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Thanks to two headlines in Zerohedge I now feel reassured. We were all wondering why the raid/search? Now we know. "FBI Was Looking For Classified Nuclear Secrets During Mar-a-Lago Raid: Leak"
Also I now know that when threatened I know who to call. Instead of 911 or directly to the police who are now afraid to use deadly force I will call the IRS. All I have to do is tell them that the burglar threatening me is almost certainly evading paying his taxes. The headline reads: "Be Willing To Use Deadly Force": IRS Sparks Uproar Over Job Posting"
BREAKING: Garland is gonna explain it all. That should tell you all you need to know about what the pollsters have already learned. When you have to publicly explain why the crazy thing you did was actually somehow perfectly reasonable, you've probably already lost the PR fight.
Karl Denninger (at the Market Ticker) had some extremely interesting “speculations” about the MAL raid. In simplistic terms, Trump lured them into a mole hunt, so that he, Trump, could smoke out the traitor in his organization. As comments and speculation have been put forth that the warrant was based on a “ human source” someone may be losing sleep over this. I would love it to be true.
“This was a serious crime, but Berger cut a deal with the Justice Department to stay [out] of jail, … [to] avoid a full explanation of what he had ripped off.”
Hmmm, who was at DOJ at the time....from a press release dated April 1, 2005 (April Fool’s Day no less!):
WASHINGTON, D.C. - Assistant Attorney General Christopher A. Wray of the Criminal Division announced today that former National Security Advisor Samuel R. Berger has pleaded guilty to a charge of knowingly removing classified documents from the National Archives and Records Administration.
Berger entered a guilty plea this morning at federal court in Washington, D.C. to one count of violating 18 U.S.C. § 1924, a misdemeanor. As part of his plea agreement, Berger has agreed to cooperate with the government concerning his activities at the National Archives.
According to the facts admitted during his guilty plea, Berger was reviewing classified documents at the National Archives in July, September and October of 2003 in connection with requests for documents made by the National Commission Investigating Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (the 9-11 Commission). On September 2, 2003, and again on October 2nd, Berger concealed and removed a total of five copies of classified documents from the Archives. The documents were different versions of a single document. Berger, who possessed a United States government security clearance and was aware of the laws and rules regarding classified documents, knew he was not authorized to remove the classified documents from the Archives.
Berger took the documents to his office in the District of Columbia, where he destroyed three of the copies. Soon after the October visit, the Archives discovered that documents were missing and, two days later, contacted Berger. Initially, Berger did not tell the Archives staff that he had taken the documents but later that night told Archives staff that he had “accidentally misfiled” two of them. The next day, he returned to Archives staff the two remaining copies of the five documents he had taken during the September and October visits. Each of the five copies of the document was produced to the 9-11 Commission in due course.
In his plea, Berger also admitted that he concealed and removed his handwritten notes from the Archives prior to a classification review, in violation of Archives rules and procedures. Those notes have been returned to the government.
Berger faces a maximum sentence of up to one year in jail, a $100,000 fine and a year of supervised release. According to the plea agreement, Berger has agreed to cooperate with the government and to surrender his security clearance.
The case was investigated by Special Agents of the Washington Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Inspector General of the National Archives and Records Administration, and was prosecuted by Criminal Division Trial Attorneys Thomas Reilly of the
Counterespionage Section, which is headed by Section Chief John Dion, and Howard Sklamberg of the Public Integrity Section, which is headed by Section Chief Noel Hillman.
First off, this FBI raid on Mar al Lago was without question the dumbest thing done against Trump in all the past seven years. It is a public relations disaster. Silence is not golden when it comes to Biden, the VP and any member of Congress. If you don't come out against the raid you are for it. The FBI now has to come up with something like a signed, sealed and delivered order for a coup, a cache of bombs and weapons or something equally shocking, or maybe start World War III to get this off the headlines. So everybody is now asking why did they do it?
The purported document theory is weak. Making it impossible for him to run for office is even less likely. More likely they were after something big. You have to understand that if the Trump Presidency was being sabotaged, they did a very poor job of it. As I see it, Trump learned quickly to tolerate a high level of insubordination, to roll with the punches and to gain advantages in multiple ways, using his enemies to advance his cause even as they thought they were using him. He couldn't throw these people out, and when he did, as with Comey, he got a lot of flack and Wray, the replacement, was hardly an improvement. What he did do was work with a trusted few and have his own private security in addition the that which the government provided. He also had many in our military and elsewhere who were loyal to him, and among these were super-spies of a caliber you cannot imagine. Another thing which must be understood is that insubordination , while exposing one to being fired, is not necessarily a crime.
My theory is that Trump wants to give us our Country back. He said it on December 2, 2020. Although we benefit most, for him it represents the ultimate challenge, something he himself will take pride in as an amazing accomplishment even if we do not fully appreciate it. He now has solid evidence of crime, even high crimes and misdemeanors bordering on treason, and can shake our government to its very foundation. They have their moles (Trump knows this, and maybe uses them) and are fully aware of the danger he poses. For some reason they thought there was much to be gained by a thorough search of Mar al Lago.
No disrespect, but we heard this before for four years. It was satisfying, inspiring of hope, and even intoxicating to think that Trump really had a plan all along. Apparently, he didn't (unless you're positing that losing and getting dragged through endless legal warfare is part of that plan).
No disrespect, but I go back many years and could never imagine a raid like this or a stolen election like 2020 taking place in this country. You lack appreciation for the fact that President Trump survived in the jungle Washington has become and yes, did make this Country great as is evidenced by what we are now facing as Biden has systematically undone all the wonderful things Trump accomplished, energy independence, a win in Afghanistan, restraining Russia, China, Iran and North Korea from doing anything rash, no shortages or supply chain problems and keeping inflation low. He is now waiting for the support of people like you in order to proceed with his plans.
I found astonishing the resilience that Trump displayed for four years. I do not denigrate what he accomplished, but unfortunately--as you must admit--it was all too easily erased. This was mostly the fault of an obstructionist GOPe that refused to support the agenda on which he ran and was elected. Also unfortunately, I think it is not really arguable that Trump created his own problems via disastrous personnel selections. He may have had lousy material to work with, but in the end the buck stops at the president's desk.
Trump is not waiting for support from me. My wife and I decided to move out of CA to swing state AZ where my political effort would not be futile. I became a precinct committeeman and walked the hot summer streets knocking on doors for America First candidates in the recent primary. I served as a poll observer and will do the same in November. I still doubt that Trump's plan involved getting his teeth kicked in for six years now, but he DID serve a crucial role: he pulled the mask of the faces of the deep state and Dem regime. I'm doing what I'm doing for the same reason that millions around the country are getting involved in grass roots politics. The ephemeral nature of Trump's successes need to be bolstered with patriotic politicians, tough legislation at the state level, and wholesale cleansing of the Augean stables in D.C. Trump is necessary but nowhere near sufficient. Without a nationalist uprising manifested at all levels of politics, no proof of deep state malfeasance will advance the cause. We already know who is evil and what needs to be done. First we have to have the warriors to replace all the roadblocks.
I stand in awe of what you are doing. If you, and people like you, can get us 218 MAGA seats in Congress this November, this would be the essential first step. Most of those seats will be easy and uncontested. The borderline ones will require much effort and diligence to avoid election fraud. My point is we are now dealing with criminals who can and will be prosecuted by Trump. He has the evidence. After that we can go back to politics as usual.
Sandy Berger is a "great patriot", but for what patria? What nation? Now, or in the future? Do I get a vote on what Antony Blinken wants for America? Listening to Obama, at least he honestly said he thought we must fundamentally transform America. People could vote for that and did vote for that. Maybe?
Our political class has studied and taken to heart what Machiavelli said about rulers breaking the rules. It helps them get over any lingering doubt they may have had about lying, cheating, and stealing, that came from studying Scripture. And we're well removed from studying Scripture.
Stacey Lennox has a good article at PJ Media: "Does the FBI Always Raid Homes They Visited a Few Weeks Ago?" She writes:
"Then Guiliani shared information that makes it even more unclear why the FBI needed to raid Mar-a-Lago. “The FBI padlocked this room a few weeks ago. They just went and broke the padlock they put there.” Even more shocking, Giuliani asserted that “They [the FBI] went there a few weeks ago. They searched the whole place. They saw everything. They said it wasn’t secure enough. So they put in an additional padlock.” If the FBI secured the documents a few weeks ago, how could Trump’s handling of them in the interim necessitate a few dozen agents raiding his estate Monday?"
Read her column this morning as well. She takes apart the Newsweek article that relied on "two anonymous law enforcement sources." I was glad to see someone catch on to the FBI/DOJ/CIA script of going to a trusted media source to write up a good tale of misdirection and misinformation, e.g. the Russian Hoax. That playbook's pages are getting dog-eared.
Who is to say what Trump has or has not done vis-a-vis docs that might implicate FBI/DOJ/CIA/etc as bad actors in the Russia conspiracy. But I would have to think even Trump would know better than to keep that stuff in his home, and if he did, to keep copies of it somewhere else as well. Remember that Giuliani was also raided (that I think was NY and not Fed, but can't recall 100%). And they also were at his residence already. If I were Trump, I'd have multiple backups secured through various untraceable connections.
You could trust them to release it nomatter what, but doubt they'd hold it back until Trump decides it's the right time. I think what Wikileaks via DNC/Hillary emails did was journalism and defend it as such, but they are not exactly pro-US.
I'd think someone like Giuliani/other trusted close aides as cutouts and then another layer of cutout from there. Have several copies so that anything discovered can trigger releases as warranted. Make it so DOJ/FBI would have to raid thousands of potential holders of the information--the high school fling of a cutout twice removed from Trump should be just as likely to have it.
Every agency involved in illegal conspiracies has to pick up after itself. I remember when two FBI agents approached an attorney representing the estate of Jack Anderson. They wanted access to his papers; the attorney told them to take a flying leap. More of that attitude is necessary.
Before that I was completely opposed to the idea that it was an inside job.
Afterwards...well, since the Saudi's evidently funded it, that makes bin Laden's involvement unnecessary.
He also argues from his experience as a pilot that the maneuvers needed to crash those big, heavy planes into those buildings (esp the Pentagon) at speeds greatly exceeding their normal operating speeds belie skills far beyond the training they were supposed to have received. But he argues that they trained in portions of the western deserts that are not covered by our air traffic control systems, which I find doubtful - they could just as easily have trained in SA. Anyway, I forced my father to read the book; he was a navy pilot and flight instructor, and while he does not accept the inside job theory, he did concede that the skills needed, once laid out in the book, must have been far greater than he had ever considered before.
So I'm firmly undecided now.
I can easily believe it of Cheney, but I have a harder time with Bush.
But when you start running it through the "who benefits from this" analysis, it is quite troubling.
Eventually, Marshall was murdered with his children, reported as a murder-suicide. But that may also have been for his revelations that he was involved as a black ops pilot in Iran-Contra. All the other pilots were later murdered, but his involvement had escaped notice...
there's been quite a bit of chatter about how one of the secondary ground zero building collapses appeared to have been a precision drop.
I'm an architect, but I just don't know enough about hi-rise demolition to opine on the question. You can find discussions and presentations on YouTube.
Kipling was a man who understood so much about how the world worked. I’ve come to loving him late in life, but better late than never! Thank you for sharing.
Thanks to two headlines in Zerohedge I now feel reassured. We were all wondering why the raid/search? Now we know. "FBI Was Looking For Classified Nuclear Secrets During Mar-a-Lago Raid: Leak"
Also I now know that when threatened I know who to call. Instead of 911 or directly to the police who are now afraid to use deadly force I will call the IRS. All I have to do is tell them that the burglar threatening me is almost certainly evading paying his taxes. The headline reads: "Be Willing To Use Deadly Force": IRS Sparks Uproar Over Job Posting"
What if they were lured into the raid by President Trump?, as I have seen written and talked about by a few journalists.
BREAKING: Garland is gonna explain it all. That should tell you all you need to know about what the pollsters have already learned. When you have to publicly explain why the crazy thing you did was actually somehow perfectly reasonable, you've probably already lost the PR fight.
And now a raid is a search. Is that like in 'search and destroy'?
At last we'll have clarity so that we can Trust the Government (TM) again!
I'm so relieved!
Karl Denninger (at the Market Ticker) had some extremely interesting “speculations” about the MAL raid. In simplistic terms, Trump lured them into a mole hunt, so that he, Trump, could smoke out the traitor in his organization. As comments and speculation have been put forth that the warrant was based on a “ human source” someone may be losing sleep over this. I would love it to be true.
“This was a serious crime, but Berger cut a deal with the Justice Department to stay [out] of jail, … [to] avoid a full explanation of what he had ripped off.”
Hmmm, who was at DOJ at the time....from a press release dated April 1, 2005 (April Fool’s Day no less!):
WASHINGTON, D.C. - Assistant Attorney General Christopher A. Wray of the Criminal Division announced today that former National Security Advisor Samuel R. Berger has pleaded guilty to a charge of knowingly removing classified documents from the National Archives and Records Administration.
Berger entered a guilty plea this morning at federal court in Washington, D.C. to one count of violating 18 U.S.C. § 1924, a misdemeanor. As part of his plea agreement, Berger has agreed to cooperate with the government concerning his activities at the National Archives.
According to the facts admitted during his guilty plea, Berger was reviewing classified documents at the National Archives in July, September and October of 2003 in connection with requests for documents made by the National Commission Investigating Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (the 9-11 Commission). On September 2, 2003, and again on October 2nd, Berger concealed and removed a total of five copies of classified documents from the Archives. The documents were different versions of a single document. Berger, who possessed a United States government security clearance and was aware of the laws and rules regarding classified documents, knew he was not authorized to remove the classified documents from the Archives.
Berger took the documents to his office in the District of Columbia, where he destroyed three of the copies. Soon after the October visit, the Archives discovered that documents were missing and, two days later, contacted Berger. Initially, Berger did not tell the Archives staff that he had taken the documents but later that night told Archives staff that he had “accidentally misfiled” two of them. The next day, he returned to Archives staff the two remaining copies of the five documents he had taken during the September and October visits. Each of the five copies of the document was produced to the 9-11 Commission in due course.
In his plea, Berger also admitted that he concealed and removed his handwritten notes from the Archives prior to a classification review, in violation of Archives rules and procedures. Those notes have been returned to the government.
Berger faces a maximum sentence of up to one year in jail, a $100,000 fine and a year of supervised release. According to the plea agreement, Berger has agreed to cooperate with the government and to surrender his security clearance.
The case was investigated by Special Agents of the Washington Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Inspector General of the National Archives and Records Administration, and was prosecuted by Criminal Division Trial Attorneys Thomas Reilly of the
Counterespionage Section, which is headed by Section Chief John Dion, and Howard Sklamberg of the Public Integrity Section, which is headed by Section Chief Noel Hillman.
Oh my! Nice catch, Pat. So, Wray has prior Deep State experience. No wonder someone thought he was the right guy for the job at this point in history.
First off, this FBI raid on Mar al Lago was without question the dumbest thing done against Trump in all the past seven years. It is a public relations disaster. Silence is not golden when it comes to Biden, the VP and any member of Congress. If you don't come out against the raid you are for it. The FBI now has to come up with something like a signed, sealed and delivered order for a coup, a cache of bombs and weapons or something equally shocking, or maybe start World War III to get this off the headlines. So everybody is now asking why did they do it?
The purported document theory is weak. Making it impossible for him to run for office is even less likely. More likely they were after something big. You have to understand that if the Trump Presidency was being sabotaged, they did a very poor job of it. As I see it, Trump learned quickly to tolerate a high level of insubordination, to roll with the punches and to gain advantages in multiple ways, using his enemies to advance his cause even as they thought they were using him. He couldn't throw these people out, and when he did, as with Comey, he got a lot of flack and Wray, the replacement, was hardly an improvement. What he did do was work with a trusted few and have his own private security in addition the that which the government provided. He also had many in our military and elsewhere who were loyal to him, and among these were super-spies of a caliber you cannot imagine. Another thing which must be understood is that insubordination , while exposing one to being fired, is not necessarily a crime.
My theory is that Trump wants to give us our Country back. He said it on December 2, 2020. Although we benefit most, for him it represents the ultimate challenge, something he himself will take pride in as an amazing accomplishment even if we do not fully appreciate it. He now has solid evidence of crime, even high crimes and misdemeanors bordering on treason, and can shake our government to its very foundation. They have their moles (Trump knows this, and maybe uses them) and are fully aware of the danger he poses. For some reason they thought there was much to be gained by a thorough search of Mar al Lago.
For some reason I have this humorous thought of Trump calling in the fbi lead that caused the raid.
There is a story that Trump would impersonate his own spokes person back in the 80’s.
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/13/11670834/donald-trump-impersonate-spokesperson-john-miller-barron
No disrespect, but we heard this before for four years. It was satisfying, inspiring of hope, and even intoxicating to think that Trump really had a plan all along. Apparently, he didn't (unless you're positing that losing and getting dragged through endless legal warfare is part of that plan).
No disrespect, but I go back many years and could never imagine a raid like this or a stolen election like 2020 taking place in this country. You lack appreciation for the fact that President Trump survived in the jungle Washington has become and yes, did make this Country great as is evidenced by what we are now facing as Biden has systematically undone all the wonderful things Trump accomplished, energy independence, a win in Afghanistan, restraining Russia, China, Iran and North Korea from doing anything rash, no shortages or supply chain problems and keeping inflation low. He is now waiting for the support of people like you in order to proceed with his plans.
I found astonishing the resilience that Trump displayed for four years. I do not denigrate what he accomplished, but unfortunately--as you must admit--it was all too easily erased. This was mostly the fault of an obstructionist GOPe that refused to support the agenda on which he ran and was elected. Also unfortunately, I think it is not really arguable that Trump created his own problems via disastrous personnel selections. He may have had lousy material to work with, but in the end the buck stops at the president's desk.
Trump is not waiting for support from me. My wife and I decided to move out of CA to swing state AZ where my political effort would not be futile. I became a precinct committeeman and walked the hot summer streets knocking on doors for America First candidates in the recent primary. I served as a poll observer and will do the same in November. I still doubt that Trump's plan involved getting his teeth kicked in for six years now, but he DID serve a crucial role: he pulled the mask of the faces of the deep state and Dem regime. I'm doing what I'm doing for the same reason that millions around the country are getting involved in grass roots politics. The ephemeral nature of Trump's successes need to be bolstered with patriotic politicians, tough legislation at the state level, and wholesale cleansing of the Augean stables in D.C. Trump is necessary but nowhere near sufficient. Without a nationalist uprising manifested at all levels of politics, no proof of deep state malfeasance will advance the cause. We already know who is evil and what needs to be done. First we have to have the warriors to replace all the roadblocks.
I stand in awe of what you are doing. If you, and people like you, can get us 218 MAGA seats in Congress this November, this would be the essential first step. Most of those seats will be easy and uncontested. The borderline ones will require much effort and diligence to avoid election fraud. My point is we are now dealing with criminals who can and will be prosecuted by Trump. He has the evidence. After that we can go back to politics as usual.
Sandy Berger is a "great patriot", but for what patria? What nation? Now, or in the future? Do I get a vote on what Antony Blinken wants for America? Listening to Obama, at least he honestly said he thought we must fundamentally transform America. People could vote for that and did vote for that. Maybe?
Our political class has studied and taken to heart what Machiavelli said about rulers breaking the rules. It helps them get over any lingering doubt they may have had about lying, cheating, and stealing, that came from studying Scripture. And we're well removed from studying Scripture.
Stacey Lennox has a good article at PJ Media: "Does the FBI Always Raid Homes They Visited a Few Weeks Ago?" She writes:
"Then Guiliani shared information that makes it even more unclear why the FBI needed to raid Mar-a-Lago. “The FBI padlocked this room a few weeks ago. They just went and broke the padlock they put there.” Even more shocking, Giuliani asserted that “They [the FBI] went there a few weeks ago. They searched the whole place. They saw everything. They said it wasn’t secure enough. So they put in an additional padlock.” If the FBI secured the documents a few weeks ago, how could Trump’s handling of them in the interim necessitate a few dozen agents raiding his estate Monday?"
Read her column this morning as well. She takes apart the Newsweek article that relied on "two anonymous law enforcement sources." I was glad to see someone catch on to the FBI/DOJ/CIA script of going to a trusted media source to write up a good tale of misdirection and misinformation, e.g. the Russian Hoax. That playbook's pages are getting dog-eared.
Wow--good question.
One hand didn’t know what the other is doing? Internal war at the doj?
Who is to say what Trump has or has not done vis-a-vis docs that might implicate FBI/DOJ/CIA/etc as bad actors in the Russia conspiracy. But I would have to think even Trump would know better than to keep that stuff in his home, and if he did, to keep copies of it somewhere else as well. Remember that Giuliani was also raided (that I think was NY and not Fed, but can't recall 100%). And they also were at his residence already. If I were Trump, I'd have multiple backups secured through various untraceable connections.
Maybe Trump stored copies of docs in his ex-wife’s house. 😳
Wikileaks?
You could trust them to release it nomatter what, but doubt they'd hold it back until Trump decides it's the right time. I think what Wikileaks via DNC/Hillary emails did was journalism and defend it as such, but they are not exactly pro-US.
I'd think someone like Giuliani/other trusted close aides as cutouts and then another layer of cutout from there. Have several copies so that anything discovered can trigger releases as warranted. Make it so DOJ/FBI would have to raid thousands of potential holders of the information--the high school fling of a cutout twice removed from Trump should be just as likely to have it.
Every agency involved in illegal conspiracies has to pick up after itself. I remember when two FBI agents approached an attorney representing the estate of Jack Anderson. They wanted access to his papers; the attorney told them to take a flying leap. More of that attitude is necessary.
I read Philip Marshall's "False Flag 911"
Before that I was completely opposed to the idea that it was an inside job.
Afterwards...well, since the Saudi's evidently funded it, that makes bin Laden's involvement unnecessary.
He also argues from his experience as a pilot that the maneuvers needed to crash those big, heavy planes into those buildings (esp the Pentagon) at speeds greatly exceeding their normal operating speeds belie skills far beyond the training they were supposed to have received. But he argues that they trained in portions of the western deserts that are not covered by our air traffic control systems, which I find doubtful - they could just as easily have trained in SA. Anyway, I forced my father to read the book; he was a navy pilot and flight instructor, and while he does not accept the inside job theory, he did concede that the skills needed, once laid out in the book, must have been far greater than he had ever considered before.
So I'm firmly undecided now.
I can easily believe it of Cheney, but I have a harder time with Bush.
But when you start running it through the "who benefits from this" analysis, it is quite troubling.
Eventually, Marshall was murdered with his children, reported as a murder-suicide. But that may also have been for his revelations that he was involved as a black ops pilot in Iran-Contra. All the other pilots were later murdered, but his involvement had escaped notice...
there's been quite a bit of chatter about how one of the secondary ground zero building collapses appeared to have been a precision drop.
I'm an architect, but I just don't know enough about hi-rise demolition to opine on the question. You can find discussions and presentations on YouTube.
Read Wray's bio and then ask, Is this the guy who's likely to rush out onto a limb all by himself without a safety net underneath?
He's a fool if he doesn't have receipts.
Utterly impossible that Biden, at least, was unaware of it.
Kipling was a man who understood so much about how the world worked. I’ve come to loving him late in life, but better late than never! Thank you for sharing.