Tom Luongo has put out an essay in which he argues against the notion that the Nordstream sabotage was ultimately a means to cement American hegemony over Europe. His bottom line: this was a Davos-Brussels inspired move to pit the Americans against the Russians, and the European population against America, in order to further European hegemonic designs.
This interpretation offers a plausible alternative explanation for why European “elites” have been so willing to doom their people and their economies to a “death spiral.” Create a catastrophe that most Europeans will blame on the Russians, or the Americans, or both. Then ride in to the rescue with Davos’ neo-communist regime—centralized political authority, a totalitarian CBDC, a utopian “green revolution,” etc.
I’m not entirely convinced, but neither am I willing to dismiss the idea out of hand. What Luongo HAS convinced me of is that developments over the past 6+ years are the product of “wheels within wheels”— that is, nothing is as simple as it seems.
Forgot to add that I am intrigued by Luongo’s notion that the REAL culprits basically goaded the neo-cons into doing their bidding by knocking out NS nad NS2. His portrayal of the neo-cons is delicious: always slavering after an excuse to bomb something.
I am far beyond sick and tired of the United States sticking our national nose into every other countries' business. Especially when we are in the process of societal self destruction !
I always find Michael Anton to be provocative in the best sense. He clears away so much of the pablum and dross that lulls many of us who call ourselves conservative to sleep. In that spirit, I recommend the recent debate between Anton and Patrick Deneen (someone else I find helpfully provocative) about whether we need to “return to the founders” in order to rescue America.
Clicked through to comment just this. It's a global market, prices will go up for everybody.
Will the administration reverse their "green" domestic petroleum production control policy just so we can send some tankers of super-premium LNG to our NATO "allies"?
The "not even trying to hide it anymore" is the most-disconcerting aspect in all of this. As has long been clear, these folks REALLY intend to win at all costs or take everyone down with them.
Never been clearer. Now we get to see who's willfully blind. Soon enough I expect we will see who has eyes but no balls: a much larger group, sorry to say.
I don’t think that there is any question that we are getting close to critical mass, this madness can’t go on indefinitely. Not sure what form it will take, but I’m pretty sure we’ll all know when it happens.
"Washington can now step in as Europe’s top supplier of LNG, the Biden administration explained." We are re-starting Trump's energy independence program that Biden shut down on day one?
I hate that the US people are being lumped in with the friggin interagency. Considering that the interagency includes the WEF and all those high brow Euro-types as well as our own elite who know best what is good for the world (gooder and harder) we normies are just pawns to use for funding their glorious dreams of wrecking the world. I for one disavow all of this.
The cause for the over the top hatred of Trump and MAGA becomes clearer by the day.
Russia actually benefits, because now it’s not their fault that no gas is flowing. And the US and their allies are probably going to be blamed by the European people.
My bet is the US or UK were responsible. Or perhaps Ukrainians trained and equipped by the UK, so there is plausible deniability.
The US / nato has that area wired for sound, so they know who is responsible.
Maintenance I could believe if one pipeline, but both means it’s deliberate.
Hard to say with a straight face that it wasn't the US after seeing all that.
I don't see any benefit for Russia. They lost leverage over EU countries to stop the sanctions. They built that pipeline to sell gas: nothing can force them to NOT sell gas that way if they don't want to. Now they have fewer options. Seems very straightforward to me.
Plus, despite everything, in the longer run, Russia wants to sell gas to Europe. Russia may be weathering the sanctions quite well, but the loss of the European market will hurt their bottom line for years to come. New pipelines to replacement markets won’t be built over night. I get that the Russians have taken advantage of every excuse to slow gas deliveries to Europe, but would they paint themselves into a corner and preclude resuming gas deliveries to Europe “indefinitely?” I don’t think so.
So I guess if these idiots keep mucking around long enough they’ll finally get the war that they’re hellbent on starting!
I sit here and watch events unfolding and keep asking myself, “Are these people really that stupid?” and the unavoidable answer is always the same, “Yes, they are….”
The anecdotal and circumstantial evidence is pretty damning at this point, so I wonder how pissed off the umpteen million Europeans who are going to be forced to deal with the consequences of this little neo-con scheme are going to be when the evidence becomes incontrovertible? Of course, I’m sure that it will be “completely unexpected”.
William Buckley was right to suggest that we’d be better off being ruled by the first 300 names in the Boston phone book than by these ridiculous clowns.
Good Larry Johnson article:
ANTHONY BLINKEN’S “TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY” AIN’T GOOD NEWS FOR GERMANY AND THE UNITED KINGDOM
https://sonar21.com/anthony-blinkens-tremendous-opportunity-aint-good-news-for-germany-and-the-united-kingdom/
Tom Luongo has put out an essay in which he argues against the notion that the Nordstream sabotage was ultimately a means to cement American hegemony over Europe. His bottom line: this was a Davos-Brussels inspired move to pit the Americans against the Russians, and the European population against America, in order to further European hegemonic designs.
This interpretation offers a plausible alternative explanation for why European “elites” have been so willing to doom their people and their economies to a “death spiral.” Create a catastrophe that most Europeans will blame on the Russians, or the Americans, or both. Then ride in to the rescue with Davos’ neo-communist regime—centralized political authority, a totalitarian CBDC, a utopian “green revolution,” etc.
I’m not entirely convinced, but neither am I willing to dismiss the idea out of hand. What Luongo HAS convinced me of is that developments over the past 6+ years are the product of “wheels within wheels”— that is, nothing is as simple as it seems.
https://tomluongo.me/2022/09/29/the-curious-whodunit-of-nordstreams-1-and-2/
Forgot to add that I am intrigued by Luongo’s notion that the REAL culprits basically goaded the neo-cons into doing their bidding by knocking out NS nad NS2. His portrayal of the neo-cons is delicious: always slavering after an excuse to bomb something.
Globalists + NeoCons = Insanity
I am far beyond sick and tired of the United States sticking our national nose into every other countries' business. Especially when we are in the process of societal self destruction !
Somewhat off topic, Michael Anton wrote:
https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/26/what-does-fidelity-to-our-founding-principles-require-today/
AND Denninger has ideas re. the NIH:
https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=247079
I always find Michael Anton to be provocative in the best sense. He clears away so much of the pablum and dross that lulls many of us who call ourselves conservative to sleep. In that spirit, I recommend the recent debate between Anton and Patrick Deneen (someone else I find helpfully provocative) about whether we need to “return to the founders” in order to rescue America.
https://youtu.be/D1iEVGNijs8
And American consumers get to pay more for gas too. These aholes are nuts.
Clicked through to comment just this. It's a global market, prices will go up for everybody.
Will the administration reverse their "green" domestic petroleum production control policy just so we can send some tankers of super-premium LNG to our NATO "allies"?
The "not even trying to hide it anymore" is the most-disconcerting aspect in all of this. As has long been clear, these folks REALLY intend to win at all costs or take everyone down with them.
Never been clearer. Now we get to see who's willfully blind. Soon enough I expect we will see who has eyes but no balls: a much larger group, sorry to say.
I don’t think that there is any question that we are getting close to critical mass, this madness can’t go on indefinitely. Not sure what form it will take, but I’m pretty sure we’ll all know when it happens.
All of us except Joe Biden that is.
"Washington can now step in as Europe’s top supplier of LNG, the Biden administration explained." We are re-starting Trump's energy independence program that Biden shut down on day one?
I hate that the US people are being lumped in with the friggin interagency. Considering that the interagency includes the WEF and all those high brow Euro-types as well as our own elite who know best what is good for the world (gooder and harder) we normies are just pawns to use for funding their glorious dreams of wrecking the world. I for one disavow all of this.
The cause for the over the top hatred of Trump and MAGA becomes clearer by the day.
Russia actually benefits, because now it’s not their fault that no gas is flowing. And the US and their allies are probably going to be blamed by the European people.
My bet is the US or UK were responsible. Or perhaps Ukrainians trained and equipped by the UK, so there is plausible deniability.
The US / nato has that area wired for sound, so they know who is responsible.
Maintenance I could believe if one pipeline, but both means it’s deliberate.
There is no question anywhere that it's deliberate. Did you miss the monkeywerx breakdown of public data on the incident?
https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/the-nord-stream-2-pipeline-sabotage
Hard to say with a straight face that it wasn't the US after seeing all that.
I don't see any benefit for Russia. They lost leverage over EU countries to stop the sanctions. They built that pipeline to sell gas: nothing can force them to NOT sell gas that way if they don't want to. Now they have fewer options. Seems very straightforward to me.
Plus, despite everything, in the longer run, Russia wants to sell gas to Europe. Russia may be weathering the sanctions quite well, but the loss of the European market will hurt their bottom line for years to come. New pipelines to replacement markets won’t be built over night. I get that the Russians have taken advantage of every excuse to slow gas deliveries to Europe, but would they paint themselves into a corner and preclude resuming gas deliveries to Europe “indefinitely?” I don’t think so.
Agreed. You always want to keep all options open.
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html
Very interesting! 17 hours apart. Hmm.
So I guess if these idiots keep mucking around long enough they’ll finally get the war that they’re hellbent on starting!
I sit here and watch events unfolding and keep asking myself, “Are these people really that stupid?” and the unavoidable answer is always the same, “Yes, they are….”
The anecdotal and circumstantial evidence is pretty damning at this point, so I wonder how pissed off the umpteen million Europeans who are going to be forced to deal with the consequences of this little neo-con scheme are going to be when the evidence becomes incontrovertible? Of course, I’m sure that it will be “completely unexpected”.
William Buckley was right to suggest that we’d be better off being ruled by the first 300 names in the Boston phone book than by these ridiculous clowns.
I mean, couldn't you say more or less exactly the same about the US population and our "leaders"? A slower crushing is all the difference I see.