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susan mullen's avatar

Thanks for confirmation that MI6 reports to "the Crown." It's especially important to know this because in the US we're constantly told that UK monarchy is merely "ceremonial," has no involvement in government when the exact opposite is true. Charles is well known for his incessant lobbying, but he learned from the Queen. In 1999 the Queen vetoed a bill that would’ve removed her power to order military strikes. And who was going to say no to either of them? No one.

1/13/2013, “Secret papers show extent of senior royals’ veto over bills,“ UK Guardian, Robert Booth

“Court order reveals how approval of Queen and Prince Charles is sought on range of bills:

Contrary to claims that they’re just “ceremonial,” senior UK Royals operate as lawmakers.

“In one instance the Queen completely vetoed the Military Actions Against Iraq Bill in 1999, a private member’s bill that sought to transfer the power to authorise military strikes against Iraq

from the monarch to parliament."...https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/14/secret-papers-royals-veto-bills

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I still feel that Queen Elizabeth and maybe even Prince Philip knew that Diana was going to be taken out. Didn't she slip away to Balmoral or somewhere when it happened? If you read some of the more detailed books, it appears that Diana might have recovered but they kept her away from the hospital for more than an hour or so, even though there were hospitals very close by. I agree with Dodi's father. I wanted to present this as another example of what is really going on with the "Crown." I do not think it is a mere tourist attraction.

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I agree that "the Crown" is much more than we're led to believe. They also have "privy councils" loaded with Deep State monarchists whom I understand are sworn to silence about what's said in meetings. Canada also has a deep Privy Council. The Queen even knighted alleged Covid computer modeler Neil Ferguson in 2001 for his role in calling for immediate slaughter of millions of cattle and sheep across the UK in response to foot and mouth disease. They burned animals alive on sides of road. Later it was said this brutal and inhumane action wasn't necessary. In 2020 the same Neil Ferguson called for lockdown of entire healthy human population "until a vaccine" is created. As someone said, "this time we're the cattle." US followed Ferguson's recommendation for "social distancing," ie lockdowns. On 3/25/2020 Ferguson published on his twitter page that the model he used for Covid was actually one he'd written 13 yrs earlier for influenza. UK and US together are the world's greatest predator of humanity.

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Marie's avatar

Thanks for good info on all this ! It had occurred to me, I wonder if you have a thought on the Prince Harry situation. Although the MSM portrays this as Harry leaving the family because of "attacks" on Meghan, I would think at this point maybe he realizes the "Deep state" killed his mother. He is probably torn between missing his brother and family, but now suspecting that the "Crown" orchestrated her removal.

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susan mullen's avatar

Harry & Meg supposedly hated royal life then tried to make a fortune by selling themselves as royals. Not a problem for US elites who bow and scrape over any royals, past or present. UK monarchy is poison. US & UK monarchy together are poison for Americans and all humanity by keeping endless wars going.

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History Lass's avatar

Thank you.

I have long wondered about this aspect of the Royals.

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Thanks for the link! I'm a fan of both Tom Luongo and Matt Ehret. In recent years I've read several excellent articles by Mr. Ehret about the hideous UK-US partnership in which US seems to enjoy acting like it's still a colony. Which means US taxpayers are still de facto subjects of UK monarchy. The point of the "partnership" is to impose as much misery as possible on ordinary Americans by means such as keeping Mexico a terrorist state and ensuring that US southern border remains wide open. The Queen even knighted 3 recent Mexican presidents: Vicente Fox (2000-2006), Felipe Calderon (2006-2012), and Enrique Nieto (2012-2018). She awarded Vicente Fox in 2002, Felipe Calderon in 2009, and Enrique Nieto in 2015.

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History Lass's avatar

Thank You! I will definitely listen

Luongo made what I thought was a very enigmatic and interesting offhand remark shortly after the Queens passing.

He (and I apologize for not having the direct quote ) remarked about the double coup that took out both Liz's in the same week. Meaning Truss and the Queen.

He didn't elaborate. But it stopped me in my tracks. I also could have totally misunderstood the remark and context too.

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CBus Mike's avatar

I see, said 5he blind man.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Mark - Thanks for clarifying the British Role!

It’s amazing how little new information was in the Durham Report…

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Stephen McIntyre's avatar

you say: "Nellie Ohr was the real author of most of the Steele “Dossier”." Nope. It was Danchenko, for sure. Have you read his pre-Dossier Ukraine reports? Same sort of intel porn as Dossier.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Can you give me some links? I don't mean that she dreamed it all up, but that she gathered and put it together.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

That was sloppy on my part. I'll try to clean it up today.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I think it should be apparent from the above that the Russia Hoax was about a lot more than Hillary's emails. This was a major Deep State op with long range objectives in view.

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perle's avatar

Just what are these objectives? This is what puzzles me. So much of what they have done seems sloppy and ill thought out. These supposedly super-intelligent people could have achieved their objectives without dividing the country and so obviously changing the rules. In my youth Americans like Bernays were masters of market research and swaying public opinion. Was (is) their objective to destroy the USA? If not why wouldn't they want to preserve the strengths of our economy, military and world position to their own advantage. Why Biden instead of some charismatic figure worthy of the role of 'Big Brother'? Why has the media destroyed their credibility with much of America? Surely arrogance has limits in calculating what you can get away with.

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D F Barr's avatar

That is why it continues in its various forms.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Yes.

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NFO's avatar

Poster child for immediate-post-Church Committee hires--feckless, midwit bureaucrats who failed upwards, rather than doing America's business in a rough global neighborhood. Now they're big tough guys...

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Mark Wauck's avatar

https://wwwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN1iI-DaJNw.youtube.com/watch?v=GN1iI-DaJNw

Remember when we used to believe? We didn't know the half of it.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

The power of wishful thinking. It blinds.

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