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ML's avatar

It could be that Ben is angling for a job in the new Hillary administration. Lord preserve us. Rhodes had only to look towards the realist school of foreign policy, such as we evoked recently with commenter Dissonant: Ambassador Freeman talked about an “analytical framework” based on 3 types of competition, the first being healthy rivalry (an oxymoron for the Neocretins), second, a Nancy Kerrigan-like approach (sanctions and other goodies used to cheat and unfairly win; and three, zero-sum, we’re No.1, either you’re w us or against us…Freeman chooses door no. 1, as someone who actually knows Chinese history and culture. But no, at this late hour, we get this very restrained and too-clever-by-half screed that Simplicius beautifully decodes. I doubt Ben ran his draft by the ruling Neos who are still hell bent on choosing door no.3: if we don’t win, nobody does.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

I give Rhodes credit for sticking his neck out like this BUT obviously he doesn’t recognize Putin’s motivation. Nor does he acknowledge this.

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dissonant1's avatar

Does this mean the U.S. can't accuse anyone of violating the "rules based order" anymore? That would be refreshing since it seems they were throwing around that accusation left and right over the last couple years. I guess the construct they constructed isn't constructive anymore. Time for a new paradigm.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Not a chance.

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Laura Noncomplier's avatar

I never understood this “rules based order” nonsense before. Thanks for the explanation

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

It’s like the movie Stripes. Bill Murrays character says WE are THE United States. We’re 10 and 1.

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D F Barr's avatar

Managed Decline. That’s what “The One” was all about. How very nice of Ben to lay it all out for us. We will decline, they will mange the decline, and they will still be handsomely compensated for their “public services.” More of the ten percent for the Big Guy stuff. Ben is calling for the Elite to lower their expectations, but that they will still live comfortably off of the ruins for years to come.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Rules based order

Follow our economic, environmental, energy, political, and social decrees

Or suffer the consequences…

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Social decrees assumes DEI.

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Sarcastic Cynical Texan's avatar

The blowback that is coming our way will be real and spectacular.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Only if we stick our nose where it doesn’t belong.

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Bob C.'s avatar

But that's what the US does.

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SMH's avatar

Yep, the reckoning will be memorable to say the least.

The forces that will be unleashed won’t be anything that these fools expect. The economic, military, political, societal and geopolitical consequences will shake the pillars of the republic to their foundations and I don’t see any politician anywhere who is up to the task of handling a calamity of this magnitude.

Sorta highlights the upcoming debate for what it is, a meaningless bit of political theater meant to appease the masses, but ultimately signifying nothing but empty spectacle.

I’m saddened and infuriated at the same time. Didn’t think that I would live to see this national tragedy.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Nah. We have nukes.

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SMH's avatar

Yeh, AC, there is that and it’s a good thing that nobody else has’em!

Oh, wait.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Or we'll bring you "democracy".

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Bob C.'s avatar

Rules-based democracy?

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Ideology. And economic resources.

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Tamsin's avatar

I saw that too. It put me in mind of this 2022 article at TAC by Dreher (love him or hate him),

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/matt-taibbi-putin-onetime-bastard-russia-ukraine/

which quotes extensively from a paywalled piece by Taibbi, "Putin the Apostate: We thought he would be our bastard. Then, he became his own bastard."

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Our diplomacy with our 5 eyes allies is built on trust yet we spy on them too.

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