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It's Just Me's avatar

"I think Mr Trump was not elected to start a new war. He was elected in response to grave dissatisfaction by the American people with the existing situation in our country, and if he can't fix that he's not going to last very long as a legitimate leader of our nation."

Amen.

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Richard C. Cook's avatar

The Zio-Neocons who run DoD want WW III. Good luck with that Trump.

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Joe's avatar

In the case of Syria we don't have any idea what is going to happen

It may be worthy to first ask who is paying for what and how

For example it appears Israel is now pot committed to control Syria so the US is on the hook

Isreal economy and reserve army probably not able alone so when the airstrikes end

what then money and men may be needed

The airstrikes are easy US pays and provides weapons but the airstrikes seem to be angering the civilian and other Syrians public media I have read seems to indicate the civilians thought get rid of Asaad and everyone will be your friend

I can only imagine Netanyahu inevitably wants and needs additional US Troops in Syria

Noting: while it appears ports and airfields were destroyed by US Israeli bombing I have not read any reports that Russia aircraft nor Russia ships were destroyed so appears at least temporarily that Russia is staying out of it

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Manul's avatar

Trump seems somewhat inclined to sabotage himself.

"President-elect Donald Trump sent a message to Russian President Vladimir Putin following the collapse of the Assad regime in Syria after Islamist opposition fighters captured Damascus. He called for an immediate cease-fire in Ukraine."

A cease fire while the US/NATO are supplying weapons and aid? The Biden administration is trying to shovel out the dollars to Ukraine as fast as possible before Trump takes office.

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johnycomelately's avatar

A belicose Turkey buoyed by its military success in Karabakh and Syria could see it take on the Kurds. An interesting prospect for the US.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Indeed. Imagine Trump actually pulling out of Syria like he wanted to. Clearing the decks for some regional power competition. And then there's Iraqi Kurdistan in the wings, long coveted by Turkey for oil and water. How will Iran and Russia view an expansionist Turkey? Not to mention Israel--in that scenario they'd want the US back, if they ever allowed the US to leave.

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Sarcastic Cynical Texan's avatar

Neocon's 21st century, super duper, whiz bang, achievements, abridged Muslim world edition:

Saddam done away with - "Mission Accomplished", results, chaos, death, destruction, misery, $$$.

Taliban removed - 2 decades later - Taliban restored, after chaos, death, destruction, misery, $$$.

Qaddafi assassinated - "we came, we saw, he died . . . evil cackle" - results, chaos, death, destruction, misery, $$$.

Assad gone into exile, Syria dismembered - ???

I would expect that every state that borders with the former Syria is going to be very busy with chaos, death, destruction, misery, $$$.

Satanyahoo & Erdogan especially should have heeded the warning: Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it !!!

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

What Assad’s overthrow does not change:

- Houthi economic blockade continues

- Israel is more and more hated in Arab world after seizing Syrian territory

- Israel failed to make meaningful progress in Lebanon

- Northern Israel is still perceived as unsafe

- Gaza is requiring huge resources to occupy and is not quelled with no end in site

- Israeli soldiers casualties continue in Gaza

- Israeli public is unhappy with current status

- Israel is still set up for short wars

- Iran’s missile power could devastate Israel

- U.S. is seen as an Israeli accomplice by the Arab street

- Israel is losing the pr campaign outside the West with images from Gaza having a huge impact

- Russian supplied Iranian air defense deters Israeli attacks in Iran

- U.S. forces are soft targets in the middle east.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

Israel is over playing their hand. There will be blowback for this. Turkey will be seen as enabling and abetting the Israeli behavior. Turkey now owns the Syrian mess.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Are you sure? Seems they finally won the 2006 war.

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NFO's avatar

...and seemingly unconcerned about the optics of such overplaying. Israel has declared Golan its own since the early '80s, I believe (and I think we (Trump?) gave recognition), but, again, its the brazen visual for the rest of the ME that won't be forgotten.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-tanks-reach-just-25km-south-damascus-netanyahu-declares-golan-ours-forever

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Thanks, looks interesting. I agree that Arab distrust of Turkey will reach new heights and will drive them toward Iran--not the US.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

I wonder…

Could letting Syria fall be an attempt by Iran to cause Israel to further over extend itself?

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NFO's avatar

Thanks, will definitely check out. Had forgotten about Vzglad. Used to read them for business/markets. They were always very straight-forward in their reporting.

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dissonant1's avatar

Macgregor's statements regarding Trump, as you note, are very reassuring. Especially coming from a guy who completely understands what the Russian position is and what they will require at a minimum. I was also glad to hear Macgregor's insistence that any negotiations must include all of the states bordering Russia as well as Germany. Thanks again.

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dissonant1's avatar

Thanks for the link!

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