I’m not sure what led SWC to write these two tweets up, but here they are: All regular readers should be aware that I’ve been very adamant that I don’t see RICO at play in the Russia Hoax investigation—especially in response to commenter CTD. I don’t believe that SWC is suggesting that RICO is currently at play, either, nor that he wanted to get people’s hopes up. For RICO to be seriously at play I think there would have to be an expansion of Durham’s investigation beyond what we currently have any reason to believe is going on. Of course, there’s no harm in speculating.
I’ve been thinking RICO since reviewing info about the Maricopa County 2020 election audit, and now that we see even more evidence with 2000 Mules about to premier, it seems like a fit for the stolen election.
Many criminal charges are a fit for the 2020 election.
Unfortunately nobody with the required authority is interested / has been allowed to investigate.
The hints in the trailers of 2000 mules are tantalizing. Plus the fact the hubs of the mules are often organizations that have been around since the 60’s, founded by Alinsky.
Jovanhuttonpulitzer.locals.com analyzed the forensic info for the Maricopa audit and has tons tons of data reports available for free. Stunning stuff. Turned over to the AG along with other reports as well, from verityvote.us about chain of custody violations, and Shivas report on the missing and wrong signatures on ballot envelopes. It’s all available and in the hands of elected officials and ags across the nation. We are getting tired of excuses. We should just redo that election.
If certain actors were involved in several states, I see no reason why not. For that matter, with all the legal brains running around refusing to look at the evidence, that alone drives me nuts! Long ago someone wrote extensively about Quo Warranto, and I can’t see why someone isn’t smart enough to file in DC and make them PROVE they won legally and are legally in office. Also, down ballot issues are very relevant! Local offices, school boards, don’t tell me systemic election fraud, aided by NGOs and even ERIC, aren’t affected! It’s not just the presidency involved. The nation, and states individually, are being taken over by fraud. Check out the forensic analysis done from Maricopa. Sheesh.
Whatever Sussman's take may be on the risks of going rogue and singing for real, if the only legal threat he faces is the single false information count I bet he'd rather take his chances with a DC jury, an Obama judge and the entire establishment media rabidly on his side. If he still gets a little or even a lot of jail time out of it, he knows he'll come out like a hero in Demville and be on easy street the rest of his life.
But then again Durham may have 50 times more charges against Sussman and others than what he's revealing at present, so who really knows what factors all these cretins might actually be weighing?
Hard not to wonder just how far along the continuum between cooperating and spilling the beans has he actually gone (or might he yet go)? Couldn't he perhaps give a lot away but still jealously guard the juiciest bits, i.e., the stuff that would bring the whole despicable enterprise crashing to the ground? (Unless of course Durham really does have him truly good and screwed.)
Sussman is Clinesmith's counterpart scapegoat outside of Gov? All the tantalizing conspiracy charges and culprits remain forever just outside of reach?
Not necessarily. The big question is: Why would Clinesmith do something so stupid on his own--or did he? I've maintained all along that Durham's investtigation inexorably leads him to Team Mueller. The problem for a prosecutor is that he really shouldn't ethically indict if he doesn't truly believe he can convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. We know he has looked hard at members of Team Mueller, and got a plea from one. We don't know what else may be going on there. It's possible he doesn't believe he has a charge that he can get a conviction with, but then again he may be waiting for something else. We just don't know. But there is a story there.
This will be music to commenter CTD's ears. SWC is pointing out that the SOL for RICO conspiracy offenses is very attractive for prosecutors. I'll get into that later. That's putting the cart before the horse. You need a violation, first. The ticket for RICO is the obstruction charge, but you still need a pattern of activity. This is not easy to do. There are other obstacles as well. Better to stick to the evidence. We still haven't heard about conspiring to obstruct. Maybe Durham has something up his sleeve and is waiting to see if Sussmann will cave. Sussmann and his legal team will be aware of any possibilities in this direction--far better than we know.
No, you're not ahead of the game--you're just a broken record. And no, you're not knowledgeable, much less VERY knowledgeable, about RICO. You make regular mistakes, over and over. Most recently you exhibited your ignorance by stating that I had sketched out "all the elements of a RICO conspiracy"--totally missing the lack of predicate offenses so far as well, therefore, as a pattern of racketeering activity. Establishing a predicate act is only easy if you have the evidence and the act IS a predicate act under the statute.
Thanks for the follow-up Mark. SWC suggests broad interpretation at this time which you reference.
O/T Aug. 12th meeting at P/C (Elias office) with the key players right and which Seago alludes to in her testimony. On Aug. 11th, in Donna Brazille's book she references a meeting on the 7th floor of FBI office where Sussman badges in, Crowdstrike badges in, but the DNC rep's get security scrutinized where ultimately a meeting takes place to share the Russia hack of the DNC material.
Leslie MacAdoo Gordon read this book and shared some twitter insight back around March 10th where she is very suspicious of this meeting. Most tweet responders rely on Brazille's words as trusted however Leslie is more suspicious. The book was written in 2017.
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You find out things - that they can’t dispute later - when you read their books.
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She said she was scared for life. My guess is she found out major details and worried that she would end up “killing herself”
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That’s not the part that’s interesting.
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Reading isn’t believing. It’s evidence gathering.
@McAdooGordon
wow, that's an important find!
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She’s not making up that she went to the FBI on that date with Michael Sussman to discuss the DNC hack. The question is how does that fit into the puzzle of what Sussman was doing & why.
Perhaps Sussman was cashing in some "checks" or a "hedge" with this visit (& Crowdstrike).
Would be interested in getting your thoughts around all of this, the timing, etc. when you get some time down the road.
What was Peter Strzok’s role? Why was he tasked with Hillary’s email case and responding to press inquiries about the Rich murder - something that it seems ordinarily would be handled by the DC Field Office?
Strzok was an FBHQ Section Chief, who would have handled oversight of field cases within his purview. At first glance, his involvement in the Rich case seems to have been due to the claims of Russian hacking of the DNC. That would have been in his purview, which was Russian counterintelligence. Beyond that I can't say.
I believe Kash Patel’s latest Epoch Times video from Friday fingered Laura Seago from Fusion GPS and David Dagon from Georgia Tech / Joffe’s team as two who are cooperating and immunized.
No. Because meeting with Baker in his office isn't an official proceeding. It's a separate criminal offense, which Sussmann is being charged with: 18 USC 1001. Making a false statement to the federal government.
But remember, the prosecution would have to prove that it was done as the action of a "joint venture" or "enterprise"--not as the purely personal action of an individual.
I’ve been thinking RICO since reviewing info about the Maricopa County 2020 election audit, and now that we see even more evidence with 2000 Mules about to premier, it seems like a fit for the stolen election.
Many criminal charges are a fit for the 2020 election.
Unfortunately nobody with the required authority is interested / has been allowed to investigate.
The hints in the trailers of 2000 mules are tantalizing. Plus the fact the hubs of the mules are often organizations that have been around since the 60’s, founded by Alinsky.
https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/exposing-americas-ballot-trafficking-c4e?s=r
Jovanhuttonpulitzer.locals.com analyzed the forensic info for the Maricopa audit and has tons tons of data reports available for free. Stunning stuff. Turned over to the AG along with other reports as well, from verityvote.us about chain of custody violations, and Shivas report on the missing and wrong signatures on ballot envelopes. It’s all available and in the hands of elected officials and ags across the nation. We are getting tired of excuses. We should just redo that election.
If certain actors were involved in several states, I see no reason why not. For that matter, with all the legal brains running around refusing to look at the evidence, that alone drives me nuts! Long ago someone wrote extensively about Quo Warranto, and I can’t see why someone isn’t smart enough to file in DC and make them PROVE they won legally and are legally in office. Also, down ballot issues are very relevant! Local offices, school boards, don’t tell me systemic election fraud, aided by NGOs and even ERIC, aren’t affected! It’s not just the presidency involved. The nation, and states individually, are being taken over by fraud. Check out the forensic analysis done from Maricopa. Sheesh.
Sussman knows that suicide is always an option were he to try pleading out and testifying.
Whatever Sussman's take may be on the risks of going rogue and singing for real, if the only legal threat he faces is the single false information count I bet he'd rather take his chances with a DC jury, an Obama judge and the entire establishment media rabidly on his side. If he still gets a little or even a lot of jail time out of it, he knows he'll come out like a hero in Demville and be on easy street the rest of his life.
But then again Durham may have 50 times more charges against Sussman and others than what he's revealing at present, so who really knows what factors all these cretins might actually be weighing?
But Elias--probably the most important Dem campaign lawyer--has cooperated and is out and about acting like all is normal.
Hard not to wonder just how far along the continuum between cooperating and spilling the beans has he actually gone (or might he yet go)? Couldn't he perhaps give a lot away but still jealously guard the juiciest bits, i.e., the stuff that would bring the whole despicable enterprise crashing to the ground? (Unless of course Durham really does have him truly good and screwed.)
Sussman is Clinesmith's counterpart scapegoat outside of Gov? All the tantalizing conspiracy charges and culprits remain forever just outside of reach?
Not necessarily. The big question is: Why would Clinesmith do something so stupid on his own--or did he? I've maintained all along that Durham's investtigation inexorably leads him to Team Mueller. The problem for a prosecutor is that he really shouldn't ethically indict if he doesn't truly believe he can convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. We know he has looked hard at members of Team Mueller, and got a plea from one. We don't know what else may be going on there. It's possible he doesn't believe he has a charge that he can get a conviction with, but then again he may be waiting for something else. We just don't know. But there is a story there.
This will be music to commenter CTD's ears. SWC is pointing out that the SOL for RICO conspiracy offenses is very attractive for prosecutors. I'll get into that later. That's putting the cart before the horse. You need a violation, first. The ticket for RICO is the obstruction charge, but you still need a pattern of activity. This is not easy to do. There are other obstacles as well. Better to stick to the evidence. We still haven't heard about conspiring to obstruct. Maybe Durham has something up his sleeve and is waiting to see if Sussmann will cave. Sussmann and his legal team will be aware of any possibilities in this direction--far better than we know.
No, you're not ahead of the game--you're just a broken record. And no, you're not knowledgeable, much less VERY knowledgeable, about RICO. You make regular mistakes, over and over. Most recently you exhibited your ignorance by stating that I had sketched out "all the elements of a RICO conspiracy"--totally missing the lack of predicate offenses so far as well, therefore, as a pattern of racketeering activity. Establishing a predicate act is only easy if you have the evidence and the act IS a predicate act under the statute.
Regarding Seth Rich, there's some interesting transcribed testimony from Ryan D. White here:
http://dark2light.bearblog.dev/seth-rich/
Strange read. True in parts. I wonder which parts? Smells a bit like disinformation.
Thanks for the follow-up Mark. SWC suggests broad interpretation at this time which you reference.
O/T Aug. 12th meeting at P/C (Elias office) with the key players right and which Seago alludes to in her testimony. On Aug. 11th, in Donna Brazille's book she references a meeting on the 7th floor of FBI office where Sussman badges in, Crowdstrike badges in, but the DNC rep's get security scrutinized where ultimately a meeting takes place to share the Russia hack of the DNC material.
Leslie MacAdoo Gordon read this book and shared some twitter insight back around March 10th where she is very suspicious of this meeting. Most tweet responders rely on Brazille's words as trusted however Leslie is more suspicious. The book was written in 2017.
Leslie McAdoo Gordon ⚖️ 👠🇺🇸
@McAdooGordon
·
Mar 10
You find out things - that they can’t dispute later - when you read their books.
Mar 10
Replying to
@McAdooGordon
She said she was scared for life. My guess is she found out major details and worried that she would end up “killing herself”
Leslie McAdoo Gordon ⚖️ 👠🇺🇸
@McAdooGordon
·
Mar 10
That’s not the part that’s interesting.
Leslie McAdoo Gordon ⚖️ 👠🇺🇸
@McAdooGordon
Mar 10
Reading isn’t believing. It’s evidence gathering.
@McAdooGordon
wow, that's an important find!
Jellenne🇺🇸🌵🌞
@jellen805
Leslie McAdoo Gordon ⚖️ 👠🇺🇸
Mar 10
She’s not making up that she went to the FBI on that date with Michael Sussman to discuss the DNC hack. The question is how does that fit into the puzzle of what Sussman was doing & why.
Perhaps Sussman was cashing in some "checks" or a "hedge" with this visit (& Crowdstrike).
Would be interested in getting your thoughts around all of this, the timing, etc. when you get some time down the road.
Hard to say. No doubt Durham knows, will have spoken to FBI personnel at the meeting.
What was Peter Strzok’s role? Why was he tasked with Hillary’s email case and responding to press inquiries about the Rich murder - something that it seems ordinarily would be handled by the DC Field Office?
Strzok was an FBHQ Section Chief, who would have handled oversight of field cases within his purview. At first glance, his involvement in the Rich case seems to have been due to the claims of Russian hacking of the DNC. That would have been in his purview, which was Russian counterintelligence. Beyond that I can't say.
Thanks, Mark
I believe Kash Patel’s latest Epoch Times video from Friday fingered Laura Seago from Fusion GPS and David Dagon from Georgia Tech / Joffe’s team as two who are cooperating and immunized.
Correct. Margot Cleveland's been on that angle, too.
No. Because meeting with Baker in his office isn't an official proceeding. It's a separate criminal offense, which Sussmann is being charged with: 18 USC 1001. Making a false statement to the federal government.
Any of the named offenses in preparation for GJ testimony or trial would be my guess.
But remember, the prosecution would have to prove that it was done as the action of a "joint venture" or "enterprise"--not as the purely personal action of an individual.