his mantra--would never have happened if I were still POTUS. But, as you say, such a war won't go well and the American people are largely fed up with forever war. They will be harsh in evaluating who was behind it all. Again, the big question is how this would look during an election campaign.
Would the U.S.A. be willing to carpet bomb Southern Lebanon if Israel was teetering? Given that there is no proper leadership in Washington, it would be the shadow nutters making such decisions wouldn't it?
I don't want anyone to be killed. But I would like to point out that, wasn't it just last week(?), Netanyahu was in the US. If Iran killed him when he was here, that would be pretty much the same thing (killing a head of state while in an ally's country) as what we did to the leader of Hamas. Given our secret service can't protect former presidents, it would not have been out of the realm of possibility. And what would that have done to Israel and its war against the world? Netanyahu has plenty of enemies. It could be someone non-aligned who pulled the trigger, as they did against Trump.
stop being rationale Jeff. Do you think Netanyahu stays in the same DC guesthouse each time he visits?
What if? That is all.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/106
Lindsey says:
S.J.Res.106 - A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against the Islamic Republic of Iran for threatening the national security of the United States through the development of nuclear weapons
President Harris would never allow us to injure Iran.
I have wondered, don't know if you have any opinions on this. If Evan was CIA, why did they send such a young, inexperienced person over there? That was always my first impression when I had heard he was arrested.
Daniel McAdams has pointed out that the WSJ has never really offered any counter case--they deny that he was CIA, but without any real backup facts.
Douglas Macgregor @DougAMacgregor:
Unless someone intervenes and says you can't do this or we won't support you, I don't see much hope for a positive outcome in Israel.
This will end up becoming a death struggle and I'm not sure Israel will survive.
Iran might and probably should settle for a limited response this time, but the problem is, as we all know here, that Netanyahu will just keep on upping the stakes until Iran and Hezbollah have no choice but to hit back really hard.
LJ is maintaining that a "bigger" war is inevitable:
https://sonar21.com/we-are-headed-to-war-in-the-middle-east/
Mark, I said yesterday on one of your other threads then I felt Netanyahu was leading Israel down the garden path to destruction. Given what you put out today about Netanyahu telling Iran and Lebanon that Israel is fully prepared for all out war in that region is absurd. From all I am reading they do not have the resources to carry out that kind of war. The resources from what I read are stretched , they bungled The war in Gaza and made it a genocidal atrocity when they didn’t have to.
So now Israel and Netanyahu are ready to go to total war. I think it will lead to their total destruction in the long run. Megalomania has just gone beyond the pale. I am assuming that if he goes to total war, then the United States will have no choice but to support it and possibly send our own men and women into harms way. I don’t believe the American public will support such a war.
It will be interesting to see how this will affect the election if Netanyahu ends up invading South Lebanon and taking on Hezbollah which will have the backing of Iran. How will the Biden administration handle this and how will Kamala Harris respond to this?
Spot on. I doubt that Israel will win such a war, but I also doubt that the US, if they get involved, will either. If they couldn't take the heat the Houthis brought, how can they take what Hez and Iran are going to dish out? Their bases in Syria and Iraq will become mini-Dien Bien Phus, completely isolated and indefensible, and their carriers will be sunk by hypersonics. And that's not counting any intervention by Russia, Turkey and China.
What you're saying makes total sense to me. I think I said yesterday that the dynamics of political funding in the US are such that both parties, and especially the GOP, will support a war. The GOP will foolishly think that it's on someone else's watch, anyway, and Trump will repeat his mantra--would never have happened if I were still POTUS. But, as you say, such a war won't go well and the American people are largely fed up with forever war. They will be harsh in evaluating who was behind it all. Again, the big question is how this would look during an election campaign.
Would the U.S.A. be willing to carpet bomb Southern Lebanon if Israel was teetering? Given that there is no proper leadership in Washington, it would be the shadow nutters making such decisions wouldn't it?
And if Trump wins in November, what will his real position be? So far, he seems full-on Zionist.
And any Zionist is a NAZIonist