I regularly refer to the United States as undergoing a transformation from being a “consitutional republic” into what I term a National Security State.
Stunning and sickening. The document is essentially political and a call to action to investigate anyone not aligned to Democratic talking points on abortion doctrine, affirmative action doctrine, immigration doctrine, and LGBTQ doctrine; further, it is but a tiny hop from "radical traditional catholics" to ... everyone (see page 4 of the embedded doc, first paragraph under Outlook. Consider the last sentence of that paragraph = "During this same 12 to 24 month period, the overall RTC community is likely to remain stable or show modest growth based on potential dissafection with mainline Catholic churches on social issues in the aforementioned areas, providing RMVE a persistent Catholic-oriented base with which to interact" readily becomes "During this same 12 to 24 month period, the overall suspect Republican community is likely to remain stable or show modest growth based on potential dissafection with mainline social issues in the aforementioned areas, providing RMVE a persistent Republican-oriented base with which to interact". All of this seemingly drawn from an SPLC claim, two Salon web articles and an Atlantic web article. All of which are kinda-sorta-close to unhinged (nutter-talk). Tge scope is natiinal, based on the SPLC-identified groups. This is an acceptance-probe: can the DOJ/FBI use this as a hook to hang expanded politically motivated domestic-everybody surveillance on? Soon, we'll see positions counter to the doctrine of climate change included. Yep, that'ed be an excellent example of the National Security State in action, right there. Bravo Mr Wauck, although I am sorry you have to see your former fine institution as the exemplar.
"The document that I’m going to excerpt cites the SPLC, Salon, and The Atlantic for the proposition that “RTC’s” indulge in anti-semitic and violent rhetoric."
I am not surprised that white nationalism and the false accusation of antisemitism especially when SPLC is involved. SPLC is a left-wing Secular Jewish hate organization that uses the excuse of antisemitism to destroy those they disagree with and hate, especially those of the Christian Faith. There is a definite pattern emerging here that any and all criticism of groups like SPLC, ADL, NEOCONS, et-al will be immediately called anti-Semitic, yet those on the right and specifically white Christian Americans are unrelentingly referred to as White Supremacists and White Nationalists implying Naziism. This is a disgusting double standard. David Horowitz warned us this impugning of white America and Christianity was going to be a major push by the left to destroy Christianity in the West and specifically in the US and he sure was right.
Wonder how much SCOTUS' 2022 unanimous decision to uphold "state secrets" privilege above all else in the case involving FBI's mid-2000s use of informants in an Orange County (CA) mosque emboldened the FBI's pursuit of Catholics here. Either way, sickening...glad my father isn't alive to see this.
When I saw "Latin massers", I thought they meant illegals gathering at the southern border. This is all very bizarre. You wonder how much more people in the West are going to take.
Perhaps a forlorn hope, but one would pray the USCCB would engage bigly.
ArchBishop Vigano, please.
Somehow, 'holy hell' must be raised up. Millions of America's Catholics must stand tall. From every ambo in every church this attack on religious, Catholic liberty, must be identified and responded to.
Below, Tamsin paraphrased Lutheran Father Niemöller. Just so.
- -
I enjoy the daily podcast from Fr. Robert McTeigue, S.J., at the Station of the Cross.
More about Fr McT *
A year ago Fr McTeigue wrote this essay, recommended:
* "Fr. Robert McTeigue, S.J., is a member of the U.S. Eastern Province of the Society of Jesus. He is the host and producer of The Catholic Current, and he is on the National Ethics Committee of the Catholic Medical Association. His latest books from Ignatius Press are Real Philosophy for Real People: Tools for Truthful Living (2020) and Christendom Lost and Found: Meditations for a Post Post-Christian Era (2022)."
This FBI "Domain Perspective" employs the language one uses to describe the spread of a disease:
"increasingly observed interest of RMVEs in RTC ideology almost certainly presents new opportunities for threat mitigation through the exploration of new avenues for tripwire and source development,"
and
"overall the RTC community is likely to remain relatively stable or show modest growth, providing RMVEs with a persistent Catholic-oriented base with which to interact."
Well, Pope Francis himself rails against ideologies, without ceasing. And Fr. James Martin accuses an outfit like LibsofTikTok of inciting hatred for transgenders and putting LGBTQ people at risk of physical violence. So I guess the FBI is doing the Lord's work?
I left the RC church the day of Bergoglio's famous "Who am I to judge?" comments about homosexuality. I'd just extricated myself from the Swiss protestant church, which I'd witnessed descend into woke madness and thought I'd found the real thing in the RC church. It was very depressing to find after all the soul-searching that my destination was now run by this pathetic globalist.
Steghorn 21, if I might suggest take a look at the Eastern Orthodox Church. I grew up Catholic and my Mother was very faithful so she made sure all of us were properly engaged in our faith and parish. I met and married a woman of Greek descent and she was Greek Orthodox so I made the change. The Orthodox Church has the feel of the pre-VII RC. It allows their priests to marry and is not associated with the Papacy in Rome and so therefore not under the Bergoglio mess. I am horrified with what Francis is doing to the RC. Very similar to Russian Orthodox and in fact, it was the Greeks of Byzantium who converted the Russian people to Orthodox Christianity and Saint Cyril created the Russian alphabet (called Cyrillic). I have never looked back despite the fact my family remain Catholic. Little known in the West and under the radar, for now in America and the West. Some of the churches can be a little ethnic, but I find that adds interesting elements. Our Liturgy is in English with some Greek. There is the what's called the OCA or Orthodox Church of America which is completely in the English vernacular and largely non-ethnic. Many protestants looking for something better are finding Orthodoxy to fulfill their spiritual need.
"First they came for the Remnant, but I did not speak up because I didn't read the Remnant, though I tried watching Michael Matt's videos on 1.5x speed. Then they came for the Wanderer, but I did not speak up because I didn't read the Wanderer etc."
Let's see how many watch lists I can get myself put on:
I, X X X, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of Texas against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of Texas and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.
Don't tread on me
Come and take it
From my cold dead hands
Cui bono
I admit to having downloaded a PDF of The secret history of the Mongols on my computer.
You're wimping out here, Texan! Real rebels shout from the roof tops that "There are no genders outside of linguistics! You are either male or female!" Hey, someone's knocking at the door....:)
I've railed (in my long-winded ways) about our Representative Republic abandoned/replaced by democrat/progressives by the 'save democracy; it's under attack; J6 insurrection; blah blah blah. Our founders specifically considered democracy to be in opposition to the US Constitution they were framing. Not something some wacky conservative proposed, that it is from supposedly anti-democracy conservatism is just another example of the ongoing projection onto Constitutional Conservatives by dems of their intentions of totalitarianism.
I've heard it said if the dems are pointing accusing fingers, from 'attacking democracy' to 'racist! racist! racist!' the accusers are the guilty ones. I don't mean to cram all truth into such statements, but the batting average is pretty high for that truism.
I do wish you well Ms. Athena (and look forward to you sittin' down and sharing thoughts on your 'Stack!) Very best regards. (WRH)
They are encouraging millions to illegally immigrate from the countries representing ~40% of the worlds Catholics....and simultaneously planning to target...Catholics... in a scheme of political persecution...
Some super*sharp cats running around DC these days, eh?
While the attacks on Christianity are intentional, I believe deep seated in malicious 'larger plans' for control of the populace and certainly very a important topic, I enjoy you sharing some fun stuff with us, Mark. One must give due credit to the ever-prescient Babylon Bee... Thanks ! (WRH)
I saw this article a couple of hours ago and wondered to myself how long before you posted some thoughts Mark. You didn’t disappoint.
Every time I think that the bottom of the “bad news barrel” has been reached, some new outrage surfaces!
I chose the “smh” handle because honestly, shaking my head is about all I can muster up when another travesty of some sort is uncovered.
From plotting terrorist operations to blow up a Russian pipeline or “suddenly” discovering that anyone who holds traditional religious preferences is a threat to the republic, I do not recognize what this country’s government has been morphed into.
I, too, find the loss of our Representative Republic & Constitutional Gov't, disregard of laws and insanity of woke to leave little but shaking of my head in disgust. Thanks for the info on 'SMH' as July said, I've wondered... Hope you're having a great week thus far! (WRH)
"We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. " Frederic Bastiat
The key is making sure the vote count and any data gives the approved answer, by any means possible no matter the cost.
And through censorship and propaganda, to give people the correct beliefs. 1984 called it doublethink. Key is not letting normals know they are the majority.
There are lots of strange things going on that I would have regarded as impossible and conspiracy theories 10 years ago, but were proven true. The amount of lies, manipulation of data, and fraud make forecasting hard. The lefts capture of so many institutions, including cultural, is a huge advantage.
The gop is pretty clueless, and seems to mostly part of the uniparty. They are slowly getting a clue with a bit of culling, but the eGOP has been vicious on fighting Maga candidates.
Trumps election surprised me, as well as his successes after.
I see some positives, but the censorship and deep-state are a lot more powerful than I thought possible. I’m a lot more cynical now on the news, and unfortunately I wonder if I’m cynical enough.
Hello July & Ray, reading your comments what came to mind, less 1984 (altho important) is that Adolf Hitler rose to power with 32% of the vote. In a few years, with some 'good' being done for his country (VW Bug, for instance) power did it's thing and corrupted absolutely. Yes, insantity and all that but the horribly brilliant use of much of what 1984 mentioned and you guys did was put to work-censorship, the devious turning of neighbor upon neighbor, child upon parents etc., shows much of what's happening is not new but being employed, perhaps in different ways as we're in different times. But the pattern is not much different and success requires what Mark's topic here is about: assault on Faith in God because faith in Gov't is necessary for it all to work. It's no accident that around 49% of Working folks pay no fed income tax. We hear of the 1% paying 47%, etc., that while true it's the dependency class that includes low-income workers that is winning the day for totalitarianism. Strawmen, rich in particular abound, but loopholes and insider trading provides for them to be extra rich to cover their taxes. Again, the widening of the 'wealth gap' is evidence of the 'new scam' way of making poorer workers/welfare queens etc. be happy with their being held down. Long way to just want to remind us all it doesn't take a majority to destroy a country. Best regards to you! (WRH)
Stunning and sickening. The document is essentially political and a call to action to investigate anyone not aligned to Democratic talking points on abortion doctrine, affirmative action doctrine, immigration doctrine, and LGBTQ doctrine; further, it is but a tiny hop from "radical traditional catholics" to ... everyone (see page 4 of the embedded doc, first paragraph under Outlook. Consider the last sentence of that paragraph = "During this same 12 to 24 month period, the overall RTC community is likely to remain stable or show modest growth based on potential dissafection with mainline Catholic churches on social issues in the aforementioned areas, providing RMVE a persistent Catholic-oriented base with which to interact" readily becomes "During this same 12 to 24 month period, the overall suspect Republican community is likely to remain stable or show modest growth based on potential dissafection with mainline social issues in the aforementioned areas, providing RMVE a persistent Republican-oriented base with which to interact". All of this seemingly drawn from an SPLC claim, two Salon web articles and an Atlantic web article. All of which are kinda-sorta-close to unhinged (nutter-talk). Tge scope is natiinal, based on the SPLC-identified groups. This is an acceptance-probe: can the DOJ/FBI use this as a hook to hang expanded politically motivated domestic-everybody surveillance on? Soon, we'll see positions counter to the doctrine of climate change included. Yep, that'ed be an excellent example of the National Security State in action, right there. Bravo Mr Wauck, although I am sorry you have to see your former fine institution as the exemplar.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/02/09/fbi-recruiting-informants-spy-traditional-catholics-latin-mass-southern-poverty-law-center/
"The document that I’m going to excerpt cites the SPLC, Salon, and The Atlantic for the proposition that “RTC’s” indulge in anti-semitic and violent rhetoric."
I am not surprised that white nationalism and the false accusation of antisemitism especially when SPLC is involved. SPLC is a left-wing Secular Jewish hate organization that uses the excuse of antisemitism to destroy those they disagree with and hate, especially those of the Christian Faith. There is a definite pattern emerging here that any and all criticism of groups like SPLC, ADL, NEOCONS, et-al will be immediately called anti-Semitic, yet those on the right and specifically white Christian Americans are unrelentingly referred to as White Supremacists and White Nationalists implying Naziism. This is a disgusting double standard. David Horowitz warned us this impugning of white America and Christianity was going to be a major push by the left to destroy Christianity in the West and specifically in the US and he sure was right.
Wonder how much SCOTUS' 2022 unanimous decision to uphold "state secrets" privilege above all else in the case involving FBI's mid-2000s use of informants in an Orange County (CA) mosque emboldened the FBI's pursuit of Catholics here. Either way, sickening...glad my father isn't alive to see this.
When I saw "Latin massers", I thought they meant illegals gathering at the southern border. This is all very bizarre. You wonder how much more people in the West are going to take.
off topic, but an interesting read on the Biden classified docs saga…
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/closing-in-classified-document-coverup
Thank you, Mark.
Perhaps a forlorn hope, but one would pray the USCCB would engage bigly.
ArchBishop Vigano, please.
Somehow, 'holy hell' must be raised up. Millions of America's Catholics must stand tall. From every ambo in every church this attack on religious, Catholic liberty, must be identified and responded to.
Below, Tamsin paraphrased Lutheran Father Niemöller. Just so.
- -
I enjoy the daily podcast from Fr. Robert McTeigue, S.J., at the Station of the Cross.
More about Fr McT *
A year ago Fr McTeigue wrote this essay, recommended:
https://aleteia.org/2022/02/11/the-2-reasons-totalitarian-states-detest-the-church/
* "Fr. Robert McTeigue, S.J., is a member of the U.S. Eastern Province of the Society of Jesus. He is the host and producer of The Catholic Current, and he is on the National Ethics Committee of the Catholic Medical Association. His latest books from Ignatius Press are Real Philosophy for Real People: Tools for Truthful Living (2020) and Christendom Lost and Found: Meditations for a Post Post-Christian Era (2022)."
(Source:
https://thestationofthecross.com/fr-mcteigues-publications/)
This FBI "Domain Perspective" employs the language one uses to describe the spread of a disease:
"increasingly observed interest of RMVEs in RTC ideology almost certainly presents new opportunities for threat mitigation through the exploration of new avenues for tripwire and source development,"
and
"overall the RTC community is likely to remain relatively stable or show modest growth, providing RMVEs with a persistent Catholic-oriented base with which to interact."
Well, Pope Francis himself rails against ideologies, without ceasing. And Fr. James Martin accuses an outfit like LibsofTikTok of inciting hatred for transgenders and putting LGBTQ people at risk of physical violence. So I guess the FBI is doing the Lord's work?
I left the RC church the day of Bergoglio's famous "Who am I to judge?" comments about homosexuality. I'd just extricated myself from the Swiss protestant church, which I'd witnessed descend into woke madness and thought I'd found the real thing in the RC church. It was very depressing to find after all the soul-searching that my destination was now run by this pathetic globalist.
Steghorn 21, if I might suggest take a look at the Eastern Orthodox Church. I grew up Catholic and my Mother was very faithful so she made sure all of us were properly engaged in our faith and parish. I met and married a woman of Greek descent and she was Greek Orthodox so I made the change. The Orthodox Church has the feel of the pre-VII RC. It allows their priests to marry and is not associated with the Papacy in Rome and so therefore not under the Bergoglio mess. I am horrified with what Francis is doing to the RC. Very similar to Russian Orthodox and in fact, it was the Greeks of Byzantium who converted the Russian people to Orthodox Christianity and Saint Cyril created the Russian alphabet (called Cyrillic). I have never looked back despite the fact my family remain Catholic. Little known in the West and under the radar, for now in America and the West. Some of the churches can be a little ethnic, but I find that adds interesting elements. Our Liturgy is in English with some Greek. There is the what's called the OCA or Orthodox Church of America which is completely in the English vernacular and largely non-ethnic. Many protestants looking for something better are finding Orthodoxy to fulfill their spiritual need.
The... Remnant???
"First they came for the Remnant, but I did not speak up because I didn't read the Remnant, though I tried watching Michael Matt's videos on 1.5x speed. Then they came for the Wanderer, but I did not speak up because I didn't read the Wanderer etc."
Let's see how many watch lists I can get myself put on:
I, X X X, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of Texas against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of Texas and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.
Don't tread on me
Come and take it
From my cold dead hands
Cui bono
I admit to having downloaded a PDF of The secret history of the Mongols on my computer.
Sufficiently extreme? Only time will tell.
You're wimping out here, Texan! Real rebels shout from the roof tops that "There are no genders outside of linguistics! You are either male or female!" Hey, someone's knocking at the door....:)
Yeah, this has me wondering ...
Mark, Your first paragraph on this post was amazing. And completely frightening. Thanks. I think.
I thought the same thing
G'evening Ms. Athena,
I've railed (in my long-winded ways) about our Representative Republic abandoned/replaced by democrat/progressives by the 'save democracy; it's under attack; J6 insurrection; blah blah blah. Our founders specifically considered democracy to be in opposition to the US Constitution they were framing. Not something some wacky conservative proposed, that it is from supposedly anti-democracy conservatism is just another example of the ongoing projection onto Constitutional Conservatives by dems of their intentions of totalitarianism.
I've heard it said if the dems are pointing accusing fingers, from 'attacking democracy' to 'racist! racist! racist!' the accusers are the guilty ones. I don't mean to cram all truth into such statements, but the batting average is pretty high for that truism.
I do wish you well Ms. Athena (and look forward to you sittin' down and sharing thoughts on your 'Stack!) Very best regards. (WRH)
Let me get this straight...
They are encouraging millions to illegally immigrate from the countries representing ~40% of the worlds Catholics....and simultaneously planning to target...Catholics... in a scheme of political persecution...
Some super*sharp cats running around DC these days, eh?
Kind of like closing down natural gas production in the US and then bombing a natural gas pipeline in the
Baltic in order to sell more US nat gas to the EU.
Makes total sense .... to nobody.
Seraphin says he joined the USAF looking for a career path to the FBI. I guess he didn't know about this easier way:
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1623488430826029062
While the attacks on Christianity are intentional, I believe deep seated in malicious 'larger plans' for control of the populace and certainly very a important topic, I enjoy you sharing some fun stuff with us, Mark. One must give due credit to the ever-prescient Babylon Bee... Thanks ! (WRH)
The revolving door! Why didn’t I think of that?
I saw this article a couple of hours ago and wondered to myself how long before you posted some thoughts Mark. You didn’t disappoint.
Every time I think that the bottom of the “bad news barrel” has been reached, some new outrage surfaces!
I chose the “smh” handle because honestly, shaking my head is about all I can muster up when another travesty of some sort is uncovered.
From plotting terrorist operations to blow up a Russian pipeline or “suddenly” discovering that anyone who holds traditional religious preferences is a threat to the republic, I do not recognize what this country’s government has been morphed into.
I, too, find the loss of our Representative Republic & Constitutional Gov't, disregard of laws and insanity of woke to leave little but shaking of my head in disgust. Thanks for the info on 'SMH' as July said, I've wondered... Hope you're having a great week thus far! (WRH)
I always wondered what SMH meant, thanks. Sorry for being so behind the times!
Hey, no problem, glad I cleared up the mystery:-)
"We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. " Frederic Bastiat
What happens when their “lists” eventually number over 51% of the population?
The key is making sure the vote count and any data gives the approved answer, by any means possible no matter the cost.
And through censorship and propaganda, to give people the correct beliefs. 1984 called it doublethink. Key is not letting normals know they are the majority.
In 1984, the state wins over the normals. Do you see the outcome being any different from that now? If so, what happens to make it so?
I don’t know.
There are lots of strange things going on that I would have regarded as impossible and conspiracy theories 10 years ago, but were proven true. The amount of lies, manipulation of data, and fraud make forecasting hard. The lefts capture of so many institutions, including cultural, is a huge advantage.
The gop is pretty clueless, and seems to mostly part of the uniparty. They are slowly getting a clue with a bit of culling, but the eGOP has been vicious on fighting Maga candidates.
Trumps election surprised me, as well as his successes after.
I see some positives, but the censorship and deep-state are a lot more powerful than I thought possible. I’m a lot more cynical now on the news, and unfortunately I wonder if I’m cynical enough.
Hello July & Ray, reading your comments what came to mind, less 1984 (altho important) is that Adolf Hitler rose to power with 32% of the vote. In a few years, with some 'good' being done for his country (VW Bug, for instance) power did it's thing and corrupted absolutely. Yes, insantity and all that but the horribly brilliant use of much of what 1984 mentioned and you guys did was put to work-censorship, the devious turning of neighbor upon neighbor, child upon parents etc., shows much of what's happening is not new but being employed, perhaps in different ways as we're in different times. But the pattern is not much different and success requires what Mark's topic here is about: assault on Faith in God because faith in Gov't is necessary for it all to work. It's no accident that around 49% of Working folks pay no fed income tax. We hear of the 1% paying 47%, etc., that while true it's the dependency class that includes low-income workers that is winning the day for totalitarianism. Strawmen, rich in particular abound, but loopholes and insider trading provides for them to be extra rich to cover their taxes. Again, the widening of the 'wealth gap' is evidence of the 'new scam' way of making poorer workers/welfare queens etc. be happy with their being held down. Long way to just want to remind us all it doesn't take a majority to destroy a country. Best regards to you! (WRH)
We deplorables, domestic terrorists all, already number more than 51% of the population.
And we aren't going away.