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AmericanCardigan's avatar

One would think Rachel Maddow would have her head out of her arse by now since Russiagate blew up.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/02/07/people_pushing_peace_talks_in_ukraine_dont_get_it_russia_news_to_lose.html

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Mike Lee

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7h

If true, the executive branch has unilaterally waged war against a near-peer nuclear power.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Sure. You got a problem with that? We didn't keep our republic, and this is what we get.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

I found it an interesting and a matter-of-fact quote from the Senator's twitter feed. He and others should continue to send this message.

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perle's avatar

Thanks for the bleak summary, but look at the bright side. This will not escalate. The West is so stupid, Biden above all others, that we have created a win-win situation and Russia can just continue to wear us down militarily and economically forever. Our media will continue to inform us that Russia is in bad shape and on the verge of losing. A few more tanks, a few more missiles.....

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NFO's avatar

While it's still unclear whether the US, UK, and NATO have definitively committed to these sorts of escalations, it certainly can't help any attempts at back-channel negotiations to have Zelenskyy running around on camera thanking the UK Parliament "in advance for these powerful English planes." If the US State Department were serious about a negotiated peace, one would think they'd clip his wings a bit.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-pledges-fighter-pilot-training-ukraine-zelensky-surprise-visit

Descending from a grandfather who came to the US as a result of, well, releasing himself on his own recognizance from His Majesty's custody in the wake of the Easter Rising of 1916, I'm no fanboy of the British Crown, but, FFS, Z, show some respect!!! We in the West have to abandon our traditions and protocol just so Z-Man can run around playing G.I. Joe. SMH.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Z running around Europe yesterday and today asking for tanks, fighter jets, and British tea.

Feels like "Z" is in charge of all of NATO these days.

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Steghorn21's avatar

He can have all the hardware, but if he touches the teabags, I'm signing up for Wagner tomorrow.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Yep, next he'll be telling us to brush out teeth properly and reading our kids bed time stories. What a circus.

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Steghorn21's avatar

The Brits were the top dog in town back then. We treated the Irish appallingly. As for Z, after tanks come the jets, then the long-range missiles, then nukes. Escalatory madness.

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NFO's avatar

All good--as my grandparents (all four of them Irish immigrants) taught us, it was the Crown (and the oligarchy who carried out their mission), never the people. Good thing, too, or otherwise I'd have to ditch well over half of my record collection, all the way from the Beatles through the "Manchester sound." 😉

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Steghorn21's avatar

The problem with the US's proxy wars is not just that they don't know their enemy, but that they don't know their supposed friends either. In every war they've fought in the last 70 years, proxy or not, they continually underestimated their enemy and overestimated their friends. They thought Diem and the South Vietnamese generals were a genuine alternative to communism that the people there would support; they thought that their guys in Iraq and Afghanistan were budding democratic stalwarts just waiting to install free and fair elections and open local McDonalds. Now they are doing it with Z, thinking he is some kind of little "Mr Smith goes to Washington" guy trying to save "democracy" against the Russian steamroller. They get it wrong time after time because they refuse to do put their blinkers aside and do the real research.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Why has Boris Johnson been going this extreme?

Perhaps he needs to fund a top 1% lifestyle?

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Steghorn21's avatar

He's an extreme narcissist. It must be hard to step out of the limelight.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Russia has announced plans to spend $500M to repair the pipes. Why would they do that if the blew it up? sic.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Pyrrhic Victory stealing the Russian currency reserves, and the confiscations of private property of oligarchs.

So incredibly short sighted.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Short sighted? Neocons?

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Steghorn21's avatar

They were expecting to bully other nations into submission and compliance. Then someone punched the bully in the face.

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Steghorn21's avatar

There absolutely is a spiritual element here. The level of pure satanic evil at present is staggering. I re-watched the documentary about Bret Weinstein's experiences at Evergreen College. It was almost demonic. That has now spilt over into all sections of society.

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chuck99z28's avatar

It also goes with that "dark brandon" speech last year.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Without a belief in a higher being there is no basis for morality. Ergo they are immoral at their core. That performance was just the latest manifestation. Zhou, as Mark like to call him, is clearly another as demonstrated by all of his in our face appointments.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Yep. As Larry Johnson over at Sonar21 said, this is because we have forsaken God and turned to sexual perversion. It's touted as new, daring, liberating and courageous. In fact, for any student of history (and there might be a few here!), it's the same old evil that pops up everytime a civilization is circling the drain.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Indeed.

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