Before I get to the important topic in the title, let’s start with some more general updates. Here’s the president of Poland: What the media hides. @narrative_hole “We know that when Russians come they, they rapе women, they kill people, they deport people to the East (…) Russians must be stopped”
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You’re right, our ruling class’ moral degeneracy is on full display in this spiraling conflict. I always thought, and as Mark -and Crooke have shown, the battle has been lost on land (long known but brushed aside, looking for more “gains”) and so has now moved to the sea. “What need we fear who knows it when none can call our power to account?” Truly frightening.
Anyone with experience with both Poles and Ukrainians could see this coming. It's why I've never bought the idea of Poland trying to carve off part of Ukraine.
Maybe the Poles are finally seeing sense. Putin and Lukashenko have been very canny by building up their forces in Belarus. It has pulled a lot of Polish troops to the Belarus border and away from the Ukrainian one.
Exactly what I was thinking of writing. As you know, I've never bought into the idea that Poland was going to invade West Ukraine, but drawing them off toward Belarus may have additional benefits, perhaps for the future.
The neocons only learn the hard way. Putin's going to have to up the ante against them. As for that poor Ukr kid who got killed, his picture sums up the pure evil of the neocons more than thousands of words ever could.
Can’t say I’m surprised, terrified yes, but not surprised. I’ve given up on the idea that any of these clowns are rational, they are totally frickin nuts! They believe that they can continue to ratchet up the provocation of Russia with impunity and ignore the rapidly approaching freight train labeled “Reality Express”. I am convinced that they are hell bent on pushing and pushing and pushing and damn the consequences. So what if 20-30 million people die, cost of doing business. No Republicans to stop them. Legacy media is so completely oblivious to the truth, or reporting on it that it’s laughable. An imbecile is sitting in the Oval Office while the world races toward an historic calamity that will make WW 1 and 2
The media. Our legacy media to use your phrase, are are 20 and 30 year olds who have zero historical sense. As well as being frickin nuts. And hyped up on pot and worse.
100% agree Joe, except for one little thing: Chuck Todd, Britt Hume and a host of other “journalists” haven’t seen 30 in a loong time and they damn well outta have more than just a bit of historical sense, but if they do I haven’t seen it. When veteran journalists set such a lousy example for the “youngsters” guess we shouldn’t be surprised at how fatuous the reporting has become. Maybe if they actually familiarized themselves with what their responsibilities are in this republic, things would be different. But we all know that ain’t happening.
Gott in Himmel - are so many of our elites up to their eyeballs in corruption in Ukraine that we have come to this? Not a peep from DC as to the issues and risks being involved in a European land war with a nuclear advisary? May the Lord be with us and guide us - our leaders are not, and they are mad
My guess there is a mothership involved. Be a shame if the Russians boarded it.
I wonder how the Russia will retaliate.
Interesting the US is still focused on Syria. Interesting no mention of Niger.
Was the Waco-ing of the 300 lb, blind son caretaker, needed a cane, but posted threats about Biden to change the subject from Ukraine? Or from domestic concerns. Or just to show how awesome the fbi is?
The more I learn about the Utah Debacle, the more disgusted I am.
They also took out a brigade hq for a brigade that was NATO trained, presumably with lots of NATO officers at the hq. Also three Kinzhals hit the airfield where f-16 training was supposed to be going on.
My expectations is lots of locations with Nato Officers in Ukraine will be targeted soon. I have been surprised Russia has not done this yet. I don't think there are F-16's in Ukraine yet. Training is taking place outside of Ukraine as far as I know. There is shortage of English speaking pilots, so many have to take English classes first. And when the F-16's get to Ukraine, their range makes them useless, without air to air refueling for the version they are getting. Plus the issue they need a cleared airfield, with no small debris on it since the air intake is on the bottom. Soviet have the ability to get air from above the wing.
It appears the Russians are heavily targeting any airfields used for the storm shadows.
I wonder how many storm shadow's are left? UK only had around 700-1,000 to begin with. And Russia is targeting them both on the ground and shooting them down. And now the UK is in talks to purchase an Israeli Missile because of it's low storm shadow stocks.
Yes, they really are playing for all the marbles. Trump is going to prison and the 2024 elections will be stolen. However, I believe that their other initiatives will fail. Scaring people into taking a deadly vaccine because of a glorified flu virus is one thing, but using "climate change" to scare them into exchanging their comfy, materialistic lives for the drab existence of a medieval peasant is another thing entirely.
They've been playing for all the marbles for quite some time... you might say since the absurd Trump impeachments...or the absurd Steele Dossier...or the absurd Comey exoneration of Mrs Clinton.
Or before those absurdities, the absurd firing of Prosecutor Shokin...or Ms Nuland's Maidan revolution...or Romney's incomprehensible loss. Except before that there was the absurd invasion of Iraq...and before that the attempted theft of all of Russia's wealth and resources...and a while before that the Gulf of Tonkin and before that the assassinations of RFK, MLK and JFK. Eisenhower warned us.
The handwriting has been on the wall for quite some time.
The other day I found myself wondering if the Michael Flynn fiasco was a fake to take Trump down from the inside. Trump's national security advisor was surveilled and accused of lying to Mike Pence about a conversation with Kislyak and fired. Really? The NSA can't talk to a Russian official about US/Russia relations?
The whole story was so utterly preposterous. I wonder too.
But then how do you explain how the Republican establishment circled the wagons, marshalled all their resources, came to the aid of Trump and Flynn? :-)
All this is why I get so frustrated by the typical American attitude that 'philosophy' is a waste of time or is just words that make no difference. It makes all the difference in the world. We got here through the breakdown of Christian thought, that included philosophy. 25 words or less, we've reverted to forms of Platonism, riffs off a Platonic theme. The great sin of the Church was allowing Neo-platonic thought to gain entry (in the West esp. through Augustine) as if it were compatible with Christian faith and philosophy that lies behind that faith. It is not, and a return to Plato a la so many Straussians is not the way forward. The return to Christian faith and what Gilson calls the metaphysics of being or of Exodus. God as creative Act.
While we wait for that to happen :-( we would do well to how we got to this point, which is a start toward the right way forward. We are in the hands of madmen who have perverted philosophy into ideology and are now seeking to replace God as new creators. Understanding how we got here also tells us how to find our way out.
Re Putin as appeaser, I don't believe that's a fair assessment. Not to Putin, not to Chamberlain.
Re Chamberlain, consider that he may not have so much been an appeaser as a would be manipulator who, with the rest of the Anglo-American establishment, was attempting to direct Germany into a war with Russia, and that that grand scheme backfired.
Re Putin, he had several huge tasks to take in hand before he could say 'No more.' He had to get Russian back on its feet economically and socially. He had to get control of the government away from oligarchs in league with the West. He had to get control of the financial system and harden it against sanctions. He had to develop a network of international relationships that could also help Russia whether the coming assault--sanctions, trade disruption, etc. And he was waiting for the game changing hypersonic missiles to become operational (2018). He waited for a few more years because he didn't want to slaughter Ukrainians wholesale, as the West has forced him to do as proxies of the West.
"Re Chamberlain, consider that he may not have so much been an appeaser as a would be manipulator who, with the rest of the Anglo-American establishment, was attempting to direct Germany into a war with Russia, and that that grand scheme backfired."
great popint. The overarching fear of the Brits was Germany (and Russia) compromising their hold on mid-eastern oil fields and India, the "Jewel of the Crown."
Mark, I admit there are flaws which you point out in my analogy. But the fact remains that it has been the US and its dwarfs which has been the aggressor. Not Putin. I suspect we agree that Putin is doing the right thing now.
I believe you are correct here, but the big problem is most people either know little of history or are still seeing Russia as the USSR. How often did you hear the lie at the beginning of this conflictthat Russia was intent on resurrecting the old Soviet empire. I believe Russia has moved on from the horror of communism. Instead of raping and plundering Russia in the 90's we should have been building a bridge to cooperation. Instead of building up China we could have helped rebuild Russia and the world might have been better off. Instead we let the neocons plot their revenge for issues of the past.
I've heard about Satanism among the elite. I have no argument for our against the claim. But I don't think the Bible's eschatology depends on it. And while I do believe scripture teaches that there will be a significant harvest among the Jewish people as the end approaches, it's not clear to me that secular Israel plays a major role. I'm neither confirming nor denying, just saying I don't know.
I've written a series of articles on the Revelation which I plan to publish on substack sooner or later...
I agree that given the insanity/absurdity of the past and present, you certainly can't rule out the logical progression of more insanity/absurdity in the future. I also don't think anyone can safely predict what form the insanity/absurdity will take. That's in the nature of insanity/absurdity. Full on '1984'? Why not?
I actually believe Putin is to be credited for drawing his redline with US provocation in Ukraine and then (finally) backing it up with troops and missiles. While its painful (many casualties) how else do you stop a bully? I have written here in the past that I think you can say Putin -- far from being 'Hitler' in this tragi-comedy -- actually played the role of 'Chamberlain', the appeaser, for far too long. We are a very powerful bully and now he has his hands full stopping us...both in Ukraine and across the globe.
So I think we can, in fact, safely predict more insanity/absurdity until the bully is stopped.
And Biden and the Neocons have no incentive to stop...The war probably helps Biden net/net try to get re-selected. It definitely helps the defense industry and is probably 'good' for what is left of our 'economy'. Why is the stock market up and unemployment down? As long as American boys aren't splattering their blood across Ukrainian villages and grain fields and coming home in body bags broadcast across the Six O'clock News who in the US cares about casualties in Ukraine? Who?
And while there are hopeful murmurings here in MIH about this nation or that nation in the EU getting tired of the war, I've been here in Europe for the last six weeks and I don't really see it. Granted its a big place and there are lots of people with differing points of view, but overall I see the European media still talking about one more Ukrainian push is all it will take. A European friend of mine yesterday told me that he thinks Russian casualties (including KIAs) have far exceeded Ukrainian casualties. Russia is still about to 'lose'. That's what he's reading and hearing. (He also has almost no idea who Hunter Biden is and what he and his father were up to...)
So, where does this leave us? No place good I would say. I think our best hope is still the American voter who does retain the power (at least theoretically) to throw Biden and the neocons out. Of course this will require candidates who can overcome the propaganda and censorship of the Uniparty and their spokespeople and the thumb the Dems have on the election scales. Donald Trump won once and probably won a second time. But even after winning the Uniparty stopped him. Will there be a candidate in 2024 who can win? And then overcome the Uniparty?
As far as 2024 is concerned, I would say its a tall order. I'm just not persuaded the People yet get it or there is a candidate who can do it.
People are sound asleep in Europe. It's been a good summer and the football season has just started. Only serious pain will destroy the complacency. As for 2024, not going to happen. DC is gone forever. Solutions need to start lower down the food chain.
"...the NeoCons have thought ahead and seek to degrade the US until it enters a terminal downward spiral."
I have heard a lot of intelligent people who are close observers recently say this and things like this. So I have to consider that this may be true.
But it is a bitter pill to swallow and hard to digest. So those who have succeeded to leadership of our Exceptional Nation...our City on a Shining Hill...the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave...Including those who have taken an oath of office to Uphold the Constitution...and who have led us into battle to Preserve Our Democracy...actually want this country to fail. Presumably somehow for their benefit.
But how? How will a ruined United States of America benefit anybody, including what is left of the Democrat/Marxist/Progressive/Woke/Lawyer Elites who somehow remain on top? Isn't the next step after the failure of this country some kind of mutually assured destruction?
So they intend to 'win' by destroying everything? Through a terminal downward spiral?
Dear Ashowa - one goodness in our lives is the truth of the aphorism tied to the frailty of man's big plans (... of mice and men ...). The WEFset was doomed from the get go (it is a near permanent condition of elites in every era that this lesson is constantly revisited the hard way). I do not know how things will play out, and they could still become dire, but with certainty the one thing I know won't come to fruition is the WEFset. Our times are frustratingly fluid & opaque - mind your local situation, watch your six. And know you are loved
So many dissidents and geopolitical pundits like Crooke foresee unrest coming perhaps as soon as this fall. I think in desperation the regime is now going into full crack down mode. Deplatforming is the tame way to shut down dissent, but the recent killing by the FBI is a message they will tolerate no dissent.
Totally agree. I see the violence being perpetrated by federal authorities as a catalyst for an increase in dissent and yes, social unrest. Their actions are proof that the progressives accusations of fascism on the right is projection.
And they've just had a bumper harvest. With the grain deal dead because the West couldn't demean itself by fulfilling its obligations, Russia has now taken over all of Ukraine's agricultural markets and is making a killing selling cheap grain to whoever wants it. The only place that can't take advantage of this bonanza is the EU because they sanctioned Russian products. Nice job, neocons!
Very enlightening and confirming what many of us suspected. However, these kind of revelations, no matter how shocking and explosive, just seem to disappear into the ether without any effect. I wonder if anyone is listening out there and some kind of resistance is building?
For those not in the historical loop, Greek Catholic Ukrainians are dominant in West Ukraine, formerly Polish controlled areas. They are the hard core Nazis--not all, but that area is the hotbed of Ukrainian nationalism. That is the area where the CIA recruited and tried to conduct irregular war against the USSR in the 50s.
"Greek Catholic Ukrainians are dominant in West Ukraine, formerly Polish controlled areas." No wonder no-one in the West understands the history and politics of this area! :)
Stupid and psychopathic. A lethal cocktail. They simply can't stand to lose. They can walk away from Afghanistan and know that the sheep will forget it in a few months. But they can't slink away from Ukraine and survive.
I think people will forget about Ukraine if the West walks away, at least in the US. Msm stops covering it, just like the war in Congo that killed 6 million people, but no coverage. Most people still don’t know where Ukraine is. Perhaps Scott Ritters deplatforming is the start of the news blackout.
Europe is different, since the Ukraine War directly impacts them. From energy, inflation, currency, and refugees.
Constant chaos is needed to distract and confuse the proles. I'd like to think people are becoming wise to the con being perpetrated upon us. Have you ever chanced upon Helena glass? She has some terrific stuff at her site.
"Every action Congress initiates is dictated behind the scenes. Getting riled by their failure to actually act on their words is useless because their words don’t belong to them. They are simply following orders."
Not stupid, but rather committed to the great reset and the WEF. Destruction of America as it was and is at the moment is exactly what they are doing. They have been very open about this. Can’t have 8B+ people on earth it’s 7.5B too many according to the Malthusians
And they all really believe “they” will be the ones who survive and be in control. Of what? Again no historical sense. No understanding that they are merely next in line to be eaten. Oh well, most of us will be long gone.
You are on point, Joseph, that’s the great fallacy of the great reset. The zealots do not realize they are the dessert to be eaten last, but eaten nevertheless.
I didn’t cite evil driving this. Just stating what’s been said and the implications and there is plenty of written about their position.. This is rather more ideological zealotry, in opinion, enabled by those who gain from the chaos and care little for those affected as they believe the power resides in them so they will not be hurt and do not not care. I agree Malthusian ideas are bunk and always have been. You can see their ideas as the root of eugenics. Powergrabbing indeed.
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The Ukraine war, and our ruling class’s moral incompetence, in a picture.
You’re right, our ruling class’ moral degeneracy is on full display in this spiraling conflict. I always thought, and as Mark -and Crooke have shown, the battle has been lost on land (long known but brushed aside, looking for more “gains”) and so has now moved to the sea. “What need we fear who knows it when none can call our power to account?” Truly frightening.
Michael Morrell = CIA inbreeding.
Imagine if Trump said the things MM is free to say…as a friend in NYC once said: “I could, but I’d rather not.”
The Polish President Said Kiev Isn’t Doing The West Any Favors & Its Counteroffensive has failed.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4174550/posts
Anyone with experience with both Poles and Ukrainians could see this coming. It's why I've never bought the idea of Poland trying to carve off part of Ukraine.
Maybe the Poles are finally seeing sense. Putin and Lukashenko have been very canny by building up their forces in Belarus. It has pulled a lot of Polish troops to the Belarus border and away from the Ukrainian one.
Exactly what I was thinking of writing. As you know, I've never bought into the idea that Poland was going to invade West Ukraine, but drawing them off toward Belarus may have additional benefits, perhaps for the future.
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Russia warns ECOWAS not to take military action against Niger
Military action against coup leaders in Niger would lead to a "protracted confrontation", Russia has warned.
There's a new boss in town.
Morell: Nice country you got here. Shame if sumthin' was to happen to it.
PS: There's a Congressman, Mike Morrell (2 L's)
The neocons only learn the hard way. Putin's going to have to up the ante against them. As for that poor Ukr kid who got killed, his picture sums up the pure evil of the neocons more than thousands of words ever could.
Neocons care less about poor Ukraine kids. They’ve absolved themselves of the war as a necessity to protect the global rules based order.
I don't think neocons even care about their own kids, except as extension of themselves.
Can’t say I’m surprised, terrified yes, but not surprised. I’ve given up on the idea that any of these clowns are rational, they are totally frickin nuts! They believe that they can continue to ratchet up the provocation of Russia with impunity and ignore the rapidly approaching freight train labeled “Reality Express”. I am convinced that they are hell bent on pushing and pushing and pushing and damn the consequences. So what if 20-30 million people die, cost of doing business. No Republicans to stop them. Legacy media is so completely oblivious to the truth, or reporting on it that it’s laughable. An imbecile is sitting in the Oval Office while the world races toward an historic calamity that will make WW 1 and 2
look like a subway scuffle.
The media. Our legacy media to use your phrase, are are 20 and 30 year olds who have zero historical sense. As well as being frickin nuts. And hyped up on pot and worse.
'hyped up on pot'...is a oxymoron
Yes the under 30 crowd has been criminally misled, imagine being...
Innumerate, Illiterate(with every form of ignorance this breeds), and jacked up on.....pharma
100% agree Joe, except for one little thing: Chuck Todd, Britt Hume and a host of other “journalists” haven’t seen 30 in a loong time and they damn well outta have more than just a bit of historical sense, but if they do I haven’t seen it. When veteran journalists set such a lousy example for the “youngsters” guess we shouldn’t be surprised at how fatuous the reporting has become. Maybe if they actually familiarized themselves with what their responsibilities are in this republic, things would be different. But we all know that ain’t happening.
Yep. Key point: where are the Republicans? What do they do all day?
They are on the phone with their brokers?
Or looking up new adjectives for their next strongly worded letter.
Looking up adjectives for their next strongly worded tweet. Fixed it for ya - yw! ;-)
Good catch - Tweets have far more gravitas!
Maybe when the pigs gather at the trough in Westminster in the Autumn, they could get a visit from Mr Khinzal
Oh so maybe pigs will fly!
Gott in Himmel - are so many of our elites up to their eyeballs in corruption in Ukraine that we have come to this? Not a peep from DC as to the issues and risks being involved in a European land war with a nuclear advisary? May the Lord be with us and guide us - our leaders are not, and they are mad
Scott Ritter just got deplatformed by YouTube - why now?
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2023/august/11/youtube-deplatforms-shows-of-scott-ritter-prominent-critic-of-us-activities-in-ukraine-war/
My guess there is a mothership involved. Be a shame if the Russians boarded it.
I wonder how the Russia will retaliate.
Interesting the US is still focused on Syria. Interesting no mention of Niger.
Was the Waco-ing of the 300 lb, blind son caretaker, needed a cane, but posted threats about Biden to change the subject from Ukraine? Or from domestic concerns. Or just to show how awesome the fbi is?
The more I learn about the Utah Debacle, the more disgusted I am.
WH admin censors at work.
"I wonder how the Russia will retaliate."
I forgot to include this:
https://twitter.com/Nikolai11449196/status/1689867519790637056
They also took out a brigade hq for a brigade that was NATO trained, presumably with lots of NATO officers at the hq. Also three Kinzhals hit the airfield where f-16 training was supposed to be going on.
Agreed. The Russians know exactly where all NATO staff are. I see more Kinzhals in their future.
What I think.
My expectations is lots of locations with Nato Officers in Ukraine will be targeted soon. I have been surprised Russia has not done this yet. I don't think there are F-16's in Ukraine yet. Training is taking place outside of Ukraine as far as I know. There is shortage of English speaking pilots, so many have to take English classes first. And when the F-16's get to Ukraine, their range makes them useless, without air to air refueling for the version they are getting. Plus the issue they need a cleared airfield, with no small debris on it since the air intake is on the bottom. Soviet have the ability to get air from above the wing.
This could be more like classroom training. I saw this here:
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1689998026608136193
It appears the Russians are heavily targeting any airfields used for the storm shadows.
I wonder how many storm shadow's are left? UK only had around 700-1,000 to begin with. And Russia is targeting them both on the ground and shooting them down. And now the UK is in talks to purchase an Israeli Missile because of it's low storm shadow stocks.
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2023/07/03/uk-israeli-storm-shadow/
The French have a version that they're supplying after the UK basically ran out of what they could or wanted to provide.
France is going to give Ukraine around 50 missiles.
France supposedly only has 400 of their version:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/11/what-are-frances-scalp-missiles-and-how-can-they-help-ukraine
Germany has 600 of their cruise missile the Taurus, and is going to give some to Ukraine:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sure-sounds-like-germany-is-giving-ukraine-the-mighty-taurus-cruise-missile/ar-AA1f1ASi
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I got the same thing.
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Day later (Sabbath observer here), and I also get the "doesn't exist" message, FYI.
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You may need to be logged in, or perhaps there is shadow banning going on. I could not get to it either.
Can't get it either. Hmmm, one could get paranoid in this business!
Steghom21- What does it say about my mindset, when I started laughing after reading your comment?
Yes, they really are playing for all the marbles. Trump is going to prison and the 2024 elections will be stolen. However, I believe that their other initiatives will fail. Scaring people into taking a deadly vaccine because of a glorified flu virus is one thing, but using "climate change" to scare them into exchanging their comfy, materialistic lives for the drab existence of a medieval peasant is another thing entirely.
They've been playing for all the marbles for quite some time... you might say since the absurd Trump impeachments...or the absurd Steele Dossier...or the absurd Comey exoneration of Mrs Clinton.
Or before those absurdities, the absurd firing of Prosecutor Shokin...or Ms Nuland's Maidan revolution...or Romney's incomprehensible loss. Except before that there was the absurd invasion of Iraq...and before that the attempted theft of all of Russia's wealth and resources...and a while before that the Gulf of Tonkin and before that the assassinations of RFK, MLK and JFK. Eisenhower warned us.
The handwriting has been on the wall for quite some time.
We might need a bigger wall
…and 9/11? Now I wonder…
I have the normal person's fear of being labeled a tinfoil loon, but I have to wonder too. The NIST final report just doesn't hang together.
The smear is intended to steer you away from the inconvenient truth they are desperately trying to hide.
Yeah. I wonder, too.
The other day I found myself wondering if the Michael Flynn fiasco was a fake to take Trump down from the inside. Trump's national security advisor was surveilled and accused of lying to Mike Pence about a conversation with Kislyak and fired. Really? The NSA can't talk to a Russian official about US/Russia relations?
The whole story was so utterly preposterous. I wonder too.
More on Pence from Emerald Robinson:
https://www.emerald.tv/p/the-treachery-of-vp-mike-pence-explained
After the actions of Pence in the last two years you have to be inclined to believe Pence likely lied himself about Flynn's untruthfulness.
But then how do you explain how the Republican establishment circled the wagons, marshalled all their resources, came to the aid of Trump and Flynn? :-)
Exactly.
Yes, I remember. The DS was ruthless with someone just doing his job but…but…Trump had to be stopped.
War solves a lot of problems for the evil ones. At some point, Europe is going to have to put on its man pants and save itself.
Excellent, Ashowa.
All this is why I get so frustrated by the typical American attitude that 'philosophy' is a waste of time or is just words that make no difference. It makes all the difference in the world. We got here through the breakdown of Christian thought, that included philosophy. 25 words or less, we've reverted to forms of Platonism, riffs off a Platonic theme. The great sin of the Church was allowing Neo-platonic thought to gain entry (in the West esp. through Augustine) as if it were compatible with Christian faith and philosophy that lies behind that faith. It is not, and a return to Plato a la so many Straussians is not the way forward. The return to Christian faith and what Gilson calls the metaphysics of being or of Exodus. God as creative Act.
While we wait for that to happen :-( we would do well to how we got to this point, which is a start toward the right way forward. We are in the hands of madmen who have perverted philosophy into ideology and are now seeking to replace God as new creators. Understanding how we got here also tells us how to find our way out.
Re Putin as appeaser, I don't believe that's a fair assessment. Not to Putin, not to Chamberlain.
Re Chamberlain, consider that he may not have so much been an appeaser as a would be manipulator who, with the rest of the Anglo-American establishment, was attempting to direct Germany into a war with Russia, and that that grand scheme backfired.
Re Putin, he had several huge tasks to take in hand before he could say 'No more.' He had to get Russian back on its feet economically and socially. He had to get control of the government away from oligarchs in league with the West. He had to get control of the financial system and harden it against sanctions. He had to develop a network of international relationships that could also help Russia whether the coming assault--sanctions, trade disruption, etc. And he was waiting for the game changing hypersonic missiles to become operational (2018). He waited for a few more years because he didn't want to slaughter Ukrainians wholesale, as the West has forced him to do as proxies of the West.
"Re Chamberlain, consider that he may not have so much been an appeaser as a would be manipulator who, with the rest of the Anglo-American establishment, was attempting to direct Germany into a war with Russia, and that that grand scheme backfired."
great popint. The overarching fear of the Brits was Germany (and Russia) compromising their hold on mid-eastern oil fields and India, the "Jewel of the Crown."
Mark, I admit there are flaws which you point out in my analogy. But the fact remains that it has been the US and its dwarfs which has been the aggressor. Not Putin. I suspect we agree that Putin is doing the right thing now.
I believe you are correct here, but the big problem is most people either know little of history or are still seeing Russia as the USSR. How often did you hear the lie at the beginning of this conflictthat Russia was intent on resurrecting the old Soviet empire. I believe Russia has moved on from the horror of communism. Instead of raping and plundering Russia in the 90's we should have been building a bridge to cooperation. Instead of building up China we could have helped rebuild Russia and the world might have been better off. Instead we let the neocons plot their revenge for issues of the past.
I've heard about Satanism among the elite. I have no argument for our against the claim. But I don't think the Bible's eschatology depends on it. And while I do believe scripture teaches that there will be a significant harvest among the Jewish people as the end approaches, it's not clear to me that secular Israel plays a major role. I'm neither confirming nor denying, just saying I don't know.
I've written a series of articles on the Revelation which I plan to publish on substack sooner or later...
I agree that given the insanity/absurdity of the past and present, you certainly can't rule out the logical progression of more insanity/absurdity in the future. I also don't think anyone can safely predict what form the insanity/absurdity will take. That's in the nature of insanity/absurdity. Full on '1984'? Why not?
I actually believe Putin is to be credited for drawing his redline with US provocation in Ukraine and then (finally) backing it up with troops and missiles. While its painful (many casualties) how else do you stop a bully? I have written here in the past that I think you can say Putin -- far from being 'Hitler' in this tragi-comedy -- actually played the role of 'Chamberlain', the appeaser, for far too long. We are a very powerful bully and now he has his hands full stopping us...both in Ukraine and across the globe.
So I think we can, in fact, safely predict more insanity/absurdity until the bully is stopped.
And Biden and the Neocons have no incentive to stop...The war probably helps Biden net/net try to get re-selected. It definitely helps the defense industry and is probably 'good' for what is left of our 'economy'. Why is the stock market up and unemployment down? As long as American boys aren't splattering their blood across Ukrainian villages and grain fields and coming home in body bags broadcast across the Six O'clock News who in the US cares about casualties in Ukraine? Who?
And while there are hopeful murmurings here in MIH about this nation or that nation in the EU getting tired of the war, I've been here in Europe for the last six weeks and I don't really see it. Granted its a big place and there are lots of people with differing points of view, but overall I see the European media still talking about one more Ukrainian push is all it will take. A European friend of mine yesterday told me that he thinks Russian casualties (including KIAs) have far exceeded Ukrainian casualties. Russia is still about to 'lose'. That's what he's reading and hearing. (He also has almost no idea who Hunter Biden is and what he and his father were up to...)
So, where does this leave us? No place good I would say. I think our best hope is still the American voter who does retain the power (at least theoretically) to throw Biden and the neocons out. Of course this will require candidates who can overcome the propaganda and censorship of the Uniparty and their spokespeople and the thumb the Dems have on the election scales. Donald Trump won once and probably won a second time. But even after winning the Uniparty stopped him. Will there be a candidate in 2024 who can win? And then overcome the Uniparty?
As far as 2024 is concerned, I would say its a tall order. I'm just not persuaded the People yet get it or there is a candidate who can do it.
People are sound asleep in Europe. It's been a good summer and the football season has just started. Only serious pain will destroy the complacency. As for 2024, not going to happen. DC is gone forever. Solutions need to start lower down the food chain.
"...the NeoCons have thought ahead and seek to degrade the US until it enters a terminal downward spiral."
I have heard a lot of intelligent people who are close observers recently say this and things like this. So I have to consider that this may be true.
But it is a bitter pill to swallow and hard to digest. So those who have succeeded to leadership of our Exceptional Nation...our City on a Shining Hill...the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave...Including those who have taken an oath of office to Uphold the Constitution...and who have led us into battle to Preserve Our Democracy...actually want this country to fail. Presumably somehow for their benefit.
But how? How will a ruined United States of America benefit anybody, including what is left of the Democrat/Marxist/Progressive/Woke/Lawyer Elites who somehow remain on top? Isn't the next step after the failure of this country some kind of mutually assured destruction?
So they intend to 'win' by destroying everything? Through a terminal downward spiral?
Dear Ashowa - one goodness in our lives is the truth of the aphorism tied to the frailty of man's big plans (... of mice and men ...). The WEFset was doomed from the get go (it is a near permanent condition of elites in every era that this lesson is constantly revisited the hard way). I do not know how things will play out, and they could still become dire, but with certainty the one thing I know won't come to fruition is the WEFset. Our times are frustratingly fluid & opaque - mind your local situation, watch your six. And know you are loved
Agreed, Bruce. Their plans will fail, as will Team Biden's. But at what cost to us? That's the rub.
I’ll take the under regarding the over/under at the point where you state “if they can’t force Putin to escalate@.
So many dissidents and geopolitical pundits like Crooke foresee unrest coming perhaps as soon as this fall. I think in desperation the regime is now going into full crack down mode. Deplatforming is the tame way to shut down dissent, but the recent killing by the FBI is a message they will tolerate no dissent.
The FBI will get dissent whether they want it or not. Free speech is like a muscle: use it or lose it. Social unrest is definitely on the cards.
Totally agree. I see the violence being perpetrated by federal authorities as a catalyst for an increase in dissent and yes, social unrest. Their actions are proof that the progressives accusations of fascism on the right is projection.
And they've just had a bumper harvest. With the grain deal dead because the West couldn't demean itself by fulfilling its obligations, Russia has now taken over all of Ukraine's agricultural markets and is making a killing selling cheap grain to whoever wants it. The only place that can't take advantage of this bonanza is the EU because they sanctioned Russian products. Nice job, neocons!
Very enlightening and confirming what many of us suspected. However, these kind of revelations, no matter how shocking and explosive, just seem to disappear into the ether without any effect. I wonder if anyone is listening out there and some kind of resistance is building?
For those not in the historical loop, Greek Catholic Ukrainians are dominant in West Ukraine, formerly Polish controlled areas. They are the hard core Nazis--not all, but that area is the hotbed of Ukrainian nationalism. That is the area where the CIA recruited and tried to conduct irregular war against the USSR in the 50s.
"Greek Catholic Ukrainians are dominant in West Ukraine, formerly Polish controlled areas." No wonder no-one in the West understands the history and politics of this area! :)
Thank you for that anecdotal factoid. I thought it was because he was Ukrainian.
Stupid. Greedy. Fools.
Stupid and psychopathic. A lethal cocktail. They simply can't stand to lose. They can walk away from Afghanistan and know that the sheep will forget it in a few months. But they can't slink away from Ukraine and survive.
I think people will forget about Ukraine if the West walks away, at least in the US. Msm stops covering it, just like the war in Congo that killed 6 million people, but no coverage. Most people still don’t know where Ukraine is. Perhaps Scott Ritters deplatforming is the start of the news blackout.
Europe is different, since the Ukraine War directly impacts them. From energy, inflation, currency, and refugees.
Or they'll give us a new "crisis" to take our mind off it.
Trial balloons for crises so far:
1. New pandemic - mink pox failed
2. Global warming, cooling, boiling?
3. Food shortages
4. Rise of right wing extremists
5. Lgbt hate attacks
6. Growth of online Hate speech
Constant chaos is needed to distract and confuse the proles. I'd like to think people are becoming wise to the con being perpetrated upon us. Have you ever chanced upon Helena glass? She has some terrific stuff at her site.
"Every action Congress initiates is dictated behind the scenes. Getting riled by their failure to actually act on their words is useless because their words don’t belong to them. They are simply following orders."
Try this:
https://helenaglass.net/2023/08/10/world-economic-forum-rebuilding-our-future/
They end up like Hillary: obese, smelly and perpetually drunk.
Zhou and cronies have the blood of 3-400,000 Ukrainian lives, and more walking wounded and maimed. But never mind! Anything’s better than Trump!
Harvard degree?
Not stupid, but rather committed to the great reset and the WEF. Destruction of America as it was and is at the moment is exactly what they are doing. They have been very open about this. Can’t have 8B+ people on earth it’s 7.5B too many according to the Malthusians
And they all really believe “they” will be the ones who survive and be in control. Of what? Again no historical sense. No understanding that they are merely next in line to be eaten. Oh well, most of us will be long gone.
You are on point, Joseph, that’s the great fallacy of the great reset. The zealots do not realize they are the dessert to be eaten last, but eaten nevertheless.
It's funny how those who advocate for reducing the population never lead by example.
I didn’t cite evil driving this. Just stating what’s been said and the implications and there is plenty of written about their position.. This is rather more ideological zealotry, in opinion, enabled by those who gain from the chaos and care little for those affected as they believe the power resides in them so they will not be hurt and do not not care. I agree Malthusian ideas are bunk and always have been. You can see their ideas as the root of eugenics. Powergrabbing indeed.
Ideological zealotry and evil are often synonymous. The first usually brings you sooner or later to the second.