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N.S. Palmer's avatar

Your discussion of gnostic utopianism reminded me of a passage from *Why Sane People Believe Crazy Things*:

"A perfect society is impossible for three reasons.

First, human beings are imperfect. We are capable of intelligent thought and moral nobility, but not always or even most of the time. Too often, we are selfish, narrow-minded, impatient, cruel, and thoughtless. We want what we want, and we don’t care about others or the common good. We easily rationalize whatever sins we can’t deny. Alexander Pope (1688-1744) described it in his Essay on Man:

'Virtuous and vicious every man must be,

Few in the extreme, but all in the degree;

The rogue and fool by fits is fair and wise;

And even the best by fits what they despise.'

Second, social perfection is subjective. What we consider a 'perfect society' depends on our life experience, emotional makeup, moral values, and settled beliefs. Even people who have a lot in common often disagree about the details of a good society ... There’s no provable definition of a perfect society because it’s only partly dependent on facts. The rest depends on the people defining it.

Third, no matter how fortunate people are, they are never satisfied with what they have. Smart people want to be popular. Popular people want to be smart. Poor people wish they had money. Rich people fondly recall the simplicity of their lives when they were broke ...

Perfection is impossible in human society because it is *imperfection* that motivates us and helps give meaning to our lives. Like the utopian community William James described, a perfect society would be too tame, too second-rate, and too uninspiring. We are not merely thinking machines. We are full-blooded human beings, with energy, drives, and passions that we need to exercise on meeting challenges and solving problems. Without them, we stagnate in mediocrity."

https://www.consilience-publishing.com/whysanepeople/

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Shy Boy's avatar

Thanks for taking the time to explain your perspective and intellectual influences. These are interesting ideas.

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