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ML's avatar

Very revealing and fascinating conversation, as well as the reference to Amanda’s book. The other day, the soft-spoken Matt Hoh put it this way, but now we know what “greases” the wheels: “ Israel is “us” over there; Israel is the West in the Middle East.” What a diabolical mess. Now we know why GWB, the oil man, was chosen to up the ante and invade Iraq.

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Eoin Clancy's avatar

Gaza is the ultimate goal for Israel. They are going to keep the Lebanese sideshow going for as long as possible while they clear Gaza.

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Amanda R's avatar

https://thecradle.co/articles-id/27227

Don't know if anyone has seen this - another documentary concerning Israel where the current finance minister states it is in public discourse that Israel will extend to Damascus. I've seen clips - he is clearly insane.

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dissonant1's avatar

Thank you (and Amanda R.) for all the dot connecting!

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Amanda R's avatar

You're welcome - but thanks most of all to Mark for elucidating the big picture so eloquently. This is a post I am going to keep to hand - it's that valuable.

Also - the magnetic poles are flipping apparently..

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Richard C. Cook's avatar

Thank you for this fine reporting.

My ME contacts are telling me the IDF is being crushed on the ground along the Israel-Lebanese border.

Also, those who (used to?) believe in such things as the Iron Dome are not sufficiently aware of the huge costs of missile defense and the difficulty in protecting against waves of missiles including decoys. It's a subset of the fine art of escalation management which the Russians have learned in Ukraine, which the North Koreans are implementing, and which Hezbollah practices spectacularly.

The consensus is growing that Israel's days are numbered. Even they are starting to believe it.

Please also see this:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/world-war-iii-is-on-but-the-empire-has-already-lost-an-american-civil-war-looms-spiritual-transformation-is-the-only-way-to-prevent-extinction/5868285

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

A lot of Middle East US policies seem to help Israel. Shah was putting out feelers to Iraq, and immediately gets deposed. Then a war between Iran and Iraq starts up. Who benefits? I thought it was like Cuba, US wishful thinking ended up with a disastrous leadership choice.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/10/the_iranian_mullah_s_mysterious_longevity_may_reflect_secret_us_support.html

Lots of Israeli oil seems to be coming from Kurdistan thru Turkey to Israel.

And I would not be surprised if oil from Syria being smuggled thru Turkey ends up in Israel. For a while it was from Al Queda, then the U.S. / Kurds took over the major oil producing areas.

Article from 2015:

https://m.jpost.com/Business-and-Innovation/Israel-importing-77-percent-of-its-oil-from-Iraqi-Kurdistan-report-says-413056

Both probably enriching the Erdogen family.

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dissonant1's avatar

Erdogan has been regularly renouncing Israel and has taken a number of actions against it:

https://www.juancole.com/2024/08/denounces-threatens-intervention.html

That aside the Turkish response to the oil transit issue is as follows:

https://www.intellinews.com/palestinians-face-deportation-from-turkey-for-erdogan-stop-feeding-oil-to-zionists-banner-344816/

Someone skeptical might say there is money involved for those in power.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Iran's Foreign Minister Araghchi:

"We are fully prepared for a war situation and we are not afraid of war"

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Antipodes's avatar

way way back before the 1st invasion of Iraq, Antipodes was a high school student sitting in our Geography class. Our teacher was insistent that the upcoming invasion was all about "our oil". Our being the USA.

Now this was in Australia, in a standard country town in a largely farming based economy.

And our Geography Teacher saw it, taught it and hoped we understood it.

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Amanda R's avatar

Good teacher Antipodes had....a rare thing.

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Mike richards's avatar

The truth will out - it’s never about ‘our soil’, but rather ‘our oil’.

Similarly, ‘Our democracy’ is the verbiage of a villain.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/you-know-its-bad-kamala-when

They're bringing in Clinton and Barry. Sounds like they know it's critical.

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ML's avatar

Hell hath no furry like a Barry scorned. What? You mean He won’t get his third - oops! - fourth term in office? Castigating and scolding again - a winning strategy!

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Mark Wauck's avatar

"The military is investigating why no sirens were activated and why no interception occurred."

Need better AD? Started something that can't be easily controlled?

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Mike richards's avatar

THAAD deployed…. THUD! destroyed?

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dissonant1's avatar

FreeFrench, that's actually quite amazing (at least to someone of my vintage)! For most of my life, the Right in the U.S. argued that America's wars were about fighting for democracy and the Left argued that they were about resources, greed, and power. When did that all change? It's almost like the earth's magnetic poles inverting. I'm getting too old to keep up with all of this stuff!

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