If political opinion polling demonstrates anything, it’s that the majority of people have muddled opinions based on partial information and prejudices. It takes time and the impact of information that can’t be ignored to bring about shifts. The latest polling on foreign policy appears to show such a shift. This is why I said yesterday that two weeks can be forever, when events press—such as widespread dissemination of video and images. Here are the first few paragraphs of a longer post:
Seems the internal CDC Investigative Body that seems to be doing more of a cover up on that Reedely CA Lab. Oh, my mistake, current law does not cover this type of investigation and testing of a black Foreign Bio Lab found in the US. Outside their purview.
Anyway Rod Rosenstein's sister was a member, Small world, as well as lots of apparent Chinese Influence.
I am a bit suspicious of the opinion poll, polls are so easy to fudge by picking the right audience so you get the answer they want.
The main focus of people is the economy, and Ukraine and Israel are just distractions. It's a case of crying wolf too many times.
I am surprised that the Israel and Ukraine Supporters in Congress have not managed to get some type of funding through.
The cage match between DEI Supporters and Jewish Lobby, two groups you are not allowed to criticize and are pretty much politically untouchable, is interesting. Accusations of Racism vs Anti Antisemitism, which is stronger? The ADL is trying to blame White Supremacists, a politically acceptable enemy, while ignoring Islamic, Black, and Leftist anti Antisemitism actions.
There is a HUGE amount of loss of trust in institutions, including the media. This is building a lot of cynicism. When you have been lied to enough, you get a bit cynical. I am in the very cynical stage.
CNN is going hard on the terrible amount of damage done in Gaza, per the super duper trustworthy Gaza Ministry of Health.
And this shows the state of our newspaper pundits on the Gaza Ministry of Health:
I am not sure how the Israel Efforts on high lighting the atrocities Hamas committed is going on influencing public opinion / narrative / Overton Window.
The coverage of the Jewish Guy that was killed by a college professor in So. Cal is a sight to behold.
And of course, Trump is being compared to Hitler again. HOW DARE he use the word Vermin. The hypocrisy is amazing, but Trump is a somebody Leftists can use the Nazi Rhetoric Weapon on safely.
And my Mother a baby boomer, commented Trump was a wannabe Dictator yesterday. This opinion is pushed by her local Paper the LA Times, and all the other so called Print News stuff she reads including the economist. I did get them a subscription to the Epoch Times for a bit of a different opinion.
And looks like Joe Biden is not going to be charged for having classified info. Nice double standard.
And it's obvious how Biden has dementia. That big meany Trump mocked of Good Ol Joe:
And you have the people the voted for Trump, and they are angry and becoming very cynical. They feel victimized they can see the double standards, and see how useless the GOP is. They don't feel anyone has their back, except Trump.
The point here is not so much about the accuracy of any given poll (internals re Reuters/Ipsos https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/reuters-ipsos-israel-hamas-war-2024-election). What all polling appears to track--and this goes back some way--is that growing numbers of Americans are war weary in general. Multiple polls also measure a decline in reflexive support for Israel within the Dem base (Dems generally still buy into the war on Russia). That last doesn't surprise me at all.
BTW, I haven't followed the incident where the Jewish guy died, but I did read what you linked. Piecing things together it appears that he didn't die from being struck by the megaphone but by hitting his head on the pavement. In the videos I heard someone saying that he "slipped" and the deputy was asking the Palestinian guy, 'So you tried to hit his phone with the megaphone?' That goes with the woman witness saying that she saw the megaphone "come up" but not that she saw the megaphone striking the man. Unclear what that means. Could it have been that the guy with the phone was trying to record and the guy with the megaphone tried to strike the phone away, that there wasn't an intentional attack? Yes. But I draw no conclusion as to fact from any of this. I think saying "the Jewish Guy that was killed by a college professor" goes too far based on any evidence. Crazy stuff happens. Dueling demonstrations are ripe for trouble.
All “interesting” points (the Google prompt thought “interstellar” more suitable!) Ray. Wanted your opinion on a recent piece by Bari Weiss at The Free Press (link follows) who calls very persuasively for the abolition of DEI in the universities. She is Jewish but doesn’t seem to see that decades of check-writing by her peers have guaranteed the reign of DEI in these very institutions! Maybe a chat w Steve Sailer whom Mark posted recently would add to her knowledge? Just mentioning this in the context of your point about “the cage match between the Jewish lobby and DEI supporters.” Might these two groups overlap?
It’s progress Dei is being questioned a bit beyond Unz without the career and social blowback that would would have happened not too long ago, so the Overton Window is shifting a bit.
I agree. I noticed UC now has an “opt out” option for students re vaccination policy - apparently now personal choice and discretion is back! Talk about cya.
Well, of course they'll try to hurt Musk. This game is for all the marbles. Its about truth? No 'you're antisemitic' trump card? Or should I say Joker? Game over!
Two big corps (IBM is one I forget other) have announced they are pulling ads and suggesting Musk is enabling antisemitism. I think this is seals clapping and ass covering to avoid threats from the street, Wall Street that is.
It's just virtue signaling showing they are not anti Semitic. I wonder who applied the pressure, or was it internal? I'm surprised with IBM's international contracts, they would touch the antisemitism issue in any way.
And it came out Dylan Mulvaney was paid $186K by Budweiser as part of the endorsement deal.
There is so much propaganda being pushed by both sides, it doesn’t surprise me that some Americans are starting to question the whole enchilada in Gaza/Israel.
Off topic, but Techno Fog may be on to how the democrats plan to swap out Biden,
I am so of two minds on all of this. I completely agree that Israel has the right to exist and can not see how there can be peace so long as Hamas denies this. Israel on the other hand has not been a “good neighbor” so I understand the Palestinian anger.
The British/French/Rothschilds, etc. created this shit sandwich in the region that you can’t just turn the page on, so how do you move forward when no one is willing to compromise, lobbyists are bribing politicians to support forever wars.
I met a former Israeli politician some time ago, who said, we can survive without American aid, so long as America stops giving money to our enemies. Maybe the solution is that simple turn of the money faucet?
You should've asked him if Israel can survive without stealing from America--like, nukes. They did. Without those nukes--and/or the threat of our own nukes--Israel would have ceased to exist. That politician sounds delusional. Nixon saved Israel in 1973:
Good point, Mark. Many people do not understand that Israel was not our friend before 1973 (they were more closely aligned with France and Russia) and they remain our friend only just as long as we keep sending money and that our politicians look the other way when Mossad steals classified information. We also provided plenty of funding for the security technology we outsourced to Israel and we have subsidized the rise of their booming tech sector.
We were having a conversation about Americans illegally giving technology to them out of what I said was misplaced loyalty. He responded with something about “a higher calling”. I think my final response was, at least try to keep our now shared technology safe from all the Soviet spies you have in your government, from your rush to rescue all the Soviet Jews.
Ps. Really interesting article, I knew we helped but not to that extent (I was in 10th grade). My conversation was in the 90’s so he should have know that history (he was about 20 years my senior) or just comfortable enough in his feeling of superiority. Question: was it really us or S. Africa who helped with the nukes?
I'd say look him up, but here's what I would call a MIH review of who he was/is and his typical secular left wing radical view of history of the United States.
That this book was unleashed on our children to paint this country in such a demeaning manner is so typical of his kind. As for the Hoffy version, I think you need to do more research, Doug.
You seem to be recalling history of your own invention. We developed nukes on our own. We did not steal it from the Germans. We persuaded German scientists to work on our weapons programs after the war. Those scientists who were captured before the end of the war were interned by the Brits. Even if we had stolen from the Germans, there's a difference between stealing from an enemy in time of war and stealing from a friendly power (yes, the US has always been friendly to Israel). And in some instances sharing what was stolen with your friend's enemies. Israel is free to do that kind of thing, but the appropriate US response would be to cut them off. But then, nobody ever mistook them for nice guys. Whether we are chumps is another question.
Present Geo-Political mess breeds a lot of, ummm, necessary removal these days. Thanks for being engaged Mark. Best Regards sir. (WrH) [Edit: I meant to add 'and corrections' -W-]
Mind Blowing.
No matter sometimes I think I am too cynical, I keep on learning stuff that shows I am not cynical enough. And this is shifting my politics.
From a blog I would label as more establishment GOP.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/11/cdc-ccp.php
Seems the internal CDC Investigative Body that seems to be doing more of a cover up on that Reedely CA Lab. Oh, my mistake, current law does not cover this type of investigation and testing of a black Foreign Bio Lab found in the US. Outside their purview.
Anyway Rod Rosenstein's sister was a member, Small world, as well as lots of apparent Chinese Influence.
And the lab owner has PRC Military Connections.
More details:
https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/report-on-the-clandestine-californian
Voice of A Child https://x.com/ericclapton/status/1725545656025071787?s=61&t=AumTqBeN781cbpsp8XWOrA
I am a bit suspicious of the opinion poll, polls are so easy to fudge by picking the right audience so you get the answer they want.
The main focus of people is the economy, and Ukraine and Israel are just distractions. It's a case of crying wolf too many times.
I am surprised that the Israel and Ukraine Supporters in Congress have not managed to get some type of funding through.
The cage match between DEI Supporters and Jewish Lobby, two groups you are not allowed to criticize and are pretty much politically untouchable, is interesting. Accusations of Racism vs Anti Antisemitism, which is stronger? The ADL is trying to blame White Supremacists, a politically acceptable enemy, while ignoring Islamic, Black, and Leftist anti Antisemitism actions.
There is a HUGE amount of loss of trust in institutions, including the media. This is building a lot of cynicism. When you have been lied to enough, you get a bit cynical. I am in the very cynical stage.
CNN is going hard on the terrible amount of damage done in Gaza, per the super duper trustworthy Gaza Ministry of Health.
And this shows the state of our newspaper pundits on the Gaza Ministry of Health:
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/11/16/new-york-times-opinion-columnist-doesnt-know-hamas-runs-gaza-n592885
I am not sure how the Israel Efforts on high lighting the atrocities Hamas committed is going on influencing public opinion / narrative / Overton Window.
The coverage of the Jewish Guy that was killed by a college professor in So. Cal is a sight to behold.
https://instapundit.com/617410/
And of course, Trump is being compared to Hitler again. HOW DARE he use the word Vermin. The hypocrisy is amazing, but Trump is a somebody Leftists can use the Nazi Rhetoric Weapon on safely.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/14/politics/biden-trump-nazi-rhetoric/index.html
And my Mother a baby boomer, commented Trump was a wannabe Dictator yesterday. This opinion is pushed by her local Paper the LA Times, and all the other so called Print News stuff she reads including the economist. I did get them a subscription to the Epoch Times for a bit of a different opinion.
And looks like Joe Biden is not going to be charged for having classified info. Nice double standard.
And it's obvious how Biden has dementia. That big meany Trump mocked of Good Ol Joe:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12685587/Donald-Trump-mock-Joe-Biden-drugs-Vegas-speech.html
And you have the people the voted for Trump, and they are angry and becoming very cynical. They feel victimized they can see the double standards, and see how useless the GOP is. They don't feel anyone has their back, except Trump.
https://substack.com/inbox/post/138796015
Another society indicator is the shortfall in military recruiting. The Jab Mandate, and how it was handled, destroyed Trust.
Covid destroyed Trust in the U.S. Medical Establishment, as can be seen by how many people have taken the latest booster, 2.5%
The point here is not so much about the accuracy of any given poll (internals re Reuters/Ipsos https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/reuters-ipsos-israel-hamas-war-2024-election). What all polling appears to track--and this goes back some way--is that growing numbers of Americans are war weary in general. Multiple polls also measure a decline in reflexive support for Israel within the Dem base (Dems generally still buy into the war on Russia). That last doesn't surprise me at all.
BTW, I haven't followed the incident where the Jewish guy died, but I did read what you linked. Piecing things together it appears that he didn't die from being struck by the megaphone but by hitting his head on the pavement. In the videos I heard someone saying that he "slipped" and the deputy was asking the Palestinian guy, 'So you tried to hit his phone with the megaphone?' That goes with the woman witness saying that she saw the megaphone "come up" but not that she saw the megaphone striking the man. Unclear what that means. Could it have been that the guy with the phone was trying to record and the guy with the megaphone tried to strike the phone away, that there wasn't an intentional attack? Yes. But I draw no conclusion as to fact from any of this. I think saying "the Jewish Guy that was killed by a college professor" goes too far based on any evidence. Crazy stuff happens. Dueling demonstrations are ripe for trouble.
All “interesting” points (the Google prompt thought “interstellar” more suitable!) Ray. Wanted your opinion on a recent piece by Bari Weiss at The Free Press (link follows) who calls very persuasively for the abolition of DEI in the universities. She is Jewish but doesn’t seem to see that decades of check-writing by her peers have guaranteed the reign of DEI in these very institutions! Maybe a chat w Steve Sailer whom Mark posted recently would add to her knowledge? Just mentioning this in the context of your point about “the cage match between the Jewish lobby and DEI supporters.” Might these two groups overlap?
https://www.thefp.com/p/end-dei-woke-capture
Bari is shocked, shocked to find out there is gambling going on.
It’s progress Dei is being questioned a bit beyond Unz without the career and social blowback that would would have happened not too long ago, so the Overton Window is shifting a bit.
Yes and these might be alumni and some parents ready to stop paying…”shifting” a bit as Mark says! It would definitely be time!
I’m very unhappy as an alumni with the Vax mandates they did. I feel sorry for the students.
Now I refuse to even pick up the phone during their alumni drive.
I agree. I noticed UC now has an “opt out” option for students re vaccination policy - apparently now personal choice and discretion is back! Talk about cya.
I just checked my alma mater, opt out form requires either medical proof, or have to site religious belief. Faculty are exempt.
Article has link to schools still requiring Covid jab. Amazing.
https://reason.com/2023/08/22/dozens-of-colleges-still-require-covid-vaccines-for-students/
An example from fed-up alumni/check writers!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/11/17/let_the_donor_revolution_begin_150070.html
The Zerohedge about Elon Musk's "That is the actual truth" makes the same point that Sailer (and others) have made for years.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-11-15/elon-musk-shifts-discussion-antisemitism
Well, of course they'll try to hurt Musk. This game is for all the marbles. Its about truth? No 'you're antisemitic' trump card? Or should I say Joker? Game over!
Two big corps (IBM is one I forget other) have announced they are pulling ads and suggesting Musk is enabling antisemitism. I think this is seals clapping and ass covering to avoid threats from the street, Wall Street that is.
It's just virtue signaling showing they are not anti Semitic. I wonder who applied the pressure, or was it internal? I'm surprised with IBM's international contracts, they would touch the antisemitism issue in any way.
And it came out Dylan Mulvaney was paid $186K by Budweiser as part of the endorsement deal.
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/bud-light-crowder
VS to be sure which seems to be a corporate method for covering their arses.
Hmm…
Media Matters is involved;
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/musk-threatens-thermonuclear-lawsuit-media-matters
All excellent points, Ray. Very very hard to sort all this out.
And more data - and from personal experience I’m not surprised.
UnitedHealth uses AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, lawsuit alleges
For the largest health insurer in the US, AI's error rate is like a feature, not a bug.
https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/11/ai-with-90-error-rate-forces-elderly-out-of-rehab-nursing-homes-suit-claims/
There is so much propaganda being pushed by both sides, it doesn’t surprise me that some Americans are starting to question the whole enchilada in Gaza/Israel.
Off topic, but Techno Fog may be on to how the democrats plan to swap out Biden,
https://x.com/techno_fog/status/1725204153742323762?s=46&t=H3DxnE8adCllbYQjS5GABA
Yes, this whole CA trip looked to me like an account executive handing off their client to the successor.
I am so of two minds on all of this. I completely agree that Israel has the right to exist and can not see how there can be peace so long as Hamas denies this. Israel on the other hand has not been a “good neighbor” so I understand the Palestinian anger.
The British/French/Rothschilds, etc. created this shit sandwich in the region that you can’t just turn the page on, so how do you move forward when no one is willing to compromise, lobbyists are bribing politicians to support forever wars.
I met a former Israeli politician some time ago, who said, we can survive without American aid, so long as America stops giving money to our enemies. Maybe the solution is that simple turn of the money faucet?
You should've asked him if Israel can survive without stealing from America--like, nukes. They did. Without those nukes--and/or the threat of our own nukes--Israel would have ceased to exist. That politician sounds delusional. Nixon saved Israel in 1973:
https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch?query=nixon+saved+israel
Good point, Mark. Many people do not understand that Israel was not our friend before 1973 (they were more closely aligned with France and Russia) and they remain our friend only just as long as we keep sending money and that our politicians look the other way when Mossad steals classified information. We also provided plenty of funding for the security technology we outsourced to Israel and we have subsidized the rise of their booming tech sector.
We were having a conversation about Americans illegally giving technology to them out of what I said was misplaced loyalty. He responded with something about “a higher calling”. I think my final response was, at least try to keep our now shared technology safe from all the Soviet spies you have in your government, from your rush to rescue all the Soviet Jews.
Ps. Really interesting article, I knew we helped but not to that extent (I was in 10th grade). My conversation was in the 90’s so he should have know that history (he was about 20 years my senior) or just comfortable enough in his feeling of superiority. Question: was it really us or S. Africa who helped with the nukes?
Israel shared some of thei take from Jonathan Pollard with the USSR. This has always been an extreme sore point with the FBI.
My understanding is that RSA helped Israel testing nukes. If the US had helped, I don't think Israel would have turned to RSA.
Is this the Howard Zinn version?
I'd say look him up, but here's what I would call a MIH review of who he was/is and his typical secular left wing radical view of history of the United States.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/an-fbi-history-of-howard-zinn
That this book was unleashed on our children to paint this country in such a demeaning manner is so typical of his kind. As for the Hoffy version, I think you need to do more research, Doug.
You seem to be recalling history of your own invention. We developed nukes on our own. We did not steal it from the Germans. We persuaded German scientists to work on our weapons programs after the war. Those scientists who were captured before the end of the war were interned by the Brits. Even if we had stolen from the Germans, there's a difference between stealing from an enemy in time of war and stealing from a friendly power (yes, the US has always been friendly to Israel). And in some instances sharing what was stolen with your friend's enemies. Israel is free to do that kind of thing, but the appropriate US response would be to cut them off. But then, nobody ever mistook them for nice guys. Whether we are chumps is another question.
The Manhattan Project succeeded where the Germans failed--succeeded without German help.
No redline was crossed with the Nakba?
Redlines for thee by not for me?
Thanks for providing the response I expected: We stole it fair and square and once we stole it it has to stay stolen by whatever means necessary.
Present Geo-Political mess breeds a lot of, ummm, necessary removal these days. Thanks for being engaged Mark. Best Regards sir. (WrH) [Edit: I meant to add 'and corrections' -W-]