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Geowhizz's avatar

Samson Option?

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johnycomelately's avatar

After the epoch of false messiahs the Jews took it upon themselves to immanentize the eschaton. It’s an obvious slippery slope of inevitability.

From finance to revolution, to Zionism to universalism and to finally creating their own messiah according to their hearts.

It’s just a shame millions of gentiles have to die in the process.

Zionism is dead, it’s going to take a conflagration to end it and usher in universalism.

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Moe's avatar

Mark, please stop using the term 'eschatological', it's past its stale date. Recall the use of 'segue', similarly overused and finally discarded as outdated.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I like it. I'll keep using it.

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Kieran Telo's avatar

It's the perfect word to capture that sense of manifest destiny (to steal a very stale phrase) that prominent Israelis believe is theirs.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Yuliana Dlugaj  @DlugajJuly

Israeli right-wing radical Ben Gevir, who is also head of internal security in Israel, just introduced legislation in the Knesset.

If passed, it would allow Israeli police to shoot and kill Palestinians on the streets without any civil or criminal liability.

Let that sink in.

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Bob C.'s avatar

Just insane! They are the new Nazis

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

A the opinion polls show Israel support in the U.S. declining the Republican party remains steadfast in their support for genocide. One could say the Evangelicals are joined at the hip with Israel's genocidal zealots for different reasons, but both eschatological. Democrats, as always, are quick to pretend to seize the moral high ground by protesting Israeli ethnic cleansing. The difference? Republicans chasing the money, as always, and Democrats chasing power since they already have the money.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Unfortunately the only breakdown I noticed was party affiliation--not race or religion. I have no real handle on "evangelicals". My suspicion is that age is perhaps the most relevant factor. People who identify as GOPer are probably a more elderly demographic than most, and grew up in the more immediate aftermath of WW2. Trump, for one, recognizes that that demographic will not win him the election.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

I agree age is a factor, those who came just before or just after WWII, the boomers, are staunch supporters of Israel as they have been thoroughly socially engineered to accept what they have read in the media and from Hollywood. The Evangelicals, primarily protestant in affiliation, who have been involved emotionally, and religiously with Israel (Palestine before 1948) since the mid-19th century. They believe strongly in the Book of Revelation. Trump is astute enough to know he cannot rely on their support to carry him into the white house. In fact, I suspect his embrace of the religious right is one of the many things that drive the secular Democrat hatred of Trump.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I understand, but I'm not clear what percent of self identified "evangelicals" fall into that group.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

I found this research at Pew:

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/religious-tradition/evangelical-protestant/

It's overwhelmingly white and tend to be third generation Americans. and 56% identify as Republican.

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ML's avatar

“They no longer care about consequences because it's either the Messiah or their total sacrifice as a country.” Another odd way the mad-hatters in Ukraine oddly mirror those in Israel. Two countries bent on destroying themselves rather than pulling back from the unthinkable: obliterating the world. Yes, a death cult.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Sorry, christine, I don't tolerate people calling me a cultist.

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