"If there were no objective truth, only 'my truth,' 'your truth,' and 'the cat's truth,' then your belief that there's a sweater under the bed would be just as true as the cat's belief that it's not your sweater. You would reach under the bed for the sweater, and it would be there. The cat would not claw you.
The same applies to jumping off a building. If the postmodernists’ truth that 'We won’t die' were just as true as my truth that 'Sorry, but you *will* die,' then they could step off the building and remain suspended in mid-air. I, on the other hand, would plummet to certain death because that’s what 'my truth' requires.
Those things don’t happen. Even postmodernists know it when they’re not making their confused arguments. Even if beliefs are true relative to their systems of belief, objective truth still exists independently of our belief systems. As we test our beliefs by comparing them with new evidence and analysis, our beliefs approach objective truth *asymptotically* -- i.e, they get closer and closer to reality but can never quite reach it because our belief systems are finite and reality is infinite."
“a not-so distant future in which the values and morals of the majority are controlled by a small group who rule by a perfect understanding of psychology, and who in turn, being able to see through any system of morality that might induce them to act in a certain way”
Lewis explores the same ideas in his “space trilogy,” especially in “That Hideous Strength.” When it came out in the mid 1940s it must have seemed wild-eyed and alarmist. But today I find it chillingly prophetic.
Could I suggest that you read the latest article by Alexander Dugin which is interesting and though provoking and can be found on katehon.com. I would very much like to see your analysis of his thoughts.
Its a great article and while I personally agree with much of what is said, typically for Dugin there are statements that I really don’t accept which may be simply due to his perspective as a Russian. As that site has no provision for comments its similar to politicians and the controlled media, they can say anything without fear of challenge but someone really should or you can just enjoy the article.
Ellmers is spot on with his diagnosis of the ills facing the USA (and Europe). After the theft of the 2020 and 2022 elections, I for one cannot face another two years of conservative fools telling us "We'll get 'em for sure in 2024!" Free and fair elections, at least at the federal level, are finished in the US, and there's no point wasting time and energy on them. He is also right on target with his more optimistic observations: "You can throw nature out with a pitchfork, said the Roman poet, but she will always return. This fact is liberating and inspiring. Standing on the side of human nature is exactly where we want to be." This ultimately is what will defeat Wokeism: Nature and Reality will always have the final vote. These two decisive forces will increasingly flex their muscles and demand their say as Wokeism gets ever crazier.
A final point concerning objective moral values. What has always amused me about the Wokeists, despite their claims that all values are relative, is how thoroughly absolutist they are. In a single breath, they'll tell you that you are a fascist if you believe there are fixed, eternal values, are then go on to say how it is absolutely certain that there are 57 genders. Not much relativism there! As anyone, like myself, who has crossed these crazies knows, these supposed stormtroopers of relativism are among the most absolutist people on the planet.
I had forgotten about MDWA. The "inmates as guards" idea certainly seems to have a lot of currency in our present day culture (with its ubiquitous, hegemonic media and as illustrated by the COVID regime). Of course that is not the first time in history it has been shown - Nazi Germany comes quickly to mind. So it appears there is an aspect of our mentality that fears individual "separateness" and craves group approval. The Bible often refers to us as sheep. Not hard to see why. As an aside, I never did like New York. Is this why? I will have to think about that one. Thanks
Thanks Robert, but let's be clear: You did NOT buy a subscription. Subscriptions here are free. I generally agree with all this about the open borders program:
"The strategy of American business, encouraged by neoliberal Democrats and libertarian conservative Republicans alike, has been to lower labor costs in the United States, not by substituting labor-saving technology for workers, but by schemes of labor arbitrage: Offshoring jobs when possible to poorly paid workers in other countries and substituting unskilled immigrants willing to work for low wages in some sectors, like meatpacking and construction and farm labor. American business has also driven down wages by smashing unions in the private sector, which now have fewer members—a little more than 6% of the private sector workforce—than they did under Herbert Hoover."
And the Senate engaged in some union busting re railroad workers. The workers currently get NO SICK DAYS. They were holding out for 7 per year.
No disrespect to our service personnel but, we had "F-15's and nukes" in Afghanistan. We aren't there anymore. Biden and his lackey crew are idiots. They've never watched Wolverines either. A dedicated group of patriots can accomplish quite a bit
* for the NSA creepers out there, I am not advocating violence. Just pointing out the fallacy of claiming that superior weaponry always indicates victory. Liberty is a candle not easily extinguished.
What is man that you are mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him? Yet you have made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor. You have given him dominion over the works of your hands; you have put all things under his feet, (Ps 8:4-6)
You're right, there are examples of the above. But they shock us with their barbarity or cowardice. Texas has the greater truth.
You've gone pretty far from a narrow topic, which was parents dying for their children rather than defending them up to a point.
The Jewish God made it very clear that death would follow if the image bearers violated the minor limits that he placed on their lives. All that has followed is death. Did you suppose that misery would be surgically limited to those that 'deserved' it?
And yet the followers of the Jewish God put an end to abortion and even slavery (twice). But the Jewish God warned that his followers would be infiltrated and corrupted (Matt 13:24-30), and the time approaches when the church can no longer do its work (John 9:4).
Even salted meat will spoil; the world's appetite for destruction cannot be held forever in check. We await the final restoration, but we continue the fight.
Trump is a problem solver. I don't think it occurred to him that the public health 'servants' were not prioritizing public health - were not trying to solve the problem of Covid.
You can argue the point all day, but that was a radical proposition for the vast majority of Americans until Covid.
Mark, have you watched www.humancondition.com?
I would be positively intrigued by your insights after watching the 4x15m video.
"If there were no objective truth, only 'my truth,' 'your truth,' and 'the cat's truth,' then your belief that there's a sweater under the bed would be just as true as the cat's belief that it's not your sweater. You would reach under the bed for the sweater, and it would be there. The cat would not claw you.
The same applies to jumping off a building. If the postmodernists’ truth that 'We won’t die' were just as true as my truth that 'Sorry, but you *will* die,' then they could step off the building and remain suspended in mid-air. I, on the other hand, would plummet to certain death because that’s what 'my truth' requires.
Those things don’t happen. Even postmodernists know it when they’re not making their confused arguments. Even if beliefs are true relative to their systems of belief, objective truth still exists independently of our belief systems. As we test our beliefs by comparing them with new evidence and analysis, our beliefs approach objective truth *asymptotically* -- i.e, they get closer and closer to reality but can never quite reach it because our belief systems are finite and reality is infinite."
https://www.consilience-publishing.com/whysanepeople/
Interesting. Thanks.
“a not-so distant future in which the values and morals of the majority are controlled by a small group who rule by a perfect understanding of psychology, and who in turn, being able to see through any system of morality that might induce them to act in a certain way”
Lewis explores the same ideas in his “space trilogy,” especially in “That Hideous Strength.” When it came out in the mid 1940s it must have seemed wild-eyed and alarmist. But today I find it chillingly prophetic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Hideous_Strength
Could I suggest that you read the latest article by Alexander Dugin which is interesting and though provoking and can be found on katehon.com. I would very much like to see your analysis of his thoughts.
Its a great article and while I personally agree with much of what is said, typically for Dugin there are statements that I really don’t accept which may be simply due to his perspective as a Russian. As that site has no provision for comments its similar to politicians and the controlled media, they can say anything without fear of challenge but someone really should or you can just enjoy the article.
Ellmers is spot on with his diagnosis of the ills facing the USA (and Europe). After the theft of the 2020 and 2022 elections, I for one cannot face another two years of conservative fools telling us "We'll get 'em for sure in 2024!" Free and fair elections, at least at the federal level, are finished in the US, and there's no point wasting time and energy on them. He is also right on target with his more optimistic observations: "You can throw nature out with a pitchfork, said the Roman poet, but she will always return. This fact is liberating and inspiring. Standing on the side of human nature is exactly where we want to be." This ultimately is what will defeat Wokeism: Nature and Reality will always have the final vote. These two decisive forces will increasingly flex their muscles and demand their say as Wokeism gets ever crazier.
A final point concerning objective moral values. What has always amused me about the Wokeists, despite their claims that all values are relative, is how thoroughly absolutist they are. In a single breath, they'll tell you that you are a fascist if you believe there are fixed, eternal values, are then go on to say how it is absolutely certain that there are 57 genders. Not much relativism there! As anyone, like myself, who has crossed these crazies knows, these supposed stormtroopers of relativism are among the most absolutist people on the planet.
I had forgotten about MDWA. The "inmates as guards" idea certainly seems to have a lot of currency in our present day culture (with its ubiquitous, hegemonic media and as illustrated by the COVID regime). Of course that is not the first time in history it has been shown - Nazi Germany comes quickly to mind. So it appears there is an aspect of our mentality that fears individual "separateness" and craves group approval. The Bible often refers to us as sheep. Not hard to see why. As an aside, I never did like New York. Is this why? I will have to think about that one. Thanks
I used to go to power line every day. No more. Sometime during the Trump administration I just couldn’t take it anymore.
Sounds worthwhile.
https://www.amazon.com/After-Humanity-Guide-Lewiss-Abolition-ebook/dp/B093TKK5W1
Yes. I own (and read) the Gillespie book.
Thanks Robert, but let's be clear: You did NOT buy a subscription. Subscriptions here are free. I generally agree with all this about the open borders program:
Michael Lind quoted at https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/everything-is-broken
"The strategy of American business, encouraged by neoliberal Democrats and libertarian conservative Republicans alike, has been to lower labor costs in the United States, not by substituting labor-saving technology for workers, but by schemes of labor arbitrage: Offshoring jobs when possible to poorly paid workers in other countries and substituting unskilled immigrants willing to work for low wages in some sectors, like meatpacking and construction and farm labor. American business has also driven down wages by smashing unions in the private sector, which now have fewer members—a little more than 6% of the private sector workforce—than they did under Herbert Hoover."
And the Senate engaged in some union busting re railroad workers. The workers currently get NO SICK DAYS. They were holding out for 7 per year.
No disrespect to our service personnel but, we had "F-15's and nukes" in Afghanistan. We aren't there anymore. Biden and his lackey crew are idiots. They've never watched Wolverines either. A dedicated group of patriots can accomplish quite a bit
* for the NSA creepers out there, I am not advocating violence. Just pointing out the fallacy of claiming that superior weaponry always indicates victory. Liberty is a candle not easily extinguished.
There have been many totalitarian states where the surveillance was even worse, yet they were overthrown.
What is man that you are mindful of him, and the son of man that you care for him? Yet you have made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor. You have given him dominion over the works of your hands; you have put all things under his feet, (Ps 8:4-6)
You're right, there are examples of the above. But they shock us with their barbarity or cowardice. Texas has the greater truth.
You've gone pretty far from a narrow topic, which was parents dying for their children rather than defending them up to a point.
The Jewish God made it very clear that death would follow if the image bearers violated the minor limits that he placed on their lives. All that has followed is death. Did you suppose that misery would be surgically limited to those that 'deserved' it?
And yet the followers of the Jewish God put an end to abortion and even slavery (twice). But the Jewish God warned that his followers would be infiltrated and corrupted (Matt 13:24-30), and the time approaches when the church can no longer do its work (John 9:4).
Even salted meat will spoil; the world's appetite for destruction cannot be held forever in check. We await the final restoration, but we continue the fight.
My dog says we're the animals.
My dog say, “wait...you can’t smell THAT?”
:)
can't argue with a cat. they'll just walk away!
Trump wanted to reopen the country by Easter. This idea was shot down by the “experts”. Trump was in a no-win situation.
This seems unfair.
Trump is a problem solver. I don't think it occurred to him that the public health 'servants' were not prioritizing public health - were not trying to solve the problem of Covid.
You can argue the point all day, but that was a radical proposition for the vast majority of Americans until Covid.
Agreed. And this by itself is nearly disqualifying in my view.
It strongly implies that he has no clue what Covid was all about.
It leaves me wondering if he knows and is playing a deep game, but I long ago abandoned the hope that Trump was playing multi-dimensional chess.