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Sarcastic Cynical Texan's avatar

There are none so blind as those who will not see, there are none so deaf as those who will not hear, also known as the *ELITES* .

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

"Two obvious questions arise. How could the polls have been so far off—almost the reverse of the actual lopsided results? What did the Irish think they were voting for in the earlier referenda? Did they really think they could go only so far down the slippery slide without efforts and the Woke class wouldn’t try to grease the slide further? The answers to those questions gets us to the heart of democratic rule and its problems—the imponderable, seemingly irrational, nature of the decisions people make. As in other European countries, we are also left to ask just how real an awakening this may be—how far will it extend?"

Actually 4; my response is; Yes they thought they had public interests in mind based on their decades old power; Hegemony; How real an awakening will be evident when a new gov't and Prime Minister is chosen. Time will tell.

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Jeff Martineau's avatar

See Katie Hopkins on what is really happening…where this all leads is what everyone will be asking in the next 10-20 years as DIGITAL destroys everything we have thought and bought into in the US/West.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8nztE4PR38

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I like her argument that people are reacting against the lies they've been told, and ties that into the Covid Regime.

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Kieran Telo's avatar

Known by the wokerati of Britain as Hatie Katie. She has autistic bluntness as her superpower. As for polls, accuracy thereof: they are meant to shape opinion, not reflect it. A friend of mine who worked most of his life in the US Embassy in the Hague retired to Ireland about two years ago. He found the referendum results mystifying lol.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I get her argument that democracy is "at best an illusion," an "instrument of control" because you "think you have a vote" when you really don't. And yet, sometimes ... I don't have an answer.

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Jeff Martineau's avatar

Mark, perhaps that is the point: in Globalism (which never encompassed the East), we were all taught that we had to participate and that this meant something: TELEVISION - you have a choice! But now that we are no longer in that paradigm, we have gone DIGITAL, which destroys rather than unites, we start to see the past as it actually was, and less of the fantasy. Its Memory. We tend to “short” memory, so Covid is a benchmark, or the obvious attempt to do something that we could see was utterly out of place.

But her hinting at concerns over the humans, is what is important here. We now live in a world of robots, artificial souls and decisions. This will force every single person in the West to do what they have not done in their lifetimes: what about the humans. She is talking about a place with a Catholic culture background, so that discussion is more obvious.

As for democracy: who wins makes absolutely no difference (there is no one thinking/talking about robots and globalism being dead and decline and what to do to rebuild a moral superstructure from the ground up). But the process does matter, which is what she is talking about.

What is missing: recognizing that there are no powers that be in control of anything. There are no plans in the West. No elites. Zip. Nada. Aimless for now. Contra the East (China has what we term the - Chinese Operating System - and places like India and Russia are fully embracing their spiritual backgrounds). Until the West recognizes that Robots (and those promoting them) are the fundamental change…we will continue to get these referendums, and talk around things…

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