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Lawrence L.'s avatar

Turley: "Federal judges (including many appointed by then-President Trump) uniformly rejected challenges to the election [1]; the Supreme Court, with six conservative justices, repeatedly ruled against Trump — including all three of his appointees. [2]"

[1] Wrong. Rejections for standing, mootness, etc. were transparent avoidance.

[2] Wrong. They ran and hid or averted their eyes.

Turley doesn't do a bourbon neat and tell us what he really thinks because--at the end of the day--he's a coward like all the others who won't tell the truth for fear of ostracism. He has to know that both of those statements are false. He's just a CS who doesn't want to kill his sweet pundit gig.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

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@The_Real_Fly

U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan had discussions with top aides to Vladimir Putin, including Yuri Ushakov, Putin's foreign-policy adviser and Security Council secretary Nikolai Patrushev

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Steghorn21's avatar

"Truth, facts and logic". Three words distinctly absent from the Obama lexicon.

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Anne Sherman's avatar

A funny SNL sketch? Who knew they still had a sense of humor? Thanks, Mark!

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Brilliant. That has to say something about their target audience, too.

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Steghorn21's avatar

The tide is turning. Slowly. Notice how all the Covid Cult's top cheerleaders are keeping very low profiles: Fauci, Collins, Bourla, Walensky...

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perle's avatar

DeSantis endorsing the guy in Colorado—who is pledging to campaign against Trump—seems to me to have been a foolish move that undercuts DeSantis’ own credibility and doesn’t help the party. Another squish “moderate” with no convictions is not what the GOP or the country needs. " Does that refer to DeSantis or the guy from Colorado? Is it possible that Trump desires neither vindication nor vengeance, or even justice, but is acting through a sincere desire to save the country?

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Steghorn21's avatar

Trump probably does have a sincere desire to save the country. I just don't think he has the ability to save the country. If he gets back in 2024 how long before he starts wasting vast amounts of energy in sterile Twitter wars and employing creepy Deep State has-beens? I see no evidence that he has learnt anything

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Yes, but there's nothing wrong with wanting justice.

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perle's avatar

True, as long as you don't expect it to come from our present DOJ, and maybe not even the SC. How to bring the powers that be, who you so eloquently expose in all their glory so we the public can see, to a point where the will of the American people prevails is a monumental task. It would be nice if we could all just get along, but that won't work this time. A combination of Trump and the voters might just work, or maybe not, but I see no alternative.

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dissonant1's avatar

Seems pretty damning. Yet ultimately the words of his positions and promises have to come from DeSantis' mouth and he has to be judged in his actions against what he says. Where our system has worked in the past is that we had a media we thought could be counted on to ask the right questions to elicit the needed answers from our politicians. Is there anyone in the media still positioned and willing to do that? The value in presenting info like this is that now I will expect answers from DeSantis about this and I will be waiting to see who asks him the pertinent questions about this, and I will not vote for him without such answers.

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SMH's avatar

And now Ronna McDaniel says that if the Republicans take back the House and Senate that they need to work across the aisle with Joe Biden!! And she still has her job because?

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dissonant1's avatar

Because she was complicit in 2020 and Catherine Engelbrecht (who should have been given her job) is now in jail.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

What to do with Zhou is a bit of a conundrum. Don't want to do Dems any favors, but leaving him in place seems a travesty.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Leaving him in place would certainly guarantee at GOP Potus in 2024. The problem is that there probably wouldn't be a nation left for him to govern.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

That would be a problem, and it's the strongest argument for the GOP to go along with the Dems to remove him. But Kama Sutra would be just as big a problem. The real question could become, would the GOP play hardball and go for a double impeachment and installation of a GOP president (whoever's Speaker).

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SMH's avatar

You don’t mind if I hold onto the rent money do ya? :-)

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Cord The Seeker's avatar

I take no position on whether Zelensky is ungrateful, but note that sooner or later, the Biden Administration seems to quarrel with everyone.

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Yancey Ward's avatar

The Democrats will evaluate where they stand around 2 a.m. Wednesday morning- any race anywhere (House or Senate) that their candidate is less than 2% behind will be targeted for counting "late" ballots, with the DoJ and selected federal courts ordering the continued counting to "save" democracy. There will enough such Senate races for the Democrats to target and steal at least 2 new seats, and probably enough such House races to retain a bare majority.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Agreed. I've been calling it the Lucy football game once again in various comments

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DJL's avatar

While inflation and its impact on the economy has to be the most important reason to vote democrats out of office, my view is that many voters want accountability from these same democrats who locked them down, shuttered their schools resulting in two years of limited learning, picked winners and losers as to which businesses could remain open, and invoked tyrannical vaccine and facemask mandates. And while pollsters concentrate on inflation, crime, the economy, and abortion, I never saw a poll question that asked if those who lied to them during the 'pandemic' and acted like tyrants should be held accountable for their actions and how that would affect their vote.

This will be the first national election cycle where many of the culprits will face the voters and one can only hope they feel their wrath at the ballot box.

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Sarcastic Cynical Texan's avatar

Embedded link to Johnson's article doesn't work, ERROR 404.

Good link: https://sonar21.com/can-the-united-states-fight-a-two-front-war/

Note to CONgress & DOD,

Expensive does not equate to Effective as far as weapons systems are concerned, and obsolete systems are only useful for target practice or training.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Sorry. I need to get better about that. It's because I use a mouse shortcut.

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SMH's avatar

“In the meantime the House needs to defund the Dem funding of prog groups around the country and do some serious investigating and impeaching.”

I wish that I was confident that that is what will happen, but I’m just not fully convinced that the entrenched establishment lowlifes like McConnell and his supporters are going to be all in with that agenda. Those people did nothing but frustrate and outright sabotage almost everything DJT tried to do and the desires and wants of the American people be damned! ( I’m not overlooking the accomplishments that were made in the judiciary-personally think Mitch might have some regrets about that) I still remember McConnell saying he didn’t want to hear any talk about “draining the swamp!”, and from what I can gather, he pretty much has no use for Trump or his supporters. Furthermore, I think that he and a host of other establishment types are arrogant enough to think that they can still throw an administrative wrench into anything that the “new guys” try and accomplish.

I’d be more than happy to be proven wrong, and believe me, nothing would make me happier than to see these clowns get what they so richly deserve. At the end of the day, I’d love to know-with apologies to Sydney Pollack and Wilfred Brimley- “At the end of the day, gonna be two things true that ain’t true now. I’m gonna know what the hell went on and I’m gonna have somebody’s ass in my briefcase!”

Send me the bill for the briefcase!!

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Yancey Ward's avatar

You are going to see an epic battle after Tuesday night as the Democrats intend to keep counting new ballots wherever they feel they need to on Tuesday night.

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Steghorn21's avatar

I don't think it will work this time, Yancey. Not that they won't try, but I can't see the American people simply accepting a second great steal.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

What do you suggest we do?

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Steghorn21's avatar

At this point, I have no idea, Joseph. Like most people, I'm shell shocked by the last few years.

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Yancey Ward's avatar

I wouldn't have thought we would put up with it in 2020, but we did, and there is one big new advantage for doing so this time for the Democrats- they can bring in the DoJ to force the counting to continue as needed. In 2020, the DoJ just sat on its hands as the Democrats stole the election, this time they will be helping with the full force of the federal government.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

But isn't that the point? 2020 was a collaborative steal by the DC establishment--bipartisan. It won't be this time. This time is different--ha ha!

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Steghorn21's avatar

Not so sure. Maybe McConnell and McCarthy still want in.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

I’m amazed at how the eGOP sandbagged Trump on the election fraud.

The time to deal with election irregularities is before the election. After an election is too late. Trump was probably told everything was fine, and if there are any issues we will challenge it after the election.

Just like Ryan and McConnell promised Trump, just pass the tax cuts, then we will work in the rest of your agenda, like the wall. Same playbook.

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SMH's avatar

I sincerely hope that you are correct.

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Steghorn21's avatar

Fair enough. Maybe one of the larger remaining factions in the US will stand strong this time. This really can't continue.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

I’m guessing cheating will significantly impact races in these states:

- Pa

- Ny

- Michigan

- Colorado

-Wisconsin

-Or

- Wa

- Ca

I don’t know enough about Nevada, but 2020 was bad.

The question is will the GOP wave be large than the margin of cheating.

This year there are a lot more gop election observers, and a lot more challenges to election shenanigans. Ga and other some states banned Zuckerberg dollars.

I was surprised that Barr allied with Rove to challenge election irregularities. May be trying to recover their reputations?

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

I don’t think Az will allow the level of cheating needed this time.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

How dare you inject information into the discussion!

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Steghorn21's avatar

I think that's a bit generous to Z. He was elected precisely because he would seek peace with Russia and implement the Minsk agreements. He betrayed those promises. What national leader does that because another power wanted him to?

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Dave's avatar

I'd say we ask for our money back, but that would further diminish the horrific human cost.

The US/UK "investment" in this proxy war spanned at least 8 years resulting in the largest proxy army in history, where it was effectively dismembered in the first 2 weeks.

How is that a 'bargain'?

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Mark Wauck's avatar

While it's a valid point, you left out the cost of replacing the destroyed (or worn out) equipment and munitions. Worn out might have been a factor in Afghan/Iraq, but destroyed becomes a much bigger factor against Russia.

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